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ATI 5830/5850 PCIe 1.x

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July 19, 2010 1:10:17 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE:Within one month.
BUDGET RANGE: $200 to $300ish (Of course less is always good too=)

USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming/homework and internet

CURRENT GPU AND POWER SUPPLY: GPU: Palit 4850 512mb PSU: 350W stock psu (I already know I need to upgrade this so the price is not included in my budget)

OTHER RELEVANT SYSTEM SPECS: Dell Inspiron 530 (normal size) with Q9400@2.66GHZ, 3GB RAM, 320GB HDD, Windows XP Pro, possibly Win 7 partition in near future.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg

PARTS PREFERENCES: Would like to go ATI but I might have the wrong idea, need something with a good cooler since my case cooling is stock.

OVERCLOCKING: Wont be overclocking

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Here's my dilemma; I am looking for a card to hopefully extend the life of my computer another 1.5 to 2 years. DX 11 is preferable. I think my mobo is an Intel G33 chipset, I'm not sure of the PCIe version I think it is 1.x. I am looking at a 5830 or 5850 or a 4890/70. I really can't decide. I want something to play games at my new monitor's resolution which is a 22" at 1920x1080. If its not possible with my setup thats fine I just want to get as close as possible. Whats a good card and will a PCIe2.1 card be compatible with my mobo? Thanks for any help you can give me.
Edit: Sorry I'm too wordy but, do you think my processor or anything else will be too slow to keep up with a newer GPU? Is this upgrade worth my money or should I wait until I buy a new computer in one or two years?

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a c 153 U Graphics card
July 19, 2010 6:07:22 AM

Use CPU-z to get the motherboard make and model and post those back here.

However a 2.1 card will be compatible with 1.0 but there are known issues, its safer to use a 2.0 card.
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a c 189 U Graphics card
July 19, 2010 11:42:26 AM

HD5850 is good for a long term, make sure you get a high quality PSU to run it... :) 
Yes, it's safer to get a 2.0 card, since many issues with 1.0 boards with 2.1 cards...
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July 19, 2010 10:35:03 PM

CPU-Z says that my chipset is an Intel P35/G33/G31 Rev. A2
Southbridge: Intel 82801IR (ICH9R)
LPCIO: ITE IT8718

My BIOS version is 1.0.15 but there is an update available to take it to .18 dated for 3/11/09.

Do you think a 2.1 card will work properly or even a 5850 listed as 2.0. I know they are all 2.1 but I thought that if they were listed as 2.0 they were supposed to work better. Also if my PCIe is 1.x will I still see a performance increase over my 4850 or will I not notice a difference or will it bottleneck somewhere with my system? I know I have a lot of questions thanks for all your help.
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a c 124 U Graphics card
July 19, 2010 10:45:56 PM

The main difference between PCIe 1 and 2 is that 1 is about half the bandwidth of 2. So, PCIe 1 16x is comparable to PCIe 2 8x. Honestly tho, that makes little difference. An article here on toms compares, and a 5870 only saw a 4% decrease in performance. If you go with something lower, a 5770 is a great choice, and won't see a difference.

As for the 2.0 vs 2.1 cards, honestly I have no idea.
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July 20, 2010 12:54:53 PM

I think I'll go with a 5850 after I make sure it'll fit of course. I've read a few people with these computers got them to fit but it was tight. So i'll have to do some measuring tonight. Thanks for your help guys. I'll keep checking back in case anyone has any other information.
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July 21, 2010 12:36:00 AM

I was wondering about GPU power connections. The PSU I'm looking at has 1 6 pin for PCIe and one (6+2) hook-up. The 2 part of the connection is separate. Can I just hook up the 6 part of it and leave the 2 pin unhooked to anything when hooking up the videocard power. I was wondering since the 5850 requires two 6 pin connections.
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July 21, 2010 2:16:31 AM

polorclaw said:
I was wondering about GPU power connections. The PSU I'm looking at has 1 6 pin for PCIe and one (6+2) hook-up. The 2 part of the connection is separate. Can I just hook up the 6 part of it and leave the 2 pin unhooked to anything when hooking up the videocard power. I was wondering since the 5850 requires two 6 pin connections.


Yep exactly. The +2 is just if you need another 8 pin, otherwise it's just a regular 6 pin.
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July 21, 2010 1:23:56 PM

Cool, thanks wolfram.
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July 30, 2010 7:24:20 PM

Best answer selected by polorclaw.
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