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Anonymous
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December 12, 2004 3:33:52 AM

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I am buying a new laptop!

And I am still confused!

I want to buy the best in the market.
so, what shall i buy, Centrino, Pentium 4.....?

Thanks

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Anonymous
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December 12, 2004 12:19:35 PM

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almaha_1980@hotmail.com wrote:

> I am buying a new laptop!
>
> And I am still confused!
>
> I want to buy the best in the market.
> so, what shall i buy, Centrino, Pentium 4.....?

Pentium 4M for low power, Mobile AMD64 for high performance.

"Centrino" a brand name that Intel licenses to vendors who use the Pentium
4M and some other specific parts--it's not a processor.
>
> Thanks

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Anonymous
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December 12, 2004 1:02:20 PM

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> I want to buy the best in the market.
> so, what shall i buy, Centrino, Pentium 4.....?

Are there still shops with this hot and loud
P4 pseudo "notebooks"

End of September, I saw in Munich Germany
the first time a big P4 free notebook show room.

http://notebook.pege.org/2004-kaufberatung/saturn-muenc...

Not one single P4! The fail construction is dead1


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Anonymous
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December 12, 2004 7:40:42 PM

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J. Clarke <jclarke@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> almaha_1980@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Pentium 4M for low power, Mobile AMD64 for high performance.
>
> "Centrino" a brand name that Intel licenses to vendors who use the
> Pentium 4M and some other specific parts--it's not a processor.

"Centrino" machines come with PentiumM processors only, not Pentium4M. The
Pentium4M and PentiumM are completely different processors.

PentiumM processors use the least power and have the longest runtime on
battery.

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Anonymous
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December 12, 2004 7:40:43 PM

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JHEM wrote:

> J. Clarke <jclarke@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> almaha_1980@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Pentium 4M for low power, Mobile AMD64 for high performance.
>>
>> "Centrino" a brand name that Intel licenses to vendors who use the
>> Pentium 4M and some other specific parts--it's not a processor.
>
> "Centrino" machines come with PentiumM processors only, not Pentium4M. The
> Pentium4M and PentiumM are completely different processors.
>
> PentiumM processors use the least power and have the longest runtime on
> battery.

You are of course correct--what I get for posting before I had my coffee or
after bedtime or whenever the Hell I posted that.

However the PentiumM is not unique to Centrino--Centrino machines have the
Pentium M and also one of the Intel 855 chipsets and an Intel Pro/Wireless
network connection. The Pro/Wireless for a long time was a deal breaker
and a lot of vendors chose to forego the "Centrino" designation on at least
some models to get support for more popular Wifi standards than the ones
that Intel supported. Now Intel supports a, b, and g, so it's less of an
issue.
>

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Anonymous
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December 12, 2004 10:03:51 PM

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> "Centrino" a brand name that Intel licenses to vendors who use the Pentium
> 4M and some other specific parts--it's not a processor.

It's maybe a good idea to think before writing.

The Pentium-M - called Centrino combined with other Intel components -
has absolut nothing to do with the fail construction P4


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Anonymous
a b D Laptop
December 12, 2004 10:03:52 PM

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Roland Mösl wrote:

>> "Centrino" a brand name that Intel licenses to vendors who use the
>> Pentium 4M and some other specific parts--it's not a processor.
>
> It's maybe a good idea to think before writing.
>
> The Pentium-M - called Centrino combined with other Intel components -
> has absolut nothing to do with the fail construction P4

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean when you say "fail
construction P4". Did the fab fall down or something?


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December 13, 2004 12:40:38 AM

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almaha_1980@hotmail.com wrote:
: I am buying a new laptop!

: And I am still confused!

: I want to buy the best in the market.
: so, what shall i buy, Centrino, Pentium 4.....?

These days I would probably go with Pentium M unless you care not at
all about battery life and care very much about CPU speed. Pentium M
performance these days is very good but still a little more expensive
than a Pentium 4-based laptop.

Laptops designed with Pentium M (not to be confused with Pentium 4M,
an entirely different chip) tend to be best for battery life, heat, and
weight. This is not assured, so you should instead look at the laptop
specs.

Centrino is simply an Intel branding of a laptop design platform;
Centrino includes a Pentium M CPU.

Celeron M is a cheaper version of the Pentium M.

Andrew
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December 13, 2004 10:45:36 AM

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For more on processors for your application, read:
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=gmso&pag...

It should help you consider your choice of processor for your mobile
needs or wants.

samurai.


On 12 Dec 2004 21:40:38 GMT, usenetMYSHOES@bizaveMYSHOES.com (Andrew)
wrote:

>almaha_1980@hotmail.com wrote:
>: I am buying a new laptop!
>
>: And I am still confused!
>
>: I want to buy the best in the market.
>: so, what shall i buy, Centrino, Pentium 4.....?
>
>These days I would probably go with Pentium M unless you care not at
>all about battery life and care very much about CPU speed. Pentium M
>performance these days is very good but still a little more expensive
>than a Pentium 4-based laptop.
>
>Laptops designed with Pentium M (not to be confused with Pentium 4M,
>an entirely different chip) tend to be best for battery life, heat, and
>weight. This is not assured, so you should instead look at the laptop
>specs.
>
>Centrino is simply an Intel branding of a laptop design platform;
>Centrino includes a Pentium M CPU.
>
>Celeron M is a cheaper version of the Pentium M.
>
>Andrew
Anonymous
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December 13, 2004 4:19:31 PM

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> http://notebook.pege.org/2004-kaufberatung/saturn-muenc...
>
> Not one single P4! The fail construction is dead1

No single P4 there, because there new toy to sell, to make money - Centrino,
just look at prices and see difference. If you want pay twice more for
couple decibels less, well...your choise (I am talking about good brand, no
noname 'bargains').

And after year or so there will appear new one - Centrino_blablabla, then
will you say that current Centrino was bad contruction? You must be very
flexible ;-)


Regards,

K.Polak
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
December 13, 2004 4:19:32 PM

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Krystian Polak wrote:

>> http://notebook.pege.org/2004-kaufberatung/saturn-muenc...
>>
>> Not one single P4! The fail construction is dead1
>
> No single P4 there, because there new toy to sell, to make money -
> Centrino, just look at prices and see difference. If you want pay twice
> more

????? Twice? What are you smoking?

> for couple decibels less,

And another hour of battery life.

> well...your choise (I am talking about good
> brand, no noname 'bargains').
>
> And after year or so there will appear new one - Centrino_blablabla, then
> will you say that current Centrino was bad contruction? You must be very
> flexible ;-)

Actually, the PentiumM has been around for a while. It's not particularly
new.

> Regards,
>
> K.Polak

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Anonymous
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December 13, 2004 7:52:47 PM

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>> No single P4 there, because there new toy to sell, to make money -
>> Centrino, just look at prices and see difference. If you want pay twice
>> more
>
> ????? Twice? What are you smoking?

For example Toshiba. Old model with P4 you can buy for, lets say 2300-2700
$AU whereas new Toshiba, G10/G100 or so, with P-M 2G cost almost 6000 $AU.
If at least it could beat P4 in cpu performence (like 3d rendering), but it
still cannot. Well, maybe version P-M 2.6G for 8 grands will do ;-)

It is fantastic that it generates less noise and heat and it works for such
a long time, but is it worth extra 2-3 grands? I guess, it depends on a
person and its pocket. Personaly I have better idea to spend this money.

>
>> for couple decibels less,
>
> And another hour of battery life.

That is true and again it depends on how much do you really need extra hour.
I agree, if it is crucial, one can go for P-M.

> Actually, the PentiumM has been around for a while. It's not particularly
> new.

Here I am smoking to Ronald. He so easly catches new stuff forgeting that
this fantastic new technology could not exist without old one and not
necessary must be couple class better only because is new. Don't throw away
old stuff. New Jaguars cannot much new ones. New, super-hiper audio gear
cannot much 10-15 years old, hi-end audio gear. Even if you think, I
should.

Etc etc etc

And here I even don't mention marketing which can averege user with averege
knowledge in a area convince to everything.

Regards,

K.Polak
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
December 13, 2004 7:52:48 PM

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Krystian Polak wrote:

>>> No single P4 there, because there new toy to sell, to make money -
>>> Centrino, just look at prices and see difference. If you want pay twice
>>> more
>>
>> ????? Twice? What are you smoking?
>
> For example Toshiba. Old model with P4 you can buy for, lets say 2300-2700
> $AU whereas new Toshiba, G10/G100 or so, with P-M 2G cost almost 6000 $AU.
> If at least it could beat P4 in cpu performence (like 3d rendering), but
> it still cannot. Well, maybe version P-M 2.6G for 8 grands will do ;-)
>
> It is fantastic that it generates less noise and heat and it works for
> such a long time, but is it worth extra 2-3 grands? I guess, it depends on
> a person and its pocket. Personaly I have better idea to spend this money.

This has nothing to do with Intel or the price of processors. Newegg has a
Pentium-M Toshiba for $1199, while their cheapest Pentium 4 Mobile Toshiba
is $1379.

>>> for couple decibels less,
>>
>> And another hour of battery life.
>
> That is true and again it depends on how much do you really need extra
> hour. I agree, if it is crucial, one can go for P-M.
>
>> Actually, the PentiumM has been around for a while. It's not
>> particularly new.
>
> Here I am smoking to Ronald. He so easly catches new stuff forgeting that
> this fantastic new technology could not exist without old one and not
> necessary must be couple class better only because is new. Don't throw
> away old stuff. New Jaguars cannot much new ones. New, super-hiper audio
> gear
> cannot much 10-15 years old, hi-end audio gear. Even if you think, I
> should.
>
> Etc etc etc
>
> And here I even don't mention marketing which can averege user with
> averege knowledge in a area convince to everything.
>
> Regards,
>
> K.Polak

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December 14, 2004 1:10:19 AM

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Running Centrino 1.7G 512m ram ATI graphics ... its FAST
can run 4+ hours on batteries

:) ))))))))))))

"Roland Mösl" <founder@pege.org> wrote in message
news:41bc0921$0$28722$91cee783@newsreader01.highway.telekom.at...
>> I want to buy the best in the market.
>> so, what shall i buy, Centrino, Pentium 4.....?
>
> Are there still shops with this hot and loud
> P4 pseudo "notebooks"
>
> End of September, I saw in Munich Germany
> the first time a big P4 free notebook show room.
>
> http://notebook.pege.org/2004-kaufberatung/saturn-muenc...
>
> Not one single P4! The fail construction is dead1
>
>
> --
> Roland Mösl
> http://www.pege.org Clear targets for a confused civilization
> http://web-design-suite.com Web Design starts at the search engine
>
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
December 14, 2004 12:07:04 PM

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> This has nothing to do with Intel or the price of processors. Newegg has
> a
> Pentium-M Toshiba for $1199, while their cheapest Pentium 4 Mobile Toshiba
> is $1379.

But you don't buy only procesor, usualy people buy whole laptop and here we
end up with Centrino platform ;-)

Of course it depends on confriguration, but from what I see in shops similar
configuration for Centrino is usually 50% more expensive. And the more cool,
flat, light is machine the more expensive.

And of course this has nothing to do with Intel because it has to do with
marketing and fashion and maybe a little more with real demand and usage.

Regards,

K.Polak
December 14, 2004 12:07:05 PM

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Krystian Polak <krpolak@poczta.onet.pl> wrote:
: Of course it depends on confriguration, but from what I see in shops similar
: configuration for Centrino is usually 50% more expensive. And the more cool,
: flat, light is machine the more expensive.

In the United States, the difference in price between a
Centrino/Pentium M laptop and a P4 laptop is nowhere near 50% - maybe
20%. Of course, Pentium M allows for a whole new breed of light,
compact laptop not even possible with a P4, so you can't really
compare those lighter machines with the more traditional Pentium
M-based laptops.

: And of course this has nothing to do with Intel because it has to do with
: marketing and fashion and maybe a little more with real demand and usage.

Marketing is of course why Intel picked "Centrino" not "Pentium M" to
push to customers. They saw a big demand for lighter, cooler,
wireless, longer-lasting-battery notebooks and marketed to that need.

Andrew
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Anonymous
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December 14, 2004 12:07:05 PM

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Krystian Polak wrote:

>> This has nothing to do with Intel or the price of processors. Newegg has
>> a
>> Pentium-M Toshiba for $1199, while their cheapest Pentium 4 Mobile
>> Toshiba is $1379.
>
> But you don't buy only procesor, usualy people buy whole laptop and here
> we end up with Centrino platform ;-)

You can get laptops with the Pentium M that do not have the Centrino label.
Note again--the Pentium M Toshiba is $180 _less_ than the Pentium 4 model.
That's for hardware in stock for immediate delivery.

I paid less for my Athlon-64 machine than Toshiba gets for that Pentium 4
box.

> Of course it depends on confriguration, but from what I see in shops
> similar configuration for Centrino is usually 50% more expensive. And the
> more cool, flat, light is machine the more expensive.
>
> And of course this has nothing to do with Intel because it has to do with
> marketing and fashion and maybe a little more with real demand and usage.


>
> Regards,
>
> K.Polak

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Anonymous
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December 14, 2004 2:40:13 PM

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> In the United States, the difference in price between a
> Centrino/Pentium M laptop and a P4 laptop is nowhere near 50% - maybe
> 20%. Of course, Pentium M allows for a whole new breed of light,
> compact laptop not even possible with a P4, so you can't really
> compare those lighter machines with the more traditional Pentium
> M-based laptops.

Yes, and again if you need lighter machine. Question in this topic was about
"the best processor". It not necessary has to mean the lighter and coolest
one, hasn't it?

> Marketing is of course why Intel picked "Centrino" not "Pentium M" to
> push to customers. They saw a big demand for lighter, cooler,
> wireless, longer-lasting-battery notebooks and marketed to that need.

If you aware of your need, yes go for it, you really need it.

But I am not sure if almaha_1980@hotmail.com is not the same case as my
friend. He asked me for advice in choosing laptop for him. I asked: why
laptop, any particular reason? And answer was: not really, I just like it,
it is so small.

Yes, you can go this way ;-)

Regards,

K.Polak
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