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November 5, 2010 5:30:13 AM

Hello,

I've been reading over these forums for quite a while now, although this is my first time posting. Let me say that I appreciate any advice for the following questions, and the tidbits of information that I've read in the past. :) 

It is time, I think, to upgrade my computer. I primarily use it for gaming - almost exclusively a heavily modded Oblivion and Starcraft 2. Currently, I have:

CPU: AMD x2 6000+ (3.1GHz)
GPU: ATI Radeon Sapphire 4870 1GB
4GB RAM (I forget the brand or the speed)
Intel 80GB SSD

I'm looking to upgrade in several steps. I know I will need a new motherboard and RAM for a new CPU. But I am wondering, what will I see more benefit from? Upgrading the motherboard and CPU, which dates from 2007, I believe, or the graphics card? And does having a dedicated sound card improve performance by taking load off of the CPU or is this change negligible?

And I would appreciate any suggestions on what to upgrade to.

Thanks a lot!

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November 5, 2010 6:04:39 AM

It really depends much of your budget - well your cpu is not really good. But if you got a good budget I will get a new motherboard and a cpu.
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November 5, 2010 6:40:18 AM

Upgrade one Hardware & left others OLD is not good Step , it was my problem too . all i decided was to upgrade to this CHEAP system which is HIGH-END ( i mean its cheap in its Range ) take a look :

MOBO: GA P55A UD3
CPU:Intel Core i5 760 Quad 2.8GHZ
RAM:2x2GB 1333MHZ DDR3
PSU:CHeap & GOOD 600Watt like Cooler Master Silent Pro 600Watt

& after u made this RIG , if u had enough Budget then go for VGA card :
lowest highest ( cheaper than 5850 )
ATI 5770 , ATI 6850 , ATI 5850 or ATI 6870 .
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November 5, 2010 6:40:37 AM

We're assuming you are gaming at 1920 or less - if so, your 4870 is a good card.

If you need to upgrade anything, its your cpu and whatever else needs to change to make that happen.
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November 5, 2010 6:53:13 AM

ATI 4870 is good but its risky to get it because , it may goes Recycled just like 4890 !
5000 Series & 6000 Series are now talking !
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November 5, 2010 7:02:29 AM

^ The OP already has the 4870.
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November 5, 2010 7:11:11 AM

So There is no need to Upgrade 4870 , just Upgrade rest of SYSTEM as i mentioned above !
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November 5, 2010 7:14:33 AM

& then u GET 100% great performance
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November 5, 2010 8:24:57 AM

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Your cpu sucks big time.Any new card will be severely bottlenecked if you buy a powerful gpu.So tell us your budget so that we can suggest an upgrade.


As I will upgrade in steps, I can spend a bit of cash to get a fairly high-end system over the next few weeks. I'm willing to spend $400-500 for the motherboard and CPU, and an additional $300 for the GPU.
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November 5, 2010 8:26:36 AM

Twoboxer said:
We're assuming you are gaming at 1920 or less - if so, your 4870 is a good card.

If you need to upgrade anything, its your cpu and whatever else needs to change to make that happen.


Screen resolution is indeed at 1920.
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November 5, 2010 11:09:39 AM

dyount said:
Hello,

... I primarily use it for gaming - almost exclusively a heavily modded Oblivion and Starcraft 2. Currently, I have:


CPU: AMD x2 6000+ (3.1GHz)
GPU: ATI Radeon Sapphire 4870 1GB
4GB RAM (I forget the brand or the speed)
Intel 80GB SSD


I'm looking to upgrade in several steps. I know I will need a new motherboard and RAM for a new CPU...



What motherboard do you currently have? Most likely it will support a new AM3 CPU. The rest of your setup is 'not-to-shabby'.

Oblivion will not really benefit from a quad-core CPU. Your issue with SC-II is even with a new video card running DX11 it is quite likely you will get the same or lower frame rates than with an HD4870 running DX10.

However -- now would be the best time to unload your HD4870 and get what money you can out of it. That could recoup some of your investment in something like a new HD 6850.

With an HD6850, an upgrade to an AM3 PhII 955BE, and selling off your old video card, you could end up with a substantial overall upgrade for around $275.



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November 5, 2010 6:10:51 PM

- The cpu/mobo should be upgraded.

- If you like the price you can get for your 4870 vs the cost of a new card, consider that separately.

The two things are not connected.
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November 5, 2010 6:20:44 PM

does he really need to upgrade his gpu?
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November 5, 2010 6:45:04 PM

No, that's the point.
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November 5, 2010 6:49:38 PM

Oh a little suggestion : MSI mobos are Crap , go for GIGABYTE GA P55A UD3 to get better match with i5 760 ( that i recommend u ) 2x2Gb ddr3 is enough . , ATI 5850 can Provide u alot but if u realy wanna pay more , then go for 5870 . but dont go for MIS motherboards . GIGA or ASUS
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November 6, 2010 3:59:32 AM

Thank you all for the advice. :) 
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November 7, 2010 8:55:57 PM

Upgrading or a new build will get you ready for the new games but won't do much to improve Oblivion. For that you you should check out some of the mods and utilities available for the game.
Sorry! slightly off topick.
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November 8, 2010 11:08:53 AM

I've had a few killer MSI motherboards --- one I can't seem to part with: The K9A2 Platinum. It runs every AMD processor - their BIOS support was great!



I've actually grown accustom to the color of those DIMM slots :lol: 

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November 8, 2010 5:17:23 PM

GIGA works on tis Mobos a lot ! i heard that MSI mobos have had many problems , they break so soon , you were one of lucky persons .
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November 8, 2010 8:30:42 PM

Viper98 said:
GIGA works on tis Mobos a lot ! i heard that MSI mobos have had many problems , they break so soon , you were one of lucky persons .


I've built and owned MSI motherboards going back to the days of Socket7 -- can't say they have had any more problems than any other OEM, and as noted above, on certain models their BIOS support goes on for years. The only problem of significance that I recall was a noisy fan on the sb on what might have been a NF3 motherboard -- and my supplier readily replaced that.

How many have you owned? Or is this just a matter of your opinion or some 'internet legend' you are passing on? MSI is one of the biggest motherboard vendors in the world. I'm sure they've had a few *dogs* along the way but I haven't seen one; and the 'other guys' have put some real bowsers out there, too - LOL
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November 8, 2010 9:57:01 PM

What mobo do you have? If you can upgrade the cpu, everything else seems fine for now. You can save up the money for when all the new "candy" comes out. If nothing else, what you would buy now would cost less. ;) 
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