5830 vs GTX 460!

[squallypie]

Hey!

Now, as the gtx 460 is out, the 5830 has finally got a suitable competitor... now as far as i can see, the 5830 is losing to the 460 1GB both in terms of performance ( raw fps or PCMark ) and power consumption + temperature... but for this, its 30$ cheaper now. But it also has eyefinity... so the lower price and the eyefinity really lures me towards the 5830, but if i sli 2 460s, can i be able to hook up 3 monitors just like they ran on eyefinity?

Thanks!

 

[Griffolion]

You may as well wait a few months if you're edging towards the 5830 as prices will drop soon. I'd say go for the 460 as it outperfored/competed heavily with the 5830 in almost all games at normal resolutions (normal being 1080 thereabouts), has physx and cuda. If you get 2 in SLI, you'll be getting performance levels surpassing the 480 (and thus only bested by the 5970). Just make sure your PSU can support it.

I think there was a thread about this done already? Check next time, thanks.

 

[Mousemonkey]

but if i sli 2 460s, can i be able to hook up 3 monitors just like they ran on eyefinity?

Yes.

 

[jyjjy]

If the price is a concern go for the 192/768 version of the GTX 460. Same price as the HD5830 and still significantly better.

 

[jyjjy]

Avoid the 5830 like the Plague. Had one.. No voltage control, drivers sucked. Not worth it.

The GTX 460 is a better deal at that price point but just because you didn't research your card before hand to find out whether it had voltage control doesn't mean everyone else should avoid it

 

[OvrClkr]

Avoid the 5830 like the Plague. Had one.. No voltage control, drivers sucked. Not worth it.

should be easy for you to say since you went from a single 5830 to quad 470's [:jaydeejohn:4]

just like when I upgraded from a x1600 to SLI 8800GTX 's :lol:

 

[jyjjy]

3 HD5830s... interesting choice. Why not go for 2 HD5850s instead?

Also when recommending the GTX 460 keep in mind not all of them have voltage control either from what notty was saying in another thread. Anyone have any idea which do and which don't? The MSI card says it on the box and I would assume the ASUS card does but I have no idea about the others.

 

[OvrClkr]

If only that were the case ovr. I had 3 5830's in Trifire. Each one was different. One overclocked to 985c, One to 925c, the last could only do 850c. I returned them all newegg and got a full refund thank god. I simply claimed false advertising because newegg had originally advertised them as having voltage control when they didn't.

They didn't perform THAT BAD in Trifire

http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww252/2MCHBoost/trifireupdated.png

Let me guess Sapphire? lolz

Anyways TRI-5830's is around 750.00$ (back when you purchased them) give or take, that's way too much money for cards that do not have voltage control.

With your current set-up you won't need anymore cards, hopefully :lol:

 

[squallypie]

Thankyou so much for all the replies ( mousemonkey especially for clearin the sli question )!! gtx 460s all the way???

 

[Bluescreendeath]

GTX460s scales very nicely in SLi. Their performance falls between the 5830 and the 5850, making them great bang for the buck.

 

[OvrClkr]

Asus and MSI have Voltage control



YESSSSSS



I WISH it was that cheap bro. With overnight shipping it was around like 810. :lol:

If i could Quad the 460's i would simply sell off the 470's in a heartbeat.

why DOWNGRADE???

you think you can get more OC threshold and lower temps with QUAD 460's?

 

[OvrClkr]

So NV is not going to release a 460 that is QUAD SLI'able ?

 

[iam2thecrowe]

unless you play a lot of crysis, in which case the 5830 seems to be a bit faster - as per the tomshardware 460 review

 

[notty22]

Read a review , where they tested the 800mhz card. This is what any enthusiast is going to be running the 460 or higher. Yes o/c is cheating VS stock cards, but hey !
http://www.techspot.com/review/299-palit-inno3d-geforce-gtx-460/page12.html

 

[OvrClkr]

Hardware Canucks and Anand are the only real review's you need to read. Much love for you tom's but don't really care for your testing methods.

I disagree but hey!

problem with Canucks and Anand is the fact that they do not really test the AMD cards to the fullest. For example they love to test anything new that NV puts out and they praise it like no other but when its time to Max out a 5xxx series card and re-test with NV's same hardware they just back off and refuse to test the cards "mano a mano". They will test a nice 480 with some nice voltage tweaks against a HIS 5870 with no voltage control. Kinda unfair if you ask me

Here is a nice example :

Canucks claims that my card gets 49FPS high/ 34FPS low

I tested this game at the exact same settings and I got around 64FPS high / 42FPS low (stock clocks 725/1000) with an x4 @ 3.8Ghz which is actually slower than what they were using

@ 1000/1275 I get over 80FPS, sometimes it can even hit 100FPS!!! Why doesn't Canucks show my outcome? Why can't these tests have the AMD GPU's OC'ed at around the same % as the NV cards just for the hell of it?

Canucks also says that the 460 falls short to the 5830 and 465 in Metro2033 with tes enabled.. you are going to tell me that a 5830 does better in tes than a 460 1Gb?

[:digitalprospecter:4]

 

[notty22]

Here OC, show them all this, http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd5850.html
Hidden Threat !

 

[OvrClkr]

I am going to make this even worse for Canucks, the above chart shows 4xAA... Well my test was done with 8xAA, basically maxing out the AA for BC2.

http://s683.photobucket.com/albums/vv199/OvrClkr/?action=view&current=SANY0174-1.mp4

@ OP sorry for the semi-hijack

 

[OvrClkr]

Hey!

Now, as the gtx 460 is out, the 5830 has finally got a suitable competitor... now as far as i can see, the 5830 is losing to the 460 1GB both in terms of performance ( raw fps or PCMark ) and power consumption + temperature... but for this, its 30$ cheaper now. But it also has eyefinity... so the lower price and the eyefinity really lures me towards the 5830, but if i sli 2 460s, can i be able to hook up 3 monitors just like they ran on eyefinity?

Thanks!

Mousemonkey already answered your question I believe

A single 5830 is not going to get you the best Eye-Finity experience unless you are using small monitors with low resolutions. On the other hand dual 460's will, it's basically faster than a single 480 in all aspects. Hope this helps

 

[squallypie]

wow thank you for the inputsssssss so all those charts were misleadin? -.- btw one more question, GTX 260 1GB < 5850 right?
Will the 5850 drop to 250$ range any time sooooon?

 

[squallypie]

GTX 460 OOPS! ( i always make this mistake... dunno why )

 

[jyjjy]

Yes, the HD5850 is about 15% faster. I do suspect we will see the HD5850 come down to it's launch price within the next few months($260).

 

[OvrClkr]

you can get a 5850 right now at around 265.00$ with Bing Cash Back =)

 

[jomofro39]

Get two 460's. Only 100 bucks more than a 5850 right now. That is my thought process anyway. Or wait until it drops in price and get the 5850. Two 460's will whoop the pants off of a 5850. And if you OC the 460's then even better. Anyone know of a CF 5850 setup benched against SLi'd 460's? Or any SLi' 460 benches for that matter?

 

[notty22]

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_460_SLI/25.html

 

[jyjjy]

Fourth actually. SLIed GTX 460s aren't a "card."