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August 26, 2010 10:01:14 PM

Hi, I'm assembling a build for slightly under 2k canadian :) 

I know what I want to get but need some advice,

I am getting an i7 930 2.93ghz, I will overclock it a bit but how will this relate to my 2200mhz RAM? will there be a bottle neck? will 2200 be significantly faster than 2000 if at all?

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Please advise me this is the first time I have done this,

I need to please know what items I have payed to much for/what items are underpowered and if everything is compatible (especially psu wise)

Thankyou so much for the help, :bounce:  :bounce:  :bounce: 

(Sorry for the english, it is not my mother language :ange:  )

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August 26, 2010 10:40:25 PM

There is very little application performance difference between RAM speeds. DDR3-1600 or DDR3-1333 with tight timings (cas7) are the best price/performance. You only gain a few percent going to much more expensive RAM.

If you dont need more than 4GB RAM, installing 8 will only use extra power and create extra heat. What are you doing that needs more than 4GB?

RAM fans dont do much. Never seen an article testing them that actually recommended anyone get one.

That motherboard is very expensive and massive overkill. There are many good quality motherboards under $200 that will serve you just as well.

You might be better served with a pair of 460 1GB or a 5870 or even 5970. A 470 is a bit under-powered relative to an i7 930, especially if you overclock it a bit.
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August 26, 2010 11:13:56 PM

++^ Would only note that the user has not specified what screen resolution he will be using, and we are assuming its for gaming. One 460 may well be enough lol. And that the links don't work for me :( 
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August 26, 2010 11:17:16 PM

My recommendations are assuming its a gaming machine. If its not then please specify your usage and Ill change them.

Twoboxer said:
And that the links don't work for me :( 
Youve been banished by Canada! :ouch: 

No great loss really. ;) 
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August 26, 2010 11:38:49 PM

^ ROFL. Funny, I always liked Canada :) 
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August 26, 2010 11:54:23 PM

dndhatcher said:
There is very little application performance difference between RAM speeds. DDR3-1600 or DDR3-1333 with tight timings (cas7) are the best price/performance. You only gain a few percent going to much more expensive RAM.

If you dont need more than 4GB RAM, installing 8 will only use extra power and create extra heat. What are you doing that needs more than 4GB?

RAM fans dont do much. Never seen an article testing them that actually recommended anyone get one.

That motherboard is very expensive and massive overkill. There are many good quality motherboards under $200 that will serve you just as well.

You might be better served with a pair of 460 1GB or a 5870 or even 5970. A 470 is a bit under-powered relative to an i7 930, especially if you overclock it a bit.


I will be using it for gaming, are there better CAS timings commonly available? I want to future proof this rig so 8GB of ram would be useful especially if I want to run bleeding edge games with ridiculous mods (SMP 2.5). As time goes on I can always add another 470 if I really need the performance or simply add an SSD which is a HUGE boost, are you sure that a 470 isn't enough for gaming? I am served well by my 8800GTX and a 470 should be a big jump. do you see a big bottle neck though and is everything compatible? :o 
This is my first time and if I order an incompatible item i'm screwed.

I haven't found a motherboard that has sata 6gbps and usb 3.0 that wasn't **** for 1336 except this one, I'll check how much money I can save by getting a lower ram frequency RAM/MOBO
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August 27, 2010 12:24:14 AM

You picked an i7 930, so triple channel memory (3x2GB=6GB) is correct. Sorry if I caused some confusion by missing that. For gaming purposes an i5 760 with 4GB is plenty (maybe optimal).

An SSD is a huge boost in boot and load times, it wont affect gameplay much.


Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3 ($229)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

My point with the graphics card is you are getting the most powerful CPU possible but only a high end graphics card. You should be able to get better gaming performance by dropping down to a Phenom II x4 system and spending the extra money on a stronger graphics card. It does depend on what kinds of games you play. If they are mostly RTS then maybe the stronger CPU makes sense, if they are FPS or MMO then it doesnt.
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August 27, 2010 12:40:16 AM

I decided to go with the 480, it's a 150$ price hike though, is it strong enough to go with the i7? the beast ram I chose previously has gone out stock, is there no way I can have 8GB though? I guess 6GB will be enough, will I ever be able to simply add another stick later, is it either 3 sticks or 6 sticks?
The motherboard you recommended me was cheaper but had a 20% 1 star rating that described a huge amounts of problems which dissuaded me from buying that motherboard. Are you sure there are no other incompatibilities though?
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August 27, 2010 2:35:34 AM

Dude, that RAM going out of stock will have saved you a heap. I haven't looked at prices of other RAM as I'm in NZ, but there is really no need for RAM higher than 1600, you won't see a performance increase, in fact 1333 gives pretty much the same performance as 1600 too.

I suggest having a look for G Skill or Kingston 1600/1333 RAM instead and with the money you save you'll be able to get the 8GB you are after too.
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August 27, 2010 3:50:07 AM

If you want to take advantage of Intel's triple channel hyperthreading, you need 3 sticks of memory. 3 x 2gigs is great for 64 bit systems and gaming!
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August 27, 2010 4:46:42 PM

With a 1366 motherboard you put in 6 or 12 GB.

If you are looking at newegg ratings, forget it. The vast bulk of the motherboard RMAs and bad reviews are from people who shouldnt have been assembling a computer to begin with. The really expensive motherboards have far less reviews and are generally better because only a handful of enthusiasts buy them. Its a people issue, not a motherboard quality issue.
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