Which case to use on new build

[Raffi_14]

So its my first time putting together a build. Its a budget build so i'm not to sure which one would be best. The options:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811121004

If the link is broken then its the:

HEC 6K28BBX585 Black 0.8mm SECC Steel MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case 585W Power Supply


OR
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12650AC7087&vpn=CS-51WBK&manufacture=LOGISYS#specifications

likewise if link doesn't work its the:

Logisys CS-51WBK Black ATX Tower Case 4X5.25 2X3.5 5X3.5IN W/ 480W Front USB Audio

Please give reasons for your choice, thanks again.

 

[Raffi_14]

ugh not sure why the links wont work or how to fix them...

 

[hunter315]

Either remove the URL tags or put something between the ] and [

I hope you are planning to get a new power supply because the included PSU in both of those cases are crap and i wouldnt let them near your components.

Both cases are pretty cheap, neither come with any special features, but the Logisys is a full ATX case so it gives you a lot more upgrade options down the line, while the HEC is pretty limited on hard drive slots, and the Logisys looks like it has most places for fans if you need them.

 

[Raffi_14]

is a 585W power supply not good enough? how much do you think i'd need?
Or is it the quality?

 

[hunter315]

Its the quality of the unit, the logisys "480W" unit has a single 12V rail with 16A(192W) which is pathetic for a 480W unit. The HEC has a 19A and a 20A rail, but doesnt admit what the combined power between them is. With a unit that is cheap enough to come in a ~$30 case, you will be lucky if 19+20=30, its Passive PFC and lack of 80+ certification tells us that its an older inefficient design and likely cant do what it claims.

Here are the links to them on newegg to see their specs
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817170024
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817339001

 

[Raffi_14]

I see... im kinda on a tight budget =/ would you recommend buying the case and psu separate?

 

[hunter315]

Definitely! There are very few PSUs included with cases that are any good, the only ones i know of that are good are included with Antec cases. Newegg.ca seems to still have the corsair 400CX, my preferred little unit for lower power builds, its more expensive than either of those cases but it will last you for many years to come unlike those two with 1 year warranties. They seem to have the EA380D for a little cheaper, it is just as good but it does not come with a power cable(not a problem for most people since most have spares). I would recommend one of those two instead of either of the two that come with those cases because if a PSU goes it might just die, it might decide to take some other things down with it so you dont want to go too cheap on your PSU.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139008&Tpk=400cx
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033&Tpk=EA380D

 

[Raffi_14]

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=23310AC5129&vpn=BFGR550WGSPSU&manufacture=BFG
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171046

Are any of these better? Or do you have any in mind at a similar price?

 

[Raffi_14]

Alright thank you.. ill look into those

 

[Raffi_14]

ughh im already over budget... are neither of the ones I put up above any good?

 

[hunter315]

BFG is currently in liquidation so i dont suggest getting any of their products since there is no warranty support.

The Cooler master 460W is decent, not great not total crap, but its less powerful than the EA380D, and the little red switch is a sign of an older design. It would probably survive for a few months but i wouldnt leave it in a system for more than a year.

What else are you going to have in this system so we can make sure you have enough power?

 

[Raffi_14]

ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 AMD Motherboard

Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model 996768

AMD Athlon II X3 440 Triple Core Processor AM3 3.0GHZ 1.5MB L2 Cache 95W 45NM Retail Box

Samsung E2220X 21.5IN Lcd Monitor 1920X1080 Full Hd 5MS 70000:1DCR Vga Dvi - Black

Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 850MHZ 1GB 4.8GHZ GDDR5 PCI-E 2XDVI HDMI Display Port Lite Video Card V2

*forgot this* Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

If you can help shed a few bucks off i can fit in the PSU...

 

[Raffi_14]

i Should prob add prices....


ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 AMD Motherboard
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model 996768 --- $152

AMD Athlon II X3 440 Triple Core Processor AM3 3.0GHZ 1.5MB L2 Cache 95W 45NM Retail Box ---$80

Samsung E2220X 21.5IN Lcd Monitor 1920X1080 Full Hd 5MS 70000:1DCR Vga Dvi - Black ---$160

Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 850MHZ 1GB 4.8GHZ GDDR5 PCI-E 2XDVI HDMI Display Port Lite Video Card V ---$162

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive ---$68

Need to make some cuts if possible... anyone got any suggestions?

 

[Raffi_14]

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