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Is My Powersupply To Little?

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July 20, 2010 5:33:57 PM

Hey guys,

First off my Specs:

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
ASUS M4N98TD EVO AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGIBOX
XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
CORSAIR XMS3 DHX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TW3X4G1333C9DHX
LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM

(yes that's my newegg order, Sorry for not shortening them, didn't want to take out anything that might be important.)


I've been having BSOD during gaming that say my display driver is having problems or something. I cant remember how to get to the crash report or whatever, but i remember doing it and finding out that its a power issue, that my graphics card shut down due to lack of power i assume.

MY question then, is my power supply to low?

APEVIA ATX-AQ700W-BK 700W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)

It says 700W but I read the manual and it says for +12V1 through +12v4 is Max. 528W (44A). I don't know much about computers, but i know that's the graphics card and Motherboard. The graphics card needs a min. of 450W says newegg, and the cpu needs 220W says some diagnostic on Google i found. That's 670W. So do i need a new power supply that can handle that load? (i also want to OC my 5770, but would rather a stable system.)
The main reason Im not just going and getting a new one myself is that on the reviews for the PS people are saying there running duel OC'ed 5770's and others running crossfire and whatever. I'm confused as to how they can do that and i cant run a single card.

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a c 376 U Graphics card
July 20, 2010 5:47:10 PM

Your power supply should be more than enough for that system. Also I highly doubt a crash report would say anything about a lack of power.
Have you tried updating to the latest drivers?
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July 20, 2010 6:43:29 PM

Yes I've done the all the updates for windows, done the graphics card driver like 10 times, doesnt seem to work. Not every game crashes my system, i can play crysis on very high for however long i want and its fine, but when i play WOW or heroes of newerth it crashes.

Crash report might be the wrong word sorry, but its error 41's im getting. Thats why i said power issue.
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July 20, 2010 6:54:21 PM

Your PSU should be more than enough to power a 5770. It could possibly be a faulty GPU, so maybe you can swap in a friend's gpu or your onboard to see if it will crash during those games. Not sure of it will work, but worth a try.
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July 20, 2010 7:54:51 PM

I don't think its a faulty 5770, its brand new and The BSOD only happens on certain games, not the most graphic heavy games either. i disabled it and it wouldn't load HON, said error and my colors got messed up.
I just checked all my driver (i think, went to device manager and clicked on cpu, gpu) and they say up to date.
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July 20, 2010 9:45:41 PM

Its a brand new computer, all those parts are the first parts ive used. but ok ill try that
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a b U Graphics card
July 20, 2010 10:00:31 PM

Found this:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itproha...

Might be a bug related to USB drivers locking up the system with a fake power/temperature error.

Solution in that thread was:
"turn off usb legacy storage in bios"

EDIT: If this works I'm going to chuckle. I really don't expect it to, but sometimes you never know with these things.
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July 21, 2010 4:50:44 AM

Why did you buy a Radeon GPU and a board with an nVidia chipset?
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a b U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 5:50:01 AM

Poisoner said:
Why did you buy a Radeon GPU and a board with an nVidia chipset?

So what is the problem with that?
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a c 153 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 5:54:51 AM

Poisoner said:
Why did you buy a Radeon GPU and a board with an nVidia chipset?


facepalm.

To the OP, my friend has that same PSU, and after he got his GTX 260 he ALWAYS gets a driver crash error and BSOD, we have taken it into shops and I've looked over everthing and couldn't figure anything out. I'm not going to say its the PSU, but the coincidence is there, wattage wise however your PSU is fine yes.

Even though your GPU is brand new does NOT mean it can't be faulty, in fact most bad/dead cards are brand new.
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July 21, 2010 5:58:12 AM

Tamz_msc said:
So what is the problem with that?



Doesn't make that much sense on the day you decide you want another 5770.
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a b U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 5:59:48 AM

If you plan to add another 5770 in the future then you'll have to change your motherboard.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 6:29:47 AM

It does seem a bit silly to get an expensive AM3 SLI motherboard then get an ATI card. An AMD chipset would've been better, cheaper and crossfire capable but I guess it is a bit late to change that. In any case the board should be able to use the HD5770 just fine, just not 2 of them.
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July 21, 2010 3:00:39 PM

IF you have (or could buy for $1.50) a dual 4-pin Molex to 6-pin PCIE, give that a try that over the PSU's 6-pin...

Also, check the CPU's heat-sink assembly for movement. If it rotates more than 5 degrees or so, it may need to be locked down better (or, be replaced with a different model) - a loose heat-sink fan will cause temperature spikes -- while not exactly voltage related, it's easy to over-look and will shut the system down.
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July 21, 2010 3:43:51 PM

Thanks for all the reply's.

Tryed The USB Legacy in BIOS, still crashed.

I knew the MB said nVidia Northbridge, so i thought it wouldn't effect the GPU, and no im not going to get another, only if its to replace this one.

Do you think this is a faulty GPU? cause im not under newegg anymore, not sure if ATI has a free replacement thing.

I've done all temp tests with Speedfan and nothing is getting to hot, my cpu gets 55C at max. GPU tops at 55C, avg. 45-50C which is nothing. But i didn't really know how to put my heatsink on (this is my first computer build) so is it ok to take off and readjust or do i need to add thermal paste if i remove it?
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July 21, 2010 3:48:56 PM

It's probably not the PSU that is causing your error - your power requirements are way less than 700W, even a poor quality 700W PSU can handle it.
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July 21, 2010 4:03:00 PM

I wrote down the BSOD, i dont know if it helps or not

said Display Driver shut down or whatever

Tech:
Stop: 0x00000116(0xfffffa800405C010, 0xfffff88003E06C48, 0x0000...,0x000...2
Atikmpag.sys- Adress fffff88003E06648 Base at fffff88003E00000 4bfe9d00
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a b U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 6:05:46 PM

If you can, I'd just RMA both the video card and the PSU at the same time. But that's just because I'm impatient.

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a c 376 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 11:07:48 PM

Is there a BIOS update for your motherboard? If so I would recommend giving that a go but it is sounding likely to be either a defective card or power supply.
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July 21, 2010 11:27:45 PM

How exactly do i update BIOS? i went to asus and it gave me a .rom file
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July 22, 2010 8:59:13 PM

Updated. Now there is a new screen when i start-up, so maybe i didn't have it updated before. Thanks.

BUT it still BSOD'd twice on the game :[. Not WOW though, and i put graphics to high so that's a good sign, just heroes of newerth keeps freezing.
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