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August 20, 2010 7:44:17 PM

Hello guys, I'm having a dilemma still at the moment even after making 1 post about a similar issue. I'm unsure as what to get so that any part of my system doesn't Bottle neck the other while gaming (specifically in Sc2)
I don't know whether my current CPU-RAM-MOBO is bottle necking my game play and making my frames drop or if my GPU is too weak. It seems when I play 1v1 I don't lag whether i run low or all settings on ULTRA, but the other brackets such as 2v2 3v3 and 4v4 seem to lag regardless of the settings and resolution when I star seeing mass units on screen, which leads me to believe that the problem may be my slower cpu? (my guess i am no wiz)


Let me show you my current setup which is kind of old now:


-AMD Phenom 9500 Quad Core 2.2ghz

-OLD locked ECS mc6p1gm motherboard

-Visiontek 4850 Gpu

-4gb ddr2 ram

-350gb Seagate

-650watt OCZ Power supply

-Win vista 32 bit home premium

-24" Synaps 1920x1080


I'm looking to spend around $350 Cdn or less if i can from www.Ncix.com as I live near the warehouse. If you guys don't mind can you take the time to recommend what I should do?

Perhaps pick up a:

-ASUS M4A77TD ATX AM3 DDR3 AMD770 SB710 mobo

-G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL Ripjaws PC3-12800 4GB 2X2GB DDR3-1600

and either

-Phenom II x2 x3 or x4 cpu OR A

-Ati 5800 series gpu or a nvidia gtx 465+



Thanks a lot ! awaiting a reply
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August 20, 2010 8:57:04 PM

The fact that you get lag with lowered settings and resolution tells me that CPU may be an issue.

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August 20, 2010 9:02:38 PM

Yeah that's what I have been hearing, how is this for a purchase guys? Or should I buy a cheaper CPU and a better motherboard?

G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL Ripjaws PC3-12800 4GB 2X2GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Core i5 1.5V Memory Kit
$96.99

AMD Phenom II X2 555 Dual Core Processor AM3 3.2GHZ 6MB L3 Cache 80W 45NM Retail Box
$124.99

ASUS M4A77TD ATX AM3 DDR3 AMD770 SB710 PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 3PCI IDE 6SATA Sound GBLAN Motherboard
$89.88
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August 20, 2010 9:09:00 PM

If you were planning on unlocking some cores that looks OK, otherwise I'd just go with an Athlon II x4 or x3... Phenom II vs Athlon II doesn't make that much difference really...
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August 20, 2010 9:18:33 PM

Yeah I am planning to "attempt" to unlock, although I have never done anything like that before or overclocked, but I hear phenoms and those boards are great for it.

OH ALSO, before I forget to ask, that mobo I chose specifies that it takes 1800oc memory. Now does that mean stander ddr3 1800 memory will work?
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August 20, 2010 9:29:09 PM

That 1600mhz stuff will be perfect, I wouldn't change or overclock it. 1800OC just means that the board will let you overclock your memory to 1800mhz if you want (if your memory can physically do it).
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August 20, 2010 9:33:08 PM

Oh alright I get it, now just 1 more thing before I have my decision. I know you already stated that there isn't much of a difference between the athlon II and the phenom II. But if it were you purchasing for longevity and lasting factor for maybe 2+ years of gaming, that would include games such as SC2 and Diablo 3, would you pick up a more expensive mobo over the one I chose or a Phenom II x4 BE over the x2 I originally had. Thanks
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August 20, 2010 9:41:09 PM

I probably wouldn't get a more expensive mobo... personally I like the Gigabyte 770t-USB3 (and Gigabyte's other 770 based mobos) a little more though.

Other than that I'd recommend either staying cheap, and going with either a Phenom II x2 / Athlon II x4 - or else making the jump to an i5 760 and a P55 motherboard.
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August 20, 2010 9:53:06 PM

Appreciate the quick responses man. As for jumping to the i5 I couldn't do it with the $350 budget, seeing how I need the ram and mobo still. I could however go for the Intel i3 core over the Phenom II x2 / Athlon x4 but then again most people have been recommending me an AMD build. (not sure why prob cause it's cheaper)

What do you personally think about the alternative Intel i3 core 2.93 ghz build with some kind of p55 mobo or do you still stand by the build we listed above.


Ps. sorry for all these darn questions but I want to make the right choice and I'm fairly new to builds and questions keep coming up :D 
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August 20, 2010 10:37:54 PM

Alright man, thanks for the read and I have made my mind up. I am going for this:


- AMD Phenom II X2 555 Dual Core Processor AM3 3.2GHZ 6MB L3 Cache 80W 45NM Retail Box
- MSI 870A-G54 ATX AM3 870 DDR3 2PCI-E16 CrossFire 1PCI-E1 3PCI SATA3 USB3.0 GBLAN Motherboard
- G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)

Last Questions --

I have went with the 1333mhz because I don't want to buy the 1600 for only the mobo to set it back to 1333 speeds.
Or can it run 1600mhz without me messing around in BIOS?

I have also went with the G.skill that state CORE I5 MEMORY KIT, these will still be compatible with AMD3 correct?

++ for help and sticking around, much appreciated
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August 20, 2010 10:38:17 PM

Best answer selected by ushy86.
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August 21, 2010 12:58:46 AM

Usually for 1600mhz stuff you do have to play in the BIOS a little bit... That 1333 stuff will be great. Core i5 stuff just runs at a lower voltage, and should be fine. It's buying AMD stuff and putting it in a core i5 system that can be troublesome.
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