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Its been a while, anyone like to help me on my new build?

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August 25, 2010 12:34:22 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: (In the next week or two)

BUDGET RANGE: (Realistically under £1000 but might go a little over if the components are worth it)

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: (Gaming *especially for Diablo III coming out*, Movies/Animé, Internet browsing)

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: (Monitor, Keyboard/Mouse)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: (Scan.co.uk or any other reputable UK based online store)

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: (United Kingdom)

PARTS PREFERENCES: by brand or type (Always liked Gigabyte Graphics Cards but i dont mind as long as its recommended highly)

OVERCLOCKING: Yes (but ive never done it before...eeep)

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes SLI

MONITOR RESOLUTION: (1920x1200)

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: (Really ive decided my old lil pc is about had it and i really want to start from scratch and build up a totally new system, mainly wanting to build it for Diablo III coming out so a system that can run that at high settings and smoothly would be my main goal...even though we don't have the system requirements for it yet D:) 

Ive been doing alot of research on what id like in this new build of mine and was hoping someone more proficient could take a look at it and tell where i might have gone wrong or if any part could be replaced with something a little more better/compatible etc :) 

Here is what I have got so far! :) 

Case: Corsair 800D

M/B : GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R

CPU : Intel Core i7 (930)

RAM : 6Gb Corsair XMS3 DDR3

GPU : 2 x Gigabyte GTX 460 in SLI

PSU : Corsair 850W

I still need some info on HDDs, i was thinking about getting a 60gig SDD drive for the operating system and essential programs and then maybe just a generic 1TB drive for storage, what do you think?

If I have missed out any obvious components please make me aware, its been like 5-6yrs since i last built a PC and im sad to say I haven't been keeping up-to-date with all the new tech as I should have :3

Scan.co.uk are doing an overclocked bundle of pretty much most of what i want here (4th one along from the left) Does it look worth it? Ive never played around with OCing before so perhaps getting an already overclocked card would be worth it, would i need to invest in water cooling though? Thats another thing i want to get into but know little about, if i could cool the components adequately with fans i would rather do so until im a little more comfortable with water cooling.

Anyway im rambling, if anyone can help me with my build here and maybe suggest some better parts and maybe ways to adequately cool an OC system of this type (what fans and how many i need etc.) id be most grateful, im really excited about building this new machine especially with how awesome the corsair case is :) 

Thanks in Advance!

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August 25, 2010 12:36:27 AM

800D is a bad aircooling case, look into an Antec 902 or Haf 922.

If gaming is the most intense thing you'll be doing an i5-760 would offer better performance for less.
August 25, 2010 12:41:12 AM

sp12 said:
800D is a bad aircooling case, look into an Antec 902 or Haf 922.

If gaming is the most intense thing you'll be doing an i5-760 would offer better performance for less.


I would really like to keep the 800D, seeing it for the first time was pretty much the catalyst that started making me want to build a new PC in the first place :p  Im not adverse to Water cooling, if its recommended i would read a hell of alot of guides before it arrives if need be :p 
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August 25, 2010 1:54:15 AM

I have not checked into it properly (only looked at one thermal results page of one review - which showed it only a few degrees at worst behind a HAF 922), but I don't really see how it can be a bad aircooling case, when it has space for 7 fans, and costs quite a lot. I know it gets used a lot for WCing, but that doesn't mean it should only be used for WCing.

I've heard it said that you should not buy overclocked bundles if you don't understand OCing yourself, as the lack of knowledge could be a problem if things go wrong. I worked out the price difference between buying the parts individually and buying them OCed to be ~30 pounds. Which isn't too bad. Judgement call on whether it's worth it to you or not.

Could you make your links clickable please? The main reason I want to click them is to check the prices and tally the whole build up. So if you could edit your original post to make those two changes I'd be grateful.

For a HDD, I'd recommend a Samsung Spinpoint F3, as these are fast and quiet. The typical recommendation for an SSD on here atm seem to be the OCZ Vertex 2 60GB. Which is based on the Sandforce SF-1500 controller. If you don't mind losing the perks of the close relationship between Sandforce and OCZ, which include things like faster firmware releases, then you should see if you can find other drives based on the same controller, by Corsair, etc for cheaper. Personally I still think the 80GB Intel X-25M G2 is the most worthy of recommendation as it has been tried and tested for over a year by now and it has had very few major issues and isn't prone to failure. Which you never know, might happen with a newer, relatively untested drive. Sandforce drives do maintain their performance extremely well even without TRIM tho.

I think that a system with OCed i7-930 and two OCed GTX 460s will only need a 750W PSU. So you can spend a little more getting an 80Plus Gold 750W PSU, or spend less getting 80Plus Silver or Bronze 750W PSU.

Aircooling with be perfectly adequate for your build. It will take a lot of time, dedication and learning to even get to the stage where you could just WC one component.

I also don't really see the need for an X58 build.
August 25, 2010 2:30:04 AM

Cant seem to edit my post so here they are again,

Case: Corsair 800D http://www.scan.co.uk/product.aspx?ProductId=30439

M/B : GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Gigabyte-GA-X58A-UD3R-Rev-2-Intel-X58-S1366-SLi-Xfire-PCI-E-2-DDR3-2200-USB3-and-SATA-6Gb-s

CPU : Intel Core i7 (930) http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Intel-Core-i7-930-D0-SLBKP-Bloomfield-45nm-28-GHz-QPI-48GT-s-8MB-Cache-20x-Ratio-130W-Retail

RAM : 6Gb Corsair XMS3 DDR3 http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?ProductId=27473

GPU : 2 x Gigabyte GTX 460 in SLI http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/1GB-Gigabyte-GTX-460-OC-3600MHz-GDDR5-GPU-715MHz-Shader-Clock-1430MHz-336-Cores-DL-DVI-mHDMI

PSU : Corsair 850W http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/850W-Corsair-CMPSU-850HXUK-ATX-EPS12V-Modular-UK-Version-7-Year-Warranty

Also, if you really think i should go with a different (i.e better) build, please say so, id rather get experienced advice and base my choices on that, than go with a build I thought was decent but really isn't

Thanks for the help, i really appreciate it :) 
August 25, 2010 2:35:41 AM

I really think you should go with a P55 i5-760 build. It will save you at least 200USD in mobo+CPU+ram, while costing you somewhere around 1-3% performance in a SLI setup.

Beyond that, I don't know the scheme of UK pricing so I can't really comment on specific current values.
August 25, 2010 3:14:08 AM

Okay ive gone and did a little changing, what do you guys think of this? :3

Case: Corsair 800D http://www.scan.co.uk/product.aspx?ProductId=30439

M/B : Asus P7P55D-E http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?ProductId=32003

CPU : Intel Core i5 760 http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?ProductId=38206

RAM : 4Gb Corsair XMS3 DDR3 http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?ProductId=30579

GPU : 2 x Gigabyte GTX 460 in SLI http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/1GB-Gigabyte-GTX-460-OC-3600MHz-GDDR5-GPU-715MHz-Shader-Clock-1430MHz-336-Cores-DL-DVI-mHDMI

PSU : CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/750W-Corsair-CMPSU-750TX-SLi-Single-12V-Rail-Quiet-and-Cool-80plus-Eff


Do you think i should change the 2 x 460s for a better single card? Ive heard that sli still has some issues, and it would be nice to just have a better single card then get another one when i feel the need too :)  Any recommendations?

Thanks again!
August 25, 2010 4:40:37 AM

Sorry for Double Posting but it wont let me edit my posts :3

Okay ive been at this for hours now and i think ive come up with a final build that id really like some feedback on because im thinking about even ordering all the parts tonight :) 

Okay ive gone and did a little changing, what do you guys think of this? :3

Case: Corsair 800D http://www.scan.co.uk/product.aspx?ProductId=30439

M/B : Asus P7P55D-E http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?ProductId=32003

CPU : Intel Core i5 760 http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?ProductId=38206

RAM : 4Gb Corsair XMS3 DDR3 http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?ProductId=30579

GPU : Zotac GTX 470 http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/1280MB-Zotac-GTX-470-40nm-3348MHz-GDDR5-GPU-607MHz-Shader-1215MHz-448-Cores-2x-DVI-mini-HDMI

PSU : CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/750W-Corsair-CMPSU-750TX-SLi-Single-12V-Rail-Quiet-and-Cool-80plus-Eff


How many fans do you think will be needed for this set-up? baring in mind the CPU is going to be already overclocked to 4ghz, i dont want to get this awesome new set-up then fry it cause im not cooling it right :3

Anyway! id love some feedback on this build please, ill be here f5ing away :) 
August 25, 2010 5:40:56 PM

That motherboard is not capable of SLI ie the second PCI-E 2.0 x16 slot will only run at x4, which is likely to have a large impact on performance. This is the cheapest motherboard with SLI/CF and SATA6G/USB3: MSI P55A G55 £93. This one would probably be a bit better at OCing: MSI P55 GD65 £113, but doesn't have SATA6G/USB3. The only reason you should get a motherboard more expensive than this is if you want or need two PCI-E lanes at x16: Asus P7P55D-E Pro £140.

Corsair sell good PSUs. But I'd get any of these over that Corsair TX 750:
SilverPower Gorilla SP-SS-750M 80Plus Silver £95
Antec Truepower New TP750 80Plus Bronze £96
Silverstone Strider ST75F-P 750W 80Plus Silver £96
GTX 470s consume a bit more power than 460s, so you should be aware that a system with an OCed i5-760 and two OCed GTX 470s would need an 850W PSU imo.

I don't know what fans come with the case or where they are installed. But I would make sure that you have at least one intake and a rear and top exhaust to start off with. Then I'd suggest checking your temps and if you aren't happy with them, then buy more/better fans and fill the case up with them.
August 25, 2010 10:57:47 PM

Okay im all done, through a series of trials and errors and nicely priced bundles ive come to this build and i ordered it today! :D  Thanks for all the help, i hope i got it right this time :) 

Case: Corsair 800D

M/B : Asus P7P55D-E PRO

CPU : Intel Core i5 760

RAM : 4Gb Corsair Dominator DDR3

GPU : Zotac GTX 470

PSU : Corsair 850W HX

OS HDD: 40GB SSD OCZ Vertex 2E

I know i shouldnt ask now that its already ordered but....this is a decent build right? :3
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