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August 24, 2010 4:16:03 AM

Hi guys. I need help with a new build.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: this week.

BUDGET RANGE: $1000 After Rebates

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: video encoding (for my iPad), playing HD videos, gaming, general purposes

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: OS, monitors, keyboard, mouse, sound card

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com, amazon.com (I have prime), and frys (I live near one, so I can pick up parts, but there're sales taxes.)

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: US

PARTS PREFERENCES: no preferences as long as the quality is good

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I would like a quiet pc. Also my room is HOT, so I want the pc itself to be cool enough.


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Processor: Most likely a quad-core, would like some recommendations. Need something powerful and fast enough that video re-encoding won't take too long.

CPU Heatsink: Probably this one if choose intel CPU.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$32

Video Card: Thinking Radeon HD 5770. Though, I do have my old MSI 8800GT 512MB to wait for some price drop on the horizon or black friday, if needed.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$144.99

Hard Drive: SSD wanted for the OS drive. Thinking of getting a 64GB 2.5'' SSD mounted into 3.5'' bay. I have a blank 1TB internal HD and a few 500GB USB drives lying around, so I'm not pressed for storage space.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$118.99

SSD Mounting Kit: Choosing this because it's made of aluminium and not plastic. A little concern about the size.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$9.99

Motherboard: Need help. Would love one with plenty of USBs and enough PCIE/PCI ports for sound card, tv tuner with some room.


RAM: Would like a recommendation along with CPU and MOBO.


Tower: Cooler Master Cosmos 1000. I love the look (no windows, no leds). Supposedly quiet and cool. Plenty of room for the clumsy me to work with.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=11-119-...
$169.99

PSU: A quiet one. 550-600W. Is this one good? Something cheaper? (Modular is nice, but not really required)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$99.99

CD/DVD Burner: LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS424-98 LightScribe Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$25.99

Currently sitting at $601.94, so $400 left. :ouch:  Would something fit into the budget for (CPU+mobo+ram) if I add another $100 or take out HD 5770 for now? Please feel free to dissect this build.

Thank you!

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August 24, 2010 7:32:09 AM

1. The PSU you linked is $70 not 100 (Corsair 650 TX)

2. Do you really need a 170 dollar tower?

Cheaper full tower (Since you prefer Cooler Master)- $130 COOLER MASTER HAF 932

Mid Tower - $90 COOLER MASTER HAF 922

Now that we've increased your CPU + Mobo + RAM budget to ~450 ---

Intel Build ---

CPU : $210 Intel Core i5-760

Mobo : $170 ASUS P7P55D-E Pro

AMD Build --- (More cost effective)

CPU : $166 AMD Phenom II X4 965

Mobo : $150 ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3

RAM : $103 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB)

ODD Drive : It's a matter of personal preference, and I prefer LG/Samsung/Sony to Lite-On.

SSD : If you're not pressed for storage, this 40 GB is gonna be faster - OCZ Vertex 2

But really, you should wait for a couple of months, when newer, faster SSD's are gonna come out & prices of the older ones are also gonna fall.
August 24, 2010 3:29:28 PM

calguyhunk: thanks for the input! Yeah, I might wait on the SSD. I'd keep the COSMOS 1000, as I really like it.

Now the budget for CPU+Mobo+RAM became 400 + 30 + 130 = $560.

How about...

CPU: $290 Intel Core i7-860
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: $103 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo: $170 ASUS P7P55D-E Pro
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


More comments are welcome. Thanks!
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August 24, 2010 4:14:29 PM

The Intel Core i7-870 costs exactly the same as the 860 on Newegg. Go with it. Almost perfect for a 1156 system - congrats.
August 24, 2010 10:58:34 PM

Pulled the trigger. ;) 
August 24, 2010 11:26:56 PM

AMD x6 would've been better price/performance for encoding TBH. 170$ cheaper than that i7 build/24$ cheaper than the AMD if you had gotten a 1055t+Asrock 870 extreme 3, that AMD x4 build is kinda silly for what you're doing, you should never really spend more than 110$ on an AM3 mobo.


Same with ripjaws, the 1.35 voltage kit is the same price, and would've been lower power over time. Not necessarily better, but something I would've recommended over a 1.65 voltage kit which is sorta deadended in terms of carrying it to a new build.

Hence why should always wait for 2/3 people to approve a build before buying.
August 25, 2010 9:31:56 AM

sp12 said:
AMD x6 would've been better price/performance for encoding TBH. 170$ cheaper than that i7 build/24$ cheaper than the AMD if you had gotten a 1055t+Asrock 870 extreme 3, that AMD x4 build is kinda silly for what you're doing, you should never really spend more than 110$ on an AM3 mobo.
OMG! Do you even know what you're talking 'bout? Only 100 bucks on an AM3 Mobo? Sure if you wanna buy cheap, I can get you a $40 AM3 Mobo or a $50 1366 Mobo. But that's why you have a budget. If you can afford it, you want more features. You tell me your budget is $100 for CPU+Mobo & you can still get a get a pretty decent system. But there's a huge difference between 690/760 chipsets and the 890GX I linked him to. I pity a man who doesn't even know $hit from shinola but is masquerading as a genius.

sp12 said:
the 1.35 voltage kit is the same price, and would've been lower power over time. Not necessarily better, but something I would've recommended over a 1.65 voltage kit which is sorta deadended in terms of carrying it to a new build.
If you are overclocking your RAM, the 1.35V ECO gives you more room with the voltage settings. With the lower voltage requirements, it gives you more room to adjust voltage to help with stability in overclocking or running tighter timings. Running the Ripjaws at 1.65V, you don't have same headroom to adjust the voltage up to make an overclock stable. But, if you're not planning to overclock your ram, it really is of no consequence at all.
August 25, 2010 9:56:23 AM

You actually can't get a 50$ 1366 mobo, the X58 chipset itself is like 67$.

But what does the mobo you have listed offer over an Asrock 870a Extreme 3? Or a GA-870a-ud3? What's a specific feature? Performance? Motherboards don't even matter for it. Overclocking? Any of these boards will deal with a mild (sub 4.0) OC very well.

Answer -- crossfire, which doesn't even matter for this build because he needs to buy a strong single CPU at some point anyway.
August 25, 2010 4:39:35 PM

Video encoding is a multi-threaded application. It needs more threads, not more cores. The 870 has 4 cores & 8 threads, whereas the Thubans have 6 cores but only 6 threads.

Needless to say, the 870 beats the 1055 hollow in video encoding tasks. Check out anandtech.com

AMD's are better value, whereas Intel's better at the performance game. It's basically always been the case.

@ sp12

Henceforth please don't talk 'bout stuff you don't know. I only say things that I'm sure 'bout.

Oh, and 'bout that 1366 mobo bit, I meant AMD & Intel, not AM3 & 1366. I was so angry, that I had lost it for a second.
August 25, 2010 8:07:05 PM

Lol. The X6 outperforms the i7 in all video encoding apps. Threads do not make up for cores.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/107?vs=147

Look at the encode tests. X6 offers much better price/performance, and better performance in threaded apps.

That's not evidence. At all. The mobo you linked is a waste of money, especially for his application. I don't advocate saving money by getting poor build quality, but if you have the money for an 150$ AM3 board you're better served with an iX build (barring productivity/encoding apps).
August 26, 2010 5:06:12 AM

Am I missing something? The page you linked shows exactly what I'm saying. For video encoding, the 870 has higher fps & a lower timing! That's exactly the way it's supposed to be. (Please try scrolling down the page in your link & look @ the bar graphs). In every single category, the 870 outperforms the Thuban.

Thanks for making my job easier! Anyways, I've had enough of this silly debate & I'm unsubscribing to this thread.
August 26, 2010 9:55:55 AM

In single-threaded encoders, sure, but in a fully threaded one the x6 outperforms. IMO if you're still using a single/lightly-threaded encoder it's time to upgrade simply as you'll see a 2-6x performance boost depending on what processor you have.

And if you actually compare at the same price points - 1090T vs 870, you'll see the X6 at the same price offering greater performance.

And from a price/performance perspective, the 870 is 150$ more than an X6, or 48%.

Is the 870 really 48% faster? No. It's around 1-2% in decently threaded apps, 40% ahead in non-threaded apps, and behind in fully threaded ones. That money could've been spent on a nicer GPU or SSD and had a much more meaningful impact on performance.

I'd still love to hear your justification on that expensive motherboard. Would OP not have been better served by dropping it for a Ga-870a-ud3 and getting an X6? Have you looked at the x4 benchmarks?
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