Budget gaming system - amd x4 965

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AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
SAPPHIRE 100283-3L Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard
Combo $404.97 (not including $35 mail in rebates).

SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply $69.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL $94.99

Rosewill DESTROYER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ,comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan,
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Combo $79.98

SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model SH-S222L LightScribe Support $17.99

Total cost is 667.92. I have a monitor/speakers/keyboard/mouse already. Not sure if I'm going to get windows 7 or keep using the XP I own now. This is primarily for gaming, WoW, Starcraft 2, Civ5 when it comes out, Dragon Age.

My thoughts are, AMD helps me keep the cost down, not planning to overclock though so I'm not sure if paying extra for the 965 vs the 945 or 955 is worth it.

Also I'm not very familar with mobos, other than I built my last computer with an Asus and have had no issues.

The graphics card seems like the best bang for the buck. Going to an HD 5850 is like $100 more and I want to keep the entire system close to under 700.

Basically I built my last computer 4 years ago, an AMD X2 1.8ghz with an ATI X1900XT 512mb and it's lasted me this long. I'm hoping to get similar longevity out of this computer while keeping the price low.
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  1. If you see anywhere I could reasonable cut some costs, please let me know, or anything that might not be compatible or areas where it'd be worth extra to upgrade.
  2. Win 7 noms XP.

    965 is a bad value, the 955 is basically the same thing but 20$ cheaper, while the 1055t is 50% more cores and turbo for ~15$ more.

    Mobo is 700 series chipset, which probably isn't getting bulldozer compatability. The GTX 460@230 is better than the 5770, while the GTX 470 @280$ is an even better deal yet. Depends on what your resolution is.
  3. I have a 22in samsung lcd. Max res 1650 x 1080. I'm not sure if that's limited by my monitor or gpu right now though.

    So you don't think the 965 is worth 20$ more for 200mhz faster stock? I did look into the 1055t but I thought the 965 would get better performance with the higher ghz and seeing as most apps don't utilize 6 cores. Although you're right, for longevity the 6 cores might be worth the purchase.

    A gtx 460 is about 65$ more than the hd 5770 I have selected. Going to put me over budget, unless there's somewhere else I can shave a few bucks off. I will consider it though. Do you think dropping down to the 955 and spending more on the graphics card would be a better move?
  4. If you're just gaming, the 955 is your best bet. 6 cores is not worth it right now for most games on the market. By the time most games are able to use 4 cores or more, it'll be a couple of chip generations down the line. The 1055T is especially not worth it if you're not planning to overclock, as it's slower than either the 955 or the 965.

    The 5770 will be fine, depending on your resolution and what games you like to play. It's not going to play all modern games on ultra/high settings at 1920x1080, but it will do fine at 1680x1050, or with lowered settings at higher resolutions.

    For about $20 more, you could get this Gigabyte UD3H that has native USB 3.0 & SATA 6.0 Gb/s support, along with the ability to CrossFire, if you ever decide you'd rather add another 5770 instead of upgrading your graphics card. Alternatively, this ASRock 890GM is $1 less than your motherboard, and has USB 3.0 & SATA 6.0 Gb/s, but no CrossFire.
  5. I really don't know much about mobos, what currently uses usb 3.0?

    What is SATA 6.0 Gb/s support?

    Unfortunately a lot of the stuff I posted was combo prices, so just swapping out a mobo like that is going to raise the price more than the $20 difference between the two mobos. But I did find this:


    A X4 955 with an ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO AM3 AMD 785G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard combo. I could buy the same graphics card I listed, the sapphire hd 5770 and save about $35, basically just downgrading the cpu for $35, since everyone seems to think the 965 is not worth it over the 955.
  6. USB 3.0 and SATA 6.0 Gb/s are the new standards for USB and SATA.

    There are some devices on the market for USB 3.0 already, I expect it to replace USB 2.0 in the next couple of years. SATA 6.0 Gb/s is not likely to be as widely used, as currently there is only one SSD that needs it, and no mechanical hard drives that hit those speeds. Eventually it may be the new standard for disk connectivity, but it's not nearly as important in the near future.

    Neither of them are truly necessary, as you can buy a PCI card to add on later, but if it's not pushing you over your budget, I'd say that at least USB 3.0 is worthwhile.
  7. $659AR
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