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Upgrading from Intel G45/43 express chipset

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July 20, 2010 1:40:11 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: This or next week BUDGET RANGE: 150-280 Before / After rebates should be lower I guess, but doesn't really matter.

USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT:
gaming, movies, some flash games and videos.

CURRENT GPU AND POWER SUPPLY:
Input: 100-123V~/8A, Output: +5V---19.5AMax +12V---/16AMax +5vsb---/2AMax, DC output: 250 W. Current "GPU" is integrated: Intel G45/43 express chipset


OTHER RELEVANT SYSTEM SPECS:
I don't know how to find out my motherboard. Don't know where to look.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com

PARTS PREFERENCES: Just the one that works best together with my PSU and motherboard.

OVERCLOCKING: maybe SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No preference, I might get one of both in the future.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: Getting a bigger and newer one as this one is several years old and has a dent (not glass screen). The new one won't be alot bigger. My current one is 1280 by 1024 maxed.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: These are computers are exactly like my computer:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1374904

port.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&ServiceTag=&SystemID=STUDIO540S&os=WLH&osl=en&catid=&impid=

The possible video card that is most recent for my computer is the AMD radeon HD3450 and the second newest is the AMD radeon HD4350.

I measured my possible space for my PSU to be about 20 width x 9cm depth x 8cm height when looking from the top when the system is lying flat.

My computer:
Model: Studio slim 540S
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q8300 @2.50GHZ
RAM: 4.00 GB
System Type: 32 bit
OS: Windows Vista home premium SP2

I have no idea on compatibility of the PSU or the GPU for my system, so I need your help.
Here are the things I have picked (If recommended, I can buy the combos as separate):
Combos:
SAPPHIRE 100253HDMI Radeon HD 4650 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Low Profile Ready Video Card / OCZ StealthXStream OCZ600SXS 600W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

EVGA 01G-P3-1158-TR GeForce GTS 250 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card / CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card / CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

XFX HD-575X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card / XFX Black Edition XPS-850W-BES 850W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

EVGA 512-P3-N871-AR GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card / Thermaltake TR2 W0388RU 600W ATX 12V v2.2 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

EVGA 512-P3-N871-AR GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card / CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

EVGA 01G-P3-1158-TR GeForce GTS 250 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card / CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Individual GPUs or PSUs:
POWERCOLOR PCS+ AX5770 1GBD5-PPG Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 CrossFireX Support Video Card


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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July 20, 2010 1:51:30 PM

Just found out my motherboard model: Dell 0M017G
July 20, 2010 1:55:02 PM

I have an old computer case that is about 2x bigger, but the side transparent plastic is broken so dust can easily get in.
July 20, 2010 2:09:57 PM

Forgot to mention that I will be trying to play Mass effect and mass effect 2, the requirement for Mass effect 1 :

NVIDIA Geforce 6800 or greater; ATI Radeon X1300 XT or greater.

The minimum requirement for Mass effect 2 (got this from tom's hardware)
PC MINIMUM System Requirements
OS = Windows XP SP3 / Windows Vista SP1 / Windows 7
Processor = 1.8GHz Intel Core 2 Duo or equivalent AMD CPU
Memory = 1 GB RAM for Windows XP / 2 GB RAM for Windows Vista and Windows 7
Hard Drive = 15 GB
DVD ROM = 1x Speed
Sound Card = DirectX 9.0c compatible
Direct X = DirectX 9.0c August 2008 (included)
Input = Keyboard / Mouse
Video Card = 256 MB (with Pixel Shader 3.0 support). Supported Chipsets: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 or greater; ATI Radeon X1600 Pro or greater. Please note that NVIDIA GeForce 7300, 8100, 8200, 8300, 8400, and 9300; ATI Radeon HD3200, and HD4350 are below minimum system requirements. Updates to your video and sound card drivers may be required. Intel and S3 video cards are not officially supported in Mass Effect 2.

I found this from your link:
XFX PVT95GZAFG GeForce 9500 GT 1GB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If the card above works, I will get it and now I need a power supply that fits:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I actually want a larger watt power supply that could still fit just incase.
July 20, 2010 2:20:38 PM

Also, I read about "external" power supply that can be used outside your system, what are the cons? Can I do the same with my GPU in some way?
a c 376 U Graphics card
July 20, 2010 2:44:38 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$265 - $15 rebate, high quality components with a video card that will do well when you upgrade your monitor(get it today before the promo code on the PSU expires.)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$182 - $35 in rebates. Quality PSU, video card that will do very well at your current resolution and be ok for 1680x1050, acceptable case.
July 20, 2010 4:31:47 PM

jyjjy said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$265 - $15 rebate, high quality components with a video card that will do well when you upgrade your monitor(get it today before the promo code on the PSU expires.)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$182 - $35 in rebates. Quality PSU, video card that will do very well at your current resolution and be ok for 1680x1050, acceptable case.


Are those for a bigger case or for my slim case? I am only trying to upgrade my slim one first. I will be getting a new casing a few years from now as I have no urgent need for a new computer at the moment.
a c 376 U Graphics card
July 20, 2010 5:14:01 PM

The new case is so you don't need to use low profile video cards.
July 21, 2010 5:16:41 AM

I will be getting this GPU:
SAPPHIRE 100283-3L Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Now I am going to need a 500 watt minimum or 600 watt recommended power supply, can buy a big PSU and put it outside of my slim computer somehow?
a c 376 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 5:39:03 AM

Vaylen said:
can buy a big PSU and put it outside of my slim computer somehow?

No. It may be theoretically possible if you leave the case open at all times but it would definitely recommend against it. Anyway you cannot use an HD5770 in a slim case. As I said earlier you will need a new case for a full sized video card. With your current case you will be limited to much weaker cards and need a PSU with a special form factor which will limit your options drastically and cost more money.
The Rosewill case I linked above is nothing special but it should do the job fine and it is very cheap. It now has a promo code that makes it only $22 shipped;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It can fit both regular sized video cards(like the HD5770) and power supplies. The 400w Corsair PSU I linked will handle the HD5770 easily;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
July 21, 2010 6:04:40 AM

So I have to remove the motherboard in my studio slim? Are there any tutorials here for transferring all these things?
a c 376 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 6:23:11 AM

Yeah, you would. It really isn't that hard. Basically you'll just be unplugging some cables(power & sata) and unscrewing some stuff(motherboard & drives) then putting them in the new case and screwing them back in then reattaching the cables.
Otherwise the best you can do really is an HD5570. It's overpriced but it will be passable for gaming at your current resolution. If you upgrade your monitor though it is going to struggle. I think it should be alright for your current power supply;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
a c 376 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 11:13:35 PM

Interesting. Do you think it would be ok on a 250w Dell PSU?
July 23, 2010 3:22:43 PM

nvm it wont fit, my psu dimension is 2.5 height x 3.5 depth and by about 6.9 width. So I am stuck with transferring everything.
July 23, 2010 8:02:35 PM

I am going for the HD5570, I am going to build a gaming computer alot later, but for now I am not going to need a gaming computer much, only to play mass effect 1 and 2, as well as dragon age on a higher setting (I can already play dragon age on low setting with my integrated graphics). I just hope that the 250 watt power can keep up and I think my 250W can do the job since a lot of the review tells how the 400 watt is overestimating the needs.
a c 376 U Graphics card
July 24, 2010 3:08:56 AM

The PSU should be fine for the HD5570 and likely the HD5670.
July 24, 2010 4:28:13 PM

jyjjy said:
The PSU should be fine for the HD5570 and likely the HD5670.


Yea I am looking for the HD5670, but it doesn't look like they are selling it yet.
a c 376 U Graphics card
July 25, 2010 6:55:11 AM

May want to just hold off a lil until it is available.
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