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GTX 460 1GB Decisions.....

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July 21, 2010 3:57:48 AM

Alright, definately looking to upgrade my GPU and i'm at a crossroads in my decision. Figured you knowledgeable people could help a little bit....

EVGA 01G-P3-1373-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Superclocked EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
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MSI N460GTX CYCLONE 1GD5/OC GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5

i have a factory HP pavilion a6245n case with factory cooling. which one do you think would offer better temps considering i'm not like most with a cooler master case. i like to think i have good airflow.

another thing, i know External Exhaust (EVGA's version) blows hot air out of the back of the slot - but who exactly does this benefit? people with exceptional airflow and cooler masters, or just everyone in general would gain some better temps?

thanks for any help, just want to know the little details before i drop 250 bucks on it.

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a c 236 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 4:04:20 AM

both your links go directly to the newegg.ca home page, you can just name the two cards you are looking at

*FYI, you didn't do anything wrong. newegg.ca just does not work with product links
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a c 153 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 4:04:28 AM

Your links didn't work, just post the names of the cards for us. E.G...

EVGA 01G-P3-1373-AR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Superclocked EE 1GB
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July 21, 2010 4:13:08 AM

damn .ca links... fixed it, thanks for noticing.
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a c 236 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 4:16:45 AM

the cyclone, i have the 768mb version. its whisper silent and won't break 50c at load. idles at 33c.
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a c 153 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 4:18:24 AM

^+1, I love EVGA, but I heard the Cyclone has a great cooling solution.
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a c 259 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 4:22:52 AM

I am waiting on the eVGA version to become available here in the US myself. I have had 5 of their cards in a row and loved them all.
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July 21, 2010 4:25:38 AM

fan noise doesn't really bother me since i have DJ/gaming headphones - but i don't want to sit next to a jet taking off either. with all noise aside and just thinking of a factory case with not nearly the circulation top end cases offer, the cyclone would be the better bet then?
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a c 259 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 4:29:03 AM

Not in my opinion. You would probably be better off exhausting as much heat from your case as you can since you already have limited airflow. If you had a gaming case this would not matter as much. But the GTX 460 is not a thermal reactor like the other 4xx series cards so you will probably be fine either way. Both are great cards.
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a c 236 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 4:35:30 AM

the evga runs a good deal warmer, not hot but its not the cyclone.
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a c 259 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 4:40:43 AM

EVGA also has higher base clocks. I would like to see them at identical clocks to be sure. Although eVGA only has an Nvidia reference cooler and MSI already has their own solution. I have not seen any MSI reviews but the eVGA was the best overclocker of any card without voltage control in several reviews I have read.
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July 21, 2010 4:44:11 AM

hrmm... do they both have a max load temp of 104? starting to lean towards the cyclone =/
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a c 236 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 4:53:19 AM

anort3 said:
EVGA also has higher base clocks. I would like to see them at identical clocks to be sure. Although eVGA only has an Nvidia reference cooler and MSI already has their own solution. I have not seen any MSI reviews but the eVGA was the best overclocker of any card without voltage control in several reviews I have read.


768 review
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3392/msi_geforce_gtx_4...

The EVGA has a slight advantage on OC. Ive seen sites get it up near 850 on stock voltage. On my MSI i need a slight increase to voltage but on stock I can hit 825. Both numbers are far higher then the 675 stock setting. You do pay more for it on heat and noise on the EVGA.

I've owned EVGA cards before, they are fine.
I've had XFX card with Zalman HSF
Asus cards with Glaciator HSF
MSI with Twin Frozr HSF
and reference HSF from many others

the cyclone is easily the best HSF I have owned on a card in both lack of noise and cooling.
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a b U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 4:54:01 AM

I personally just just got a EVGA 1gb EE not the superclocked. personally because i love EVGA. but i would actually recommend the MSI, simply because of the afterburn. gpu overclocking is simply slider movement, and right now MSI one of the few vender with voltage mods, plz don't buy a factory overclocked card. i pulled my card out of the box today and immediately, pushed it to 836mhz core, and 1074mhz memory clocks
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July 21, 2010 4:55:25 AM

so to overclock the msi you simply move the slider software and that's it? there is nothing else involved?
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a c 236 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 4:57:38 AM

yeah, the lock the core clock and shader clock together. on my GTS250, i could OC them separately. Memory you can OC separately.
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a c 153 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 5:00:20 AM

jonnyboyC said:
I personally just just got a EVGA 1gb EE not the superclocked. personally because i love EVGA. but i would actually recommend the MSI, simply because of the afterburn. gpu overclocking is simply slider movement, and right now MSI one of the few vender with voltage mods, plz don't buy a factory overclocked card. i pulled my card out of the box today and immediately, pushed it to 836mhz core, and 1074mhz memory clocks


You can't use Afterburn with the EVGA cards? I use Afterburn with mine... unless thats not what you meant.
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a c 236 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 5:03:18 AM

afterburner will work with just about any card



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July 21, 2010 5:03:25 AM

so another question i should have added. my mobo is a Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600@2.4ghz, if i OC this gpu would i have any bottlenecking issues?
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a c 236 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 5:05:43 AM

depends on the game but 2.4ghz is rather slow for modern games. those that are dual core specific games, you are basically running a dual core @ 2.4ghz. Luckily the Q6600 is a great OC and can hit 3.0+ghz easily.
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a b U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 5:10:01 AM

well for the 470's and 480's msi afterburn works but the voltage is controlled differently on 460's
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a c 259 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 5:10:43 AM

Depending on motherboard and cooling 3.4 is actually pretty easy with a Q6600 :) 
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a c 259 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 5:15:33 AM

I think the one advantage to buying factory overclocked versions especially as new as the 460 is would be that they would be cherry picked for the best of the bunch.
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a b U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 5:27:41 AM

I don't think there is any cherry picking going on. Nvidia is advertising(more or less) they will all do 800 or more, right out of the box. A present for us. :) 
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a c 153 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 5:42:32 AM

jonnyboyC said:
well for the 470's and 480's msi afterburn works but the voltage is controlled differently on 460's


I figured thats what you meant, but I wasn't sure.
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a b U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 7:06:48 AM

Stick with Asus, EVGA, and MSI, as they offer voltage tweaking and I believe they all cover it under warranty (I know MSI does).
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