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ASUS rampage IV extreme z or P8Z68 Pro?

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July 3, 2011 5:15:07 PM

Hey guys, I'm currently planning on building a new build based on a 2600k.

I'm struggling on choosing a Mobo due to the PCI-E bandwidth, I want to go SLI GTX 580's or even 590's.

Is it worth spending more money on the Rampage IV to get x16 dual or go with a cheaper board and get X8 dual?

I'm just wondering incase it affects my planned cards or even the next gen Nvidia cards.
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July 3, 2011 5:36:13 PM

There's a huge difference between the GTX 580 and GTX 590, and if choosing the GTX 590 SLI the MOBO must support Quad-GPU and if it's not listed then don't get the MOBO. Here's a list -> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-590-dua... IMO ASUS P8P67 WS Revolution the UD7's are good choices as well.

For 2/3-WAY SLI GTX 580 I would choose either the Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD7-B3 or the slightly cheaper GA-P67A-UD7-B3; same performance.

IMO - I would 3-WAY the GTX 580. The only good environment for gaming is a 30" 2560x1600 (60Hz) or triple HD 1920x1080 (120Hz). Otherwise it's a waste of GPUs. Footnote: 150+FPS is nice but on a 60Hz (60FPS) monitor it's a loss of 90FPS.
July 3, 2011 5:44:26 PM

jaquith said:
There's a huge difference between the GTX 580 and GTX 590, and if choosing the GTX 590 the MOBO must support Quad-GPU and if it's not listed then don't get the MOBO. Here's a list -> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-590-dua... IMO ASUS P8P67 WS Revolution the UD7's are good choices as well.

For 2/3-WAY SLI GTX 580 I would choose either the Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD7-B3 or the slightly cheaper GA-P67A-UD7-B3; same performance.

IMO - I would 3-WAY the GTX 580. The only good environment for gaming is a 30" 2560x1600 (60Hz) or triple HD 1920x1080 (120Hz). Otherwise it's a waste of GPUs. Footnote: 150+FPS is nice but on a 60Hz (60FPS) monitor it's a loss of 90FPS.


What about 3D gaming?
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July 3, 2011 5:54:02 PM

...triple HD 1920x1080 [b said:
(120Hz).]...triple HD 1920x1080 (120Hz).
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The reason I listed the 120Hz set-up is because of 3D Gaming! ;)  However, it requires ONLY 120Hz monitors, and currently the only 120Hz are HD 1920x1080, meaning 'to my knowledge' there's NO 30" 2560x1600 120Hz monitors.

In my 3-WAY I use Acer GD235HZbid -> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... since last year and for me their great :) 

Here's what Newegg has with 120Hz -> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E... but they're all HD 1920x1080. You could have 3 REALLY BIG 1920x1080 monitors...
July 3, 2011 5:58:14 PM

Over time I guess I could get 3 :) 

Maybe on the UD7 gigabyte board you listed I can slowly get 2 watercooled 590's or 580's. Watercooled bcause the gap on the X16 slots is minimal and air cooling them may be a problem ;) 
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July 3, 2011 6:14:39 PM

The UD7's use the the NF200's so you get x16/x16 2-WAY SLI though with added latency as with any X58 or MOBO with a secondary chipset e.g. NF200.

Again, IMO the GTX 580's are the better option - now aka 'Today'. See this post and the comparisons -> http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=925437&mpage=1

Currently, I have GTX 470 3-WAY + PhysX on my X58, it's replacement is going to be the LGA 2011 + SB-E 8-core {assuming Intel keeps the 8-core} + Quad-Channel + 32-lanes of PCIe 3.0 {P67/Z68 is 16-lanes} all wrapped-up in 3-WAY + PhysX or maybe 4-WAY {need to see the benches}.

Meaning, I prefer to keep to the enthusiasts lines {LGA 1366 or LGA 2011} and avoid the consumer lines {LGA 1156 or LGA 1155}. The LGA 2011 'should' be available in just a few months -- guessing November 2011. The new Ivy-Bridge, Sandy Bridge replacement, CPUs should come out perhaps before the SB-E. I build extreme rigs and I've told everyone to cool their jets and wait just a little bit longer.
July 3, 2011 6:21:53 PM

I guess I can wait, depends on the prices.
I don't really need an extreme rig, just a good top end for future games.
I think 2 580's will be enough, but I want to look into the new generation before I decide ;) 
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July 3, 2011 6:47:03 PM

It all depends upon 'need' and the needs' 'timing' :)  Don't get me wrong 2/3-WAY GTX 580 is damn good running on the P67/Z68 or X58 the differences are negligible.

So will the Ivy Bridge perform better - duh yeah, will it Game better under the same 2/3-WAY GTX 580 SLI yeah BUT not by that much! To a few people I've told them to get any P67/Z68 that supports SLI, an i5-2500K, cheaper 2x4GB RAM, and once the LGA 2011 is available remove the older LGA 1155 MOBO + i5-2500K + RAM and build a great desktop {old} and reuse all the other components in an Extreme Rig. The i5-2500K Games EXACTLY the same as i7-2600K.

As said, this all depends on you and your budget! ;) 
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