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July 21, 2010 6:51:54 AM

Hi folks, Woke up this morning to a suspected dead gfx card, an old 8800gt on this mobo Gigabyte S775 Intel P35. It says its pci-e x16 but most cards i can find in my price range are pci-e 2.0 am i stuffed for a decent gfx card now?.
My budget is about £125 ish and i mainly play mmos like ddo on a native 1440x900 monitor.
Cheers for any help you can give.
Fruitbat

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a c 153 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 6:54:22 AM

A PCI-e 2.0 card will work in a PCI-e 1.0 slot.
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a c 191 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 7:50:46 AM

+1 Helltech.

I doubt you'll need to spend that much to replace a 8800GT though. The card linked by Jyjjy has plenty of merits: Inexpensive, cool, quiet and a decent upgrade to boot, all for less than 100 drinking vouchers :) 
But if you are not too concerned with the latest tech and DX11 there are some cracking bargains around as various E-tailers flog off their 'obsolete' stock of DX 10 cards.
A few other places to search: Microdirect, Dabs, Ebuyer, CCL, Scan and Misco, although ther are plenty of others.
This chart will show you how each card relates in general performance:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-radeon-hd-geforce-...

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July 21, 2010 10:43:31 AM

Thanks for all the speedy responses the £99 card looks just the job and that chart is really handy mine was actualy an 8800 gts so its about time for an upgrade any way :) 

+1 to all of you

Now i just have to grind some wife rep and claw that credit card from her purse.

Fruitbat

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Is there much real difference between a 5750 and a 5770?

Also how does either compare to a gts 250? its on same part of the comparison list as the 5750 and i found one for £97. On looking at specs its only DX10 and shader model 4.0 so it dosent look as appealing or am i under estimating it?

Which ever card i get has to last a good 2-3 years so dx11 sounds like a better plan to me. thoughts?
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July 21, 2010 5:20:16 PM

Fruitbat said:
Thanks for all the speedy responses the £99 card looks just the job and that chart is really handy mine was actualy an 8800 gts so its about time for an upgrade any way :) 

+1 to all of you

Now i just have to grind some wife rep and claw that credit card from her purse.

Fruitbat

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Is there much real difference between a 5750 and a 5770?

Also how does either compare to a gts 250? its on same part of the comparison list as the 5750 and i found one for £97. On looking at specs its only DX10 and shader model 4.0 so it dosent look as appealing or am i under estimating it?

Which ever card i get has to last a good 2-3 years so dx11 sounds like a better plan to me. thoughts?


There are only 3 or 4 games which use DX11 now. Most still use 9 or 10. The 11 ones are still backward compatible. Just Cause 2 is the only DX10 only game out there.
The difference between a 5770 and a 5750 is like the difference between a 4870 running normal clocks and set at 600/450. Which is roughly 50-60%. Crysis just barely manages 25-30 at 600/450. Goes upto 40+ at ddefault. Take a 5770- bettwer. And what's the size of your screen?
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July 21, 2010 5:21:31 PM

And a 4850 is about as fast as a GTS250. ~10% faster than your 8800GT.
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July 21, 2010 6:55:52 PM

Firstly id like to say a huge thanks to all of you for the great advice and info provided.

Secondly i have just managed to get hold of a friend with a spare pc to swap bits out from and definitive tests now confirm PSU is at fault not the gfx card. This morn when it happened everything pointed to gfx as all drives/fans/lights powered up as normal but monitor said no signal.

Fortunately i got it from Dabs and checked the original order and it falls just inside the 3 year warranty YES! However there 'return faulty goods' button is wrongly coded to 'return unwanted goods within 7 days' and i cant proceed with return until i can get hold of them to point this out.

However all the advice might not be in vain if i can convince the wife it took the gfx card down with it :) 


Madass. And what's the size of your screen?
19" iiyama widescreen 1440x900 native res.


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a c 376 U Graphics card
July 21, 2010 10:48:36 PM

For your resolution the card I linked should be very good. The HD4850 or GTS 250 would be fine as well. I linked the HD5750 because it is slightly faster than those, uses much less power, DX11 and well within your stated budget. An HD5770 would be nice but it is kind of overkill except when maxing out the settings of the most intensive games and it is more than you said you wanted to spend. Here is a chart that is a good general guide to the performance of various cards at your current resolution;

The resolution isn't exactly the same as yours(it is very slightly higher) but it is close enough.
You say the card is actually an 8800GTS but you didn't say which version which is important. The 512mb version of the card is much better than the 320 or 640mb versions. The 512mb is actually about equal to the HD4850 above while the others are closer to the GT 240/9600GT area.
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July 22, 2010 6:24:03 AM

Ah yes its a 8800gts 320mb version and to be honest im really suprised its lasted this well as i've had it 3 years now! I think pc tech is plateauing a little and performance gains arent obsoleting old hardware as fast as it used to. I started with a 486 dx2 66, 8mb ram, 2x cd-rom, 512k graphics 2d only and 540mb hdd for about £1200 and have upgraded ever since. Does it count as the same machine as i still have the original floppy drive?

Back on topic
With the 8800 im getting to the point where i cant always ramp it up to max anymore (never could with crysis, not that im bitter!) so I hope a decent gfx card will see me through a couple more years with this rig at least as i think the rest is fairly ok spec for what i do with it. MMO's RPG;s and the odd bout of supreme commander.

edit: I found a 5770 for about £125 somewhere and wondered if it was worth £25 for the performance boost.
But from what you have said i think a 5750 should be fine.


My setup is as follows

Q6600 2.4ghz quad-core not OC
Corsair Memory 4x1GB 240-Pin DIMM XMS2-6400 CL5
Gigabyte S775 Intel P35
XFX GeForce 8800GTS 320MB DDR3
OCZ Technology StealthXStream 600W <--------DEAD AS A DOOR NAIL
iiyama E1900WS 19" widescreen 1440x900
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a c 376 U Graphics card
July 22, 2010 6:33:45 AM

Probably still has the floppy drive because you stopped really using it over a decade ago :p 
The HD5750 is a good choice. If you may upgrade to a higher resolution before getting a new card or want something more likely to last you another 3 years at your current resolution then spending a little more for an HD5770 is a good idea. Or if you want to go for broke the GTX 460 is a nice card at a good price but it is really overkill for your current monitor.
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July 22, 2010 7:06:27 AM

Your probably right :) 

I think the 5770 is the one to go for for long term performance, its at top of my limit but you neve know what might change later on.
As for the monitor I think im stuck with that until it breaks really, its only got VGA input but it was a gift so i cant complain esp as it replaced a 21" CRT!!!

cheers again for all your help, I knew Toms was the place to come back to for my tech needs :) 
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July 29, 2010 6:47:24 AM

Best answer selected by fruitbat.
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