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August 25, 2010 12:57:22 PM

[EDIT: Added links to newegg.com]

(See below for my queries)

After a week's research, i think i am ready to compile a list.

The average temperature here in summer is 40C and in winters is 25C (daytime). I dont want to overclock CPU. The GPU available to me is already over clocked so it should not be a problem since it is factory over clocked. As for memory, thats my query, can i run those memories at 1333/1600 rates? (See below for all my queries)

Only brands available to me are AMD, Intel, ASUS, EVGA, XFX, HIS, INNO3D, Coolermaster, Corsair, Kingston, WD, Seagate.

Here is the reference site - for availability of components only, dont go for prices, they are in PKR: http://www.galaxy.com.pk/main-forms/basic-home-main.htm


Setup 1 (Intel 1208$/EVGA 1288/ASUS 1218$)
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Intel® Core™ i7-870 Processor (8M Cache, 2.93 GHz) - 290 $
COOLER MASTER (COOLING SOLUTION) HYPER 212 PLUS - 30 $
INTEL DP55WG - 150 $ / EVGA P55FTW - 230 $ / ASUS P7P55D-E EVO - 160 $
COOLER MASTER CHASSIS CM 690II PLUS - 70 $
COOLER MASTER (COOLING SOLUTION) CASE FAN RED LED 120mm (x8) - 9.75x8 = 78 $
SEAGATE 750GB 3.5" HDD 7200RPM 32MB Cache x2 - 70x2= 140 $
CORSAIR XMS3 DDR3 TWIN KIT 2X4096-1333 (2GBx2) - 90 $
COOLER MASTER 700 WATTS SILENT PRO (RS-700-AMBA-D3) (12V / 50A) - 110 $
GTX460 GeForce PCX 1GB (733-BITS) GDDR5 - 250 $


Setup 2 (~ 1353$ / ~1388$)
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INTEL CORE i7 930 2.8Ghz (8MB CACHE - 4.8 GT/s) - 290 $
COOLER MASTER (COOLING SOLUTION) HYPER 212 PLUS - 30 $
INTEL DX58SO - 230 $ / ASUS P6T INTEL X58+ICH10R ~ 230 $
COOLER MASTER CHASSIS CM 690II PLUS - 70 $
COOLER MASTER (COOLING SOLUTION) CASE FAN RED LED 120mm (x8) - 9.75x8 = 78 $
SEAGATE 750GB 3.5" HDD 7200RPM 32MB Cache x2 - 70x2= 140 $
CORSAIR XMS3 DDR3 TRIKIT 3X6G-1600 (2GBX3) - 155 $ / CORSAIR DOMINATOR DDR3 TRIKIT 3X6G-1600 (2GBX3) - 190 $
COOLER MASTER 700 WATTS SILENT PRO (RS-700-AMBA-D3) (12V / 50A) - 110 $
GTX460 GeForce PCX 1GB (733-BITS) GDDR5 - 250 $





Queries
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For Q1 and Q2: I need to make sure that if, in future, i use 2nd graphics card (GTX460) as SLI then there is sufficient space in motherboard (also for heat flow)

1. [Setup 1] Which motherboard should i select for Setup 1? (Select from INTEL DP55WG/ EVGA P55FTW /ASUS P7P55D-E EVO)
I am leaning towards ASUS P7P55D-E EVO.

2. [Setup 2] Which motherboard should i select for Setup 2? (Select from INTEL DX58SO / ASUS P6T INTEL X58+ICH10R)
I am leaning towards ASUS P6T INTEL X58+ICH10R

3. [Setup 2] Will using 3X6G-1600 (2GBX3) memory be a risk for the PC? If yes, can i use on lower speed?

4. [Setup 2] Can i use CORSAIR XMS3 DDR3 TRIKIT 3X6G-1600 (2GBX3) in 1066 mode (if i dont want to overclock)?

5. [Setup 2] Should i buy CORSAIR DOMINATOR DDR3 TRIKIT 3X6G-1600 (2GBX3) by giving 45$ for DOMINATOR heat sinks?

6. Is Setup 1 better or Setup 2? I have mixed feelings since Setup 1 gives better performance on 1x GPU. But when SLI is used (which i will - in like after 3/4 years in future) then Setup 2 takes a great lead.
I am leaning towards Setup 1 (ASUS).

7. Any other bottlenecks i am missing? (dont mention RAID0 or SSD, i am not confident with them)



Thanks in advance

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August 25, 2010 4:51:14 PM

Well, not to be mean, i know that it can be a little weird building ur first system but.. be a little more confident, everything will go fine. And if you are spending this much on a PC and not overclocking, there is no point. Because you can get something that's like 100-300 dollars better w/o really getting it, just by overclocking. At least overclock in the future.

What is this PC for? Once we know that we can give you better answers.

Assuming it's purely for gaming, you don't need an i7 1366, go with an 1156 i5 750 or i7 870.
It may sound weird, but never go with Intel motherboards made by Intel , they are lacking quality and are junk really. Go with a nice board like this.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and search around for some others. Good brands like MSI, Gigabyte and Asus.

More storage and faster hard drive, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Very nice G.Skill ram, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LOL @ FANS XD Do you realize how LOUD that is gonna be?????? You don't need all of them. Go with 1-3 extra and if you feel its not enough lights and noise add extra XD

Have you thought of going with an AMD configuration? They have some nice CPUs out right now and you can upgrade to the new bulldozer/bobcat CPUs next year, they will be Kickass IMO! Just a suggestion. The good thing with AMD is that they have the best bang for the buck and they don't go through all the sockets like Intel does, the new CPUs are compatible with AM2, AM2+, AM3 so you could put an AM3 CPU on an AM2 and will be the same with the new CPUs 80% sure, AMD said it.. but now they arent so IDK 100%


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August 25, 2010 11:48:09 PM

My PC is for gaming

Thanks Mr Pizza.
From what i know, intel is currently leading by a great margin.

If i buy this PC then i will use it atleast 5 years (with the addition of another GPU sometime and PS replacement)

I am going for System 1 with ASUS board (it provides little USB3.0 too ;) ) and reduced counts of extra fans.

I dont have access to MSI (Intel), Samsung HDD neither of third brand (the memory)

Now my main concerns are compatibility issues. Like, is the chassis ok for this ASUS board? Will the GFX Card fit in it (and will two fit in future)? Any problems would occur due to CM CPU Fan?
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August 26, 2010 10:59:34 AM

Just inform me if my selected chassis is OK?
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August 26, 2010 11:58:21 AM

I'd stick with Intel for your setup, and I'd personally go with option 2. You're going to see better performance with the X58/1366 chipset.

Also, I've heard of some issues with Corsair's RAM and X58 chipsets; Intel's CPUs can handle "only" 1066 MHz RAM, so you have to manually set the speed in your BIOS, but Corsair's memory has issues doing that from what I've heard. I'd go with Kingston, Patriot, and even G.Skill like Mr Pizza suggested (pretty good RAM, lower prices usually).

Also, I agree with Mr Pizza when he says don't use an Intel Motherboard. DEFINITELY go with a Gigabyte, ASUS, EVGA, etc. ASUS tends to make the best hardware out of all of them. And just check the number of PCI-Express x16 slots to see if you can handle multiple GPUs (obviously, you just need more than one).

I don't know anything about Cooler Master PSUs; I'd recommend Corsair, Antec, Seasonic. There's an XFX Black Edition 750W PSU that's made by Seasonic, and it's modular and only costs $120. Great reviews.
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August 26, 2010 11:58:29 AM

I agree with Mr. Pizza, mostly.

Mr Pizza said:

It may sound weird, but never go with Intel motherboards made by Intel , they are lacking quality and are junk really.

Intel builds good, solid motherboards. Most of us don't like them because they tend to be poor overclockers, which is very different from the quality issues.

boiler, CM PSU's tend to be over-rated junk. Also pay attention to where goodboy is. He is in Pakistan. A lot of the really good PSU brands simply are not available there.
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August 26, 2010 11:59:41 AM

Oh, and your chassis will work, but mid-towers are always a tight squeeze for ATX boards. I have an Antec 300 mid and it's a bit stuffed, though it's a smaller mid tower.
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August 26, 2010 11:31:45 PM

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August 26, 2010 11:44:59 PM

Thanks to all, my final thoughts are

~ 1000 - 1100$
Intel® Core™ i7-870 Processor (8M Cache, 2.93 GHz) - 2/2/4/5
COOLER MASTER (COOLING SOLUTION) HYPER 212 PLUS
ASUS (INTEL) P7P55D INTEL P55-2133FSB O.C (LGA1156-SND+LAN DDR3) 2x PCX SLOT
COOLER MASTER CHASSIS CM 690II PLUS
COOLER MASTER (COOLING SOLUTION) CASE FAN RED LED 120mm (x4)
SEAGATE 750GB 3.5" HDD 7200RPM 32MB Cache (ST3750528AS)
SEAGATE 750GB 3.5" HDD 7200RPM 32MB Cache (ST3750528AS)
CORSAIR XMS3 DDR3 TWIN KIT 2X4096-1333 (2GBx2) XMS3 DUAL MEMORY KIT DDR3
COOLER MASTER 600 WATTS SILENT PRO (RS-600-AMBA-D3) (12V / 40A)
GTX460 GeForce PCX 1GB (256-BITS) GDDR5

Near future upgrade
INTEL X25-V SOLID STATE DRIVE 80GB (SSDSA2MJ080G2C1) 21000
CORSAIR XMS3 DDR3 TWIN KIT 2X4096-1333 (2GBx2) XMS3 DUAL MEMORY KIT DDR3 11000

Far future upgrade
Over clocking of CPU
GTX460 GeForce PCX 1GB (256-BITS) GDDR5
ASUS (INTEL) P7P55D-E EVO P55-2200FSB O.C (LGA1156-SND+LAN) DDR3) 2x PCX SLOT
And the required PSU
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