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AMD Phenom II X3 740 or AMD Athlon II X4 640

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Hi i ordered both by mistake ( don t really matter here ),I have to cancel 1 of them .

I have a m2n-e board and i m just wondering if paying 15 more for the 640 is worth it . I m buying a new CPU for gaming .



I have a 8800 gt if it ever matter .

Thx

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both will run fine with your 8800GT. the Phenom II is the overall better CPU, the Athlon II x4 may have four cores but in terms of gaming...its really not an impressive CPU. The athlon II x3 give you the exact same performance for less and Intel E8xxx and i3 dual core CPUs give you better gaming performance.

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Thx was nt sure anymore if Athlon II was better for gaming or not .Looked at so much stuff on CPU yesterday .

I ll go with the x3 then , with some luck i can unlock the 4th core but at least if i ever need to i can Overclock it . Until i decide to change boards that is ( m2n-e was surpassed by CPU it seem ) .

Thx again for quick reply .


p.s For the canadian interested to buy it it s only $88.58CAD ( 104 with taxe and air shipping ) on DirectCanada


Message edited by berserks on 11-11-2010 at 10:03:31 PM
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I would go with the athlon , the extra core will make a difference and they overclock well

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pete3867 wrote :

I would go with the athlon , the extra core will make a difference and they overclock well




care to link any proof of that? or is that your opinion of what you wish to believe is true? as for OC, I have both an athlon II x3 and phenom II x4. they both OC well.

here is the Phenom II x3 720 beating the Athlon II x4 635 in gaming

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/122?vs=83

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^ +1 ...............and the Phenom II x3 740 is a BE and overclocks very well.

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ct1615 wrote :

both will run fine with your 8800GT. the Phenom II is the overall better CPU, the Athlon II x4 may have four cores but in terms of gaming...its really not an impressive CPU. The athlon II x3 give you the exact same performance for less and Intel E8xxx and i3 dual core CPUs give you better gaming performance.


^+1 bro..

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pete3867 wrote :

I would go with the athlon , the extra core will make a difference and they overclock well


calm down youngster...
that's bad advice in this situation.

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not necessarily. depends on what games you'll be playing. have a look at some of the cpu benchmarks here on toms or passmark. the extra core could make a difference in cpu physics heavy games like crysis.

malmental wrote :

calm down youngster...
that's bad advice in this situation.


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jlefebre6001 wrote :

not necessarily. depends on what games you'll be playing. have a look at some of the cpu benchmarks here on toms or passmark. the extra core could make a difference in cpu physics heavy games like crysis.


then get the quad phenom ii and not the quad athlon ii.. :pfff:


Message edited by malmental on 11-12-2010 at 12:53:11 PM
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OP, Please tell us what games and apps are you going to use this computer for as it would give our experts more information and would give you a better advice.

Right now, your 8800 gt will be the bottleneck for either of those cpu.

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yes but right now I'd spend more on the cpu and save for the gpu.
the 8800gt is OK for right this second.
i do agree that it will need to be upgraded..

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IF you are willing to spend on the Athlkon II x4 640,
u should grab this instead at USD95, slightly cheaper than the AM3 Athlon II
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product
Phenom II x4 940BE

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jlefebre6001 wrote :

not necessarily. depends on what games you'll be playing. have a look at some of the cpu benchmarks here on toms or passmark. the extra core could make a difference in cpu physics heavy games like crysis.




Nope, totally incorrect in everything you posted. crysis is a dual core optimized game. you also failed to post a link to any benchmarks to justify what games. as i linked above, the slower specced phenom II x3 beat the athlon II x4 in crysis by 10%. a faster x3 740 would only increase the difference.

here is an Athlon II x3 having the exact same FPS as a x4 in every gaming benchmark
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/112?vs=122


here is a tom's benchmark where the athlon IIx3 gives the exact same FPS as the x4 in every game but Dirt 2. the dual core i3 beats both CPUs in just about every game by the way.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/Components,1/

the phenom II x3 740BE is a better gaming CPU then the athlon II x4 640




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I just put together a rig with a MSI 78GM-P45, AthlonII X4 640, 8800GT, 4 gigs ddr3, WD 1TB Green and Windows XP Pro 32. The Athlon II X4 640 stock runs Great. I have a Zalman 9700 cooler running. And oh yes, my first rig is a MSI 790FX-g70 with Phenom II 965BEC2 OC to 3700, 8 gigs ddr3, Radeon BE 5850 with Intel ssd 80g; Samsung 1 tb spinpoint 3; other rig Asus M477TD with Phenom II 965BEC3oc to 3700 with Radeon5850 BE etc. I know what Phenom IIs are like and I'm telling you the AthlonII X4 640 is a great little chip. Runs cool and runs COD BO just fine.

I have another rig with a Phenom II 720 and it is fast and oc to 4 core 3200 but for most games the 640 gives you a guaranteed 4 core chip plenty fast enough for most games.

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ct1615 wrote :

post a link to any benchmarks to justify what games. as i linked above, the slower specced phenom II x3 beat the athlon II x4 in crysis by 10%. a faster x3 740 would only increase the difference.






Alien Versus Predator, that's the only game I can think of that comes close to not CPU bound
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Just keep the 740, you'll love it. The 740 is a fast 3 core with L3 and might unlock a 4th core if you care to try. I have had the 720 and recently built a 740 based rig for a friend. He added a 6850 and is in love with his configuration. Replace the 8800 when you can and you'll be very happy for a year or so.

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this thread should be close.
OP is a few months old and it sat stagnate for a month as well.

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