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Can I Run GTA4?

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July 15, 2010 11:32:20 PM

I went to the "Can You Run It" site and got the following results:

CPU
Minimum: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8GHz, AMD Athlon X2 64 2.4GHz
You Have: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor
PASS

CPU Speed
Minimum: 1.8 GHz
You Have: 2.71 GHz Performance Rated at: 5.2845 GHz
PASS

RAM
Minimum: 1 GB for Windows XP / 1.5 GB for Windows Vista)
You Have: 3.9 GB
PASS

OS
Minimum: Windows Vista - Service Pack 1 / XP - Service Pack 3 / Windows 7
You Have: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition (build 7600), 64-bit
PASS

Sound Card
Minimum: Yes
You Have: Realtek High Definition Audio
PASS

Free Disk Space
Minimum: 16 GB
You Have: 425.0 GB
PASS

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The only one that failed was:

Video Card
Minimum: 256MB NVIDIA 7900+ / 256MB ATI X1900+
You Have: GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
Upgrade Suggested: Unfortunately, your Video Card does not meet this requirement.


Why would I need a specific graphics card? In detail (listed below) it says my graphics card meets all the requirements but it failed because I need a specific card?

Features: Minimum attributes of your Video Card
-------------------------------Required----You Have
Video RAM-------------------256 MB------1.8 GB
3D------------------------------ Yes-------- Yes
Hardware T&L --------------- Yes -------- Yes
Pixel Shader version---------3.0----------3.0
Vertex Shader version-------3.0----------3.0


So by the looks of it, the site failed me because they didn't add my specific card details? I'm just asking here cause I want to be sure.

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a b U Graphics card
July 15, 2010 11:36:59 PM

The GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 is an integrated graphics chip - you basically don't have a graphics card. You'll need one to play GTA4.

Also, you'll need to OC your dual core a bit since the PC version of GTA4 is a CPU-black hole (and you really won't get above 40fps unless you have a quad).
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July 15, 2010 11:51:32 PM

Bluescreendeath said:
The GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 is an integrated graphics chip - you basically don't have a graphics card. You'll need one to play GTA4.

Also, you'll need to OC your dual core a bit since the PC version of GTA4 is a CPU-black hole (and you really won't get above 40fps unless you have a quad).


What does that mean? OC my dual core? and how much would all this cost?
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a b U Graphics card
July 16, 2010 12:04:34 AM

1. You will need to buy an actual graphics card.

2. OC = overclock. If your motherboard allows it, it lets you increase the speed of the CPU for free.
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July 16, 2010 5:05:39 AM

are you sure it's not possible at all to play GTA4 on my computer?
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a c 153 U Graphics card
July 16, 2010 5:11:06 AM

Yes, you need a real graphics card.
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a b U Graphics card
July 16, 2010 5:16:38 AM

The 6150 can't even play HL2 (or any source games), it's outdated even for intergrated graphics (which are horrible), in short you cannot play GTA IV, or any modern game.
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July 16, 2010 5:17:44 AM

sabot00 said:
The 6150 can't even play HL2 (or any source games), it's outdated even for intergrated graphics (which are horrible), in short you cannot play GTA IV, or any modern game.


How's that true if it's a brand new 2010 windows 7 computer?
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a c 153 U Graphics card
July 16, 2010 5:22:35 AM

fallior said:
How's that true if it's a brand new 2010 windows 7 computer?


The computer could have been built for office tasks, not gaming.

Just becuase a computer is new doesn't make it a gaming computer.

Anyway the computer might be new but that graphics chip dates back to at least 2007.
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a b U Graphics card
July 16, 2010 5:23:54 AM

A $300 dollar computer will not play the latest games, ever.
In all honesty, you computer is probably worth less.
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July 16, 2010 5:24:30 AM

Is this a laptop you have?
Anyway even if it isn't, sabot is right. Integrated graphics cards do little more than facilitating movie watching.
You will need to buy a graphics card.
For gaming, graphics cards are the MOST important component in a computer.
So even if 99% of your components passed, the main one didn't.
(Second to graphics cards are CPU's and then RAM- i think- etc... )
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a b U Graphics card
July 16, 2010 5:28:21 AM

thegoat is mostly right the GPU is pretty much the center of a gaming rig, a capable processor (your's is decent) to pair it up, after the GPU/CPU the RAM and HDD are more of the storage subsystems, which have dramatically less impact than the processing elements.
So while his ordering is correct (GPU, CPU, RAM) the RAM doesn't matter that much, most games can shrug along with even 2GB of RAM.
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July 16, 2010 6:12:05 AM

unfortunately, your GPU is an oboard and GTA IV is a demanding game,

you need to but a video card in order for you to play GTA IV at respectable framerate


if you want the cheapest solution, i suggest you get this card

GIGABYTE GV-R467ZL-1GI Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

for $59.99 -$15 after mail in rebate Free Shipping* = $44.99


also your processor will be a bottleneck and will hold your video cards performance down, i suggest you overclock your processor to atlest 3.2Ghz minimum for GTA IV


sabot00 said:
A $300 dollar computer will not play the latest games, ever.
In all honesty, you computer is probably worth less.


never underestimate the low-end market(all bnew parts), i think you don't know what your talking about

by the way a video showing what a $300 pc can do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9crLXRps7A


also the op's computer far from worth less, a simple video card upgrade and overclock will make that computer run any latest games


this is a "help" forum not to criticize the forum poster, if you cant post something helpful just don't post
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a b U Graphics card
July 16, 2010 6:33:16 AM

The youtube link you sent me had a 4350, which could hardly play the latest games, the games would start, but not much else.

We all realize that a overclock and graphics card upgrade would be enough, but as the OP says "2010 windows 7 PC" we can only assume it is an retail computer (Dell, HP, etc), and they can't overclock.

Right now the best he can do is tell us his PSU, mobo, etc, and get a new graphics card.
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July 16, 2010 6:53:14 AM

since i always encounter people who say you need to spend atleast 1000+ for a cpu to play the latest games

i made a build just for fun for $300 that can play any latest games at medium to high quality with good smooth and playable framerate

Processor:
AMD Athlon II X2 245 Regor 2.9GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core for $58.99 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Motherboard:
Foxconn M61PMP-K AM3 NVIDIA MCP61P Micro ATX for $43.99 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Memory:
2x Crucial 1GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) for $23.99+$23.99+$0.99 Shipping*+$0.99 Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Hard Drive:
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3250318AS 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" for $44.99 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


DVD Drive/Burner /w Lighscribe:
LG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD Burner - Bulk LightScribe Support - OEM for $19.99 Free Shipping*


Video Card:
ZOTAC ZT-98GES5P-FDL GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI for $74.99 -$20 after mail in rebate Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Case w/ PSU:
Pixxo CX-5C59 Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply for $39.99 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Grand Total: $332.9 -$20 after mail in rebate = $312.9 including shipping

with a little bit of tweaking(overclock) on that system, you could play any latest games at high settings
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a b U Graphics card
July 16, 2010 6:08:06 PM

Did I say you needed a $1000 CPU?

This arguing is useless, that $300 build has severe drawbacks (2GB ram, 250GB HDD), but listing it isn't going to help the OP.

What was wrong with my last post other than you choosing to sterotype me and extend a meaningless argument?
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July 17, 2010 5:37:40 AM

that a statement "A $300 dollar computer will not play the latest games, ever. "

is a "bogus"

if you think 2gb ram and 250gb hdd is "insufficient", i guess you have no experience on lowend market so arguing with someone like this will just trow nonsense blahblahblah and im not wasting my time and effort to prove something on blind eyes


back to topic

to the op:

some helpful info i gathered for you

i highly recommend you update GTA IV to latest patch because it bring massive performance boost and fixes
http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=397064&st=...


also this list of command lines is very handy especially for finding the best balance between performance and image quality
http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=397064&st=...


according to this post, if you want the image quality of ps3 and xbox 360, this is the equivalent of settings in pc
http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=397064&st=...


also since you are using an AMD processor(Athlon II X2 215 2.7Ghz) i highly recommend you install the AMD Dual-Core optimizer, it will give you a couple more FPS!!!
http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=397064&st=...


and last but not the least, these mods looks awesome(you need patch 1.0.4.0)
http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=386262
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July 17, 2010 7:11:20 AM

sabot00 said:
A $300 dollar computer will not play the latest games, ever.
In all honesty, you computer is probably worth less.



Where the hell did you even get that from? I said I purchased my Windows 7 64 for $800, so you started an arguement over something I never even said....
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a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2010 8:01:16 AM

.....talk about missing the point! What's with the arguing ppl?? Help this guy out. :) 

Coming straight to the point:

1. OC your processor.
GTAIV, though may run on your current processor speed, it's advisable to OC it (if you don't plan on upgrading to a Quad Core). GTAIV is a processor intensive game and WILL strain you processor.

2. GPU
An upgrade is necessary. For the simple fact that though your computer is brand new, the graphics capabilities of the onboard chip are, sorry to say, outdated. Further, an onboard setup won't give you the kick required for modern day gaming (GTAIV especially). The architecture of that chip is old and I would advise you to get a separate GPU. Should you consider it, there will be a plethora of options, which we would be happy to assist in separately depending on your decision.
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July 17, 2010 9:29:58 AM

fallior said:
are you sure it's not possible at all to play GTA4 on my computer?

first get a Quad core Processor & a nice Graphics card, then u will able to play GTA 4 on above medium settings.... u r using on-board graphics, and they r really bad for gaming(Not meant for gaming), if u try to run GTA4 on that u will not get more than 2 or 3 fps... that means not at all........
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