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August 18, 2010 7:26:42 PM

There are a lot of parts to choose from and I need some help. I also plan to SLI in the future.

Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 460 1GB (One at first and then a second in the future)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I am having trouble deciding what Motherboard to get.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LITE-ON Black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 (If needed)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Can this build play most games on high settings? Will it still be a strong PC in the future? I really don't want to have to upgrade for a while (other than adding a second graphics card) I plan on playing Stracraft 2,all STALKER games, Diablo 3, RAGE.

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August 18, 2010 8:19:16 PM

I'd highly HIGHLY reccomend the MSI cyclone gtx460. The thing runs ice cold... I have my overclcoked to 800/1600/4000 and the thing has never even gotten up to 60degree under full load.

You dont need a heatsink if you arent going to overclock. THe stock heatsink is fine at normal speeds.

If you're going to buy a heatsink, pickup the coolermaster v8. I haave my amd 955 overclocked 25% with the V8, and it hasnt crossed 55c yet under long periods of gaming.

The 650 would be fine for SLI'd 460's, but for $20 bucks get the extra 100wat just for peace of mind.

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August 18, 2010 11:03:20 PM

I've heard a lot of great things about the Gigabyte GTX 460 too though. I think I might just stick with Gigabyte but I will look into the MSI.
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August 18, 2010 11:28:41 PM

hello. make sure you use corsairs power supply thingy on their front page: http://www.corsair.com/ i think a 750- 850 watt would be best for you, for when you get two 460.

for the mother board I would get the asus that has the newest sata and usb. it looks like a good mother board and has space between the pci-e slots so it will keep them cool. if you do decide to get a evga one, make sure it is the ftw. the sli one doesn't have spacing between the video cards(i got the sli one and wish i had got the ftw).

as for case that is up to you, i would get something with good cable management and good air flow.

the hard drive looks good but I would consider http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... it is faster than the one you picked but also cost more

for memory I would def get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... same speed as the one you picked but tighter timings

for heatsink I would read the following web site http://www.frostytech.com/ this is a heatsink i would consider http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... only bad thing i hear about it is it is loud

for your video card, the one you picked is good.
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August 18, 2010 11:46:34 PM

Which motherboard has the newest sata, usp, and has space between the pci-e slots?

Also, does it matter if the pci-e is only x8/x8? Should I get a motherboard that is x16/x16? If so which one?
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August 19, 2010 12:08:22 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

i'm not sure it will matter either way or not. cause when you get sli you may lose your sata 6gb anyway, not like it matters. harddrives don't even use the bandwidth of a sata 3gb. only reason that harddrive i picked would be faster is cause it has 64 cach but.. i'm not sure you would even notice a difference, so prob just stick with the samsung

you can stick with 8x 8x cause it makes very little differences if you're running 8x and not 16x. see http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pcie-geforce-gtx-48...

added: only reason to get a 1366 chipset vs a 1156 is if you plan on getting 3-4 sli
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August 19, 2010 12:24:20 AM

So I will be fine with that motherboard, the intel i5 750, and 2 GTX 460s?

Also, is 4GBs of ram enough?

If I buy this build, how long do you think it will be before I have to upgrade?
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August 19, 2010 12:45:35 AM

yea, that asus motherboard will be good. I think 4 GB of ram should be enough with windows 7. 4 GB helps you get better overclock too cause you use less voltage overclocking compared to 8GB (don't ask me why, I forgot). you shouldn't have to upgrade again for 2-3 years, maybe longer if you don't want to. really the toughest decision will be getting the heatsink.. it is for me most of the time.
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August 19, 2010 12:59:02 AM

I pretty much know nothing about heatsinks. Are they what people call after market coolers? What should I know about them? Sorry if these are stupid questions.
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August 19, 2010 2:03:58 AM

Yep, aftermarket coolers = heatsinks = CPU coolers = etc. Basically, an aftermarket heatsink will give you better processor cooling, allowing you to overclock it without heating up too much. There are a few nice CPU cooler roundups if you google that - it'll give you a starting point. I'd recommend the Scythe Mugen - cheap and it works great!
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August 19, 2010 3:11:29 AM

So far, I think I know my final build but there are a few more things.

For the cooler, would this be a good one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also, for the RAM, is the one posted in the OP good enough? A lot of variations of that RAM have been recommended and I have no idea which is the best.

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August 19, 2010 5:42:24 PM

I don't really know much about coolers. Which one of those are the best?
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August 19, 2010 5:46:53 PM

The 212 is a very good cooler for the price, I saw it somewhere for 30 bucks but I dont remember where.
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August 19, 2010 7:47:09 PM

The megahalems are definitely one of the best CPU coolers out there. Just make sure you buy a fan or two (120mm) to mount on it (I don't think it comes with one). I'd go for the HAF 922 if you like that look then, you don't really need the full tower (932) for anything at all. The mid tower one has plenty of room for everything.
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August 19, 2010 9:10:07 PM

Perfect - Scythe makes horribly ugly boxes and packaging, but some of the best fans and things.
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August 19, 2010 10:07:40 PM

I was reading the features for the Megahalems, and it said "Includes easy-to-apply high grade thermal compound, a perfect sidekick to all Prolimatech heatsinks."
and "New Universal Backplate to support all Intel platforms."

So I don't need to buy arctic silver or an after market backing plate for the motherboard?
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August 19, 2010 10:52:06 PM

Nope it should come with everything that you need - just not any fans...
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August 20, 2010 12:48:48 AM

A lot of things I've read have said that it is best to have the most recent drivers. What are those related to and does this setup have them?

I also am questioning whether or not I should overclock the GPUs. I don't want to void any warranties for those. Plus I don't know how to overclock. Which makes me think 2 of these would be better.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Then I could just overclock the CPU which I don't know how to do. But that seems like a better plan.

Also, in the features for the GPUs. It says PCI Express 2.0 x16. While my motherboard's would be single at x16 or dual at x8 / x8. Will 2 cards fit on the motherboard? Sorry if I am asking so many questions.
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August 20, 2010 5:26:27 AM

Drivers - you'll be fine. Basically - after you install Windows you'll install the drivers that came with your motherboard on a disc. You can get your video card drivers off of the nVidia website (they are usually newer than the ones on the disc that comes with a card). Windows should pick up the rest automatically.

Buying pre-overclocked GPUs is one easy way to do it. If you're scared to do it yourself, those Galaxy ones are quite nice. I've seen them in SLI vs some 5870s in Crossfire, and at higher resolutions those 460s actually win...
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/08/09/geforce_gtx_4...

Overclocking the CPU is fairly easy - google guides for your i5 and you'll find a lot. Just start small though. Once you've got everything built, I think there is an overclocking forum that you can check out here.

Your motherboard, and most 1156 ones, will support x8, x8 only. Higher end 1366 socket systems (like the i7 930 uses) have more PCI-E lanes, and can then run 2 cards at x16 x16. Your cards will fit for sure - don't worry about that. The x8 just means that each graphics card slow does not have quite as much bandwidth readily available to it. Even with GTX 480s in x8 slots, there is barely any difference. Don't worry about it at all. I've played around with my systems and can't tell the difference between x8 and x16 performance.
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August 20, 2010 7:53:34 PM

Thank you so much for all your help. I think I got everything I needed out of this thread. There is just one more question though.

Will the Corsair 750w psu be enough for everything? Since I am now getting the 2 super OC gtx 460s and will eventually OC the CPU.

I also think I might dish out the cash for the Antec Twelve Hundred Case. I know I probably don't need it, but I really like it and it seems to have great airflow and cooling.
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August 20, 2010 8:06:47 PM

The 1200 just has the one extra fan on the front, and more room inside the case. It's a great case, but is a bit big...

And as for the 750w Corsair, definitely. Even a 650w Corsair would do the trick - those 460s don't actually draw too much power, even with some juicy overclocks.
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August 20, 2010 9:43:51 PM

I am pretty much satisfied with every part, but I am a little concerned about the ram. Don't you think 6gb might be better for the future? I know it's been said that 4gb is enough, but I was just wondering.

And for what I hope is the last question, how well will this PC run games? What settings can it run SC2, stalker, crysis, RAGE + Diablo 3(I don't think there is much info for both though) Will it run the games close to high with good fps? Because I don't want to spend so much on this PC just to see it barely running some of these.
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August 20, 2010 9:48:13 PM

Here's a comparison of various graphics cards playing SC2 at various settings & resolutions. Since I haven't been following the thread, I'm unsure what your build looks like at the moment.

SC2 isn't all that demanding though, assuming you have a modern processor and an ATI 5770 (or better) graphics card.

If you've still got an i5-750/760 or an AMD CPU, there's really no reason to get more than 4 GB of RAM. If you're really concerned about it, get 8 GB. Going with 6 GB would force you back to single-channel mode, which would result in a slight drop in performance. RAM is pretty much the easiest thing to add after the fact, so my recommendation would be to get 4 GB to start, and if you find that you really need more, upgrade later.
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August 21, 2010 12:57:32 AM

Any other answers for my last post? How will I do with those games?

Edit: never mind. I think I have been over estimating some of these games. Just concerned about Crysis
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August 23, 2010 9:50:26 PM

With 2 460s, that processor, and 4gb of RAM - you should be doing just fine in Crysis, and any other new game that you can find @ 1080p or higher.
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