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August 26, 2010 12:02:20 PM

I'm planning on making a new computer sometime during black friday or christmas (collecting parts as they come cheap)

I know my stuff and I look up benchmarks when I decide what to get but there can be things I miss and deals I might not realize would help me in building my new rig.

When I first set out to compile a list of parts for my new rig it looked like this:
1055T AMD six-core / Phenom 965 black edition 3.4ghz
Asus crosshair IV formula motherboard
4gb ddr3 ram
500gb - 1tb HDD
64gb SSD
850w Gamexstream OCZ PSU
4890 ati radeon (xfx?) CF/SLI gt 240
antec 900 two black steel


Now the problem I've encountered is that I thought the crosshair IV formula utilized hydra solution, however it turns out to be the unreleased crosshair IV extreme. I wanted to sli the gt 240 because I got that and the 850w in a shell shocker deal for $70 tax included after rebate. (now it'll probably go into a future HTPC)

After researching further into benchmarks for cpu's I've decided on a new rig
i5-750/760 intel
MSI motherboard P55 (haven't decided which)
500gb - 1tb HDD
64gb SSD
850w Gamexstream OCZ PSU
5770 HD (possible CF)
Case?
prolimatech Heatsink/ Zalman Heatsink

I've become more and more indecisive with parts as I kept looking. The i5-750 clearly outperformed the 965 and that outperformed the 1055T so yeah. I'm not sure which case to get anymore. I'm hoping to build my computer at $700 which at this point seems unrealistic as the CPU, Graphics card, and motherboard would be hitting $500 at minimum (hoping to grab some more parts for cheap during black friday).

I will be attempting to overclock all these which explains the 850w. (I originally was going to get a kingwin modular 750w until i saw the shell shocker). I have no clue about overclocking except from some things that I've read. Right now guides still look like rocket science to me. I understand about clock rates and stuff but theres still things I don't understand such as why Vcore needs to be raised and by what ratio. Also things like FSB (I know means front side bus) drive me nuts as I don't know their significance.

To put short, in terms of bang for the buck (keeping in mind I will be overclocking) whats best? Is it possible to make my rig for $700?

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a b B Homebuilt system
August 26, 2010 12:19:43 PM

You can also postpone the SSD if you are tight on budget.
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August 26, 2010 12:21:27 PM

how is the msi board for overclocking? The reasons I wanted the crosshair IV was cause I thought it had the hydra chipset and its suppose to make overclocking a breeze. Then theres the issue of the cpu. Would you suggest the 965 black over the i5-760? I've read multiple threads and benchmark where the i5 was better, and they're around the same price.
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 26, 2010 12:38:28 PM

If you like the i5 750 then just grab it. i7 750 and X4 965 are not too difference, that is why the price is almost the same.

Crosshair is made definitely to be OCed.
For the 1156, I would choose gigabyte GA-P55A-UD5. That one is a good OCer and have about the same price as Crosshair IV.
The MSI P55? I don't know which one, but if you mean the big bang P55 fuzion or trinergy, than yes. it is also good for OC.
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August 26, 2010 1:17:38 PM

definitely not the big bang. Although it has everything i need including hydra, its just WAY to expensive for just the motherboard. Theres quite an abundant list of p55 boards from msi. Not sure which one to get if i do get one from them. Which would you pick? the 750 or the 965?
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 26, 2010 1:38:12 PM

Which one? hmmm....
Both is good. Since you have that i5 750 is better than 965 (altought not much)...let put the decision..get the i5 750. This way you won't regret the decision.
(I won't say further, so that it won't confuse you)

About the mobo, you said crosshair is too expensive. MSI P55-GD80 P55 seems nice but how much are you willing to spend on it?
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August 26, 2010 1:42:48 PM

200 at most for the motherboard. Less on the motherboard means more for my gpu. Well honestly more like 100 - 150 for a p55. The only motherboard I was willing to spend 200 on was the crosshair
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August 26, 2010 6:21:09 PM

blah i guess i'll be going at the 965? As much as I'd like to get the i5 (never tried intel before), intel is replacing their LGA set and I'd be out of upgrading options in a year. damnit.
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 26, 2010 6:39:07 PM

Hahahahahaha... :D 
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August 26, 2010 7:28:43 PM

I can't seem to find any 890FX chipset boards that sport sli. Am I missing any? After looking up benchmarks for the gtx 460, my god that thing is fast. Although I wont be sli'ing at the moment, I'd like to keep my options open for later down the road when they get cheaper.
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August 26, 2010 8:37:42 PM

Most likely I'll wait since I'm upgrading in christmas time anyways. Just want all my things set out so I can buy them as deals come.
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August 27, 2010 4:30:15 AM

Does anyone know which chipset is good for the phenom 965 black edition? Does the 980 perform better then the 870fx?
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 27, 2010 6:28:07 PM

the 980i is an Nvidia chipset.

the 870 is an AMD chipset.

pick the 980i if you want to do SLI

Pick the 870FX if you are going to crossfire
and go to an AMD 785 or 770 Extreme ifyou are doing a single card
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August 27, 2010 8:35:03 PM

also, just confirming that I'm sure. After taking 5 mins to locate it on the board I found what appears to be a 8pin slot for the cpu power. However in the picture it looks like its covered and only a 4pin. That is indeed a 8pin correct?(anyone who would be kind enough to take a look for me) Would suck if it would only supply a 4pin to the mobo ;[
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August 30, 2010 10:58:03 AM

oooo makes sense.


K NEW QUESTION.

Right now the gtx 460 192bit gddr5 768mb is being sold on chiefvalue.com for $135.99 after applying a EVGA $10 rebate found on newegg. My question is should i wait for christmas to upgrade or are these prices just too good? Anyone familiar with GPU pricing can help me out here?

Also a concern with that version is it is 192bit and 768mb of vram although it might not be a problem since I have a 19inch monitor and max resolution is only 1440x900. If I do get these I plan on doing SLI or running them to hydra if the performance boost is greater. Total would be $301 after rebate.

Things to note
- I am getting the MSI fuzion AM3 board with the hydra chipset, however, it has only 2 pci-e 16x slots. This would mean my new gt 240 would be useless (even though its pretty weak). Should I just get one and wait for the prices to drop in the future and sli then? (Run gt 240 with the gtx 460 now and then upgrade in the future)

- Main question is will the prices drop below this or near this price in christmas or black friday for this model or a better model? Example (GTX 460 1gb 256bit or 512bit for say 160)


EDIT: also new question/ My psu is a OCZ 850W gamexstream as noted in OP. Can it handle SLIing GTX 460's? I know it has only 2 6pin pci-e connectors, but there are adapters for 4 molex pins. The issue is that I read somewhere that theres the issue of both pci-e slots being connected to 1 rail and there wouldn't be sufficient power running to the cards. Starting to wonder if this deal was a deal at all >.<
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a b B Homebuilt system
September 1, 2010 1:18:24 AM

First of all, that price is super low - I'd buy one or two right now if I could find them... I've never heard of that website, but it seems legit enough.

On that resolution, even a single 460 should be enough to max out most games. You could always add in a second one later, but like I said, that price is really low. I doubt they will go down lower than that ever.

And your PSU is TONS for a pair of 460s. I have an OCZ 700w one for SLI GTX 275s (which take quite a bit more power than 460s).
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September 1, 2010 7:07:17 AM

well the thing is cause I've been reading up and honestly I feel like the 850w i have is a piece of crap in most regards. Also the deal died. I was waiting for a response from anyone on the forum for advice and the deal ended up dieing lol
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September 1, 2010 7:13:17 AM

oh btw which mode was your 700w? if it was a single rail thats the reason why it can run sli 460s
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