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August 28, 2010 10:11:48 AM

hey all,

I am a completely newbie to the world of system building. My need is a decently powerful system capable to handle data manipulation and calculation (SAS). Also I would like to play some new game (no FPS), not with particularly high fps and resolution (<=1680*1050) need. Someone suggests me to eliminate the hassle: buy a integrated graphic card dell system and an individual graphic card to build.

I don't know whether it is reasonable.

The dell system is :
Intel® Core™2 Duo E7500 (2,93 GHz, 1.066 MHz, 3 MB)
4096MB Dual Channel DDR3 [4x1024] Memory
750GB (7200rpm) SATA Hard Drive
Geïntegreerde Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator X4500

For the graphic card , I heard HD5770 is fine with medium gaming need. http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Grafische_kaarten_...

I live in the Netherlands and have the budget around 600 euro. Could someone give me some advice? Alternative.nl has an online system builder. But I just don't know how to set up a good system.

Thank you.


a b U Graphics card
August 28, 2010 10:29:35 AM

you say you need a decently powerful system and game lightly,
This to me suggests a homebuild over a pre-build anyday, especially at a budget
The 5770 is a decent performer at budget (I run them in 2 systems at home) so keep that imo
look at the top thread on this section, theres a link for asking about new build advice, fill one in and we'll get you in the right direction, but we need more info from you first :) 
its in here:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/288241-13-read-post...

Moto
August 28, 2010 10:36:22 AM

I dunno 'bout comp prices in Europe, but where I'm at, pre builds are not even an option.

Nobody buys C2D's for a ground up new system anymore. You can get a much better system for the same price. I'm giving you Newegg links, 'coz I couldn't really navigate on the dutch site, so just find these products on your site & you're good to go.

600 Euro = $750. Now ---

CPU : AMD Athlon II X3 440

Mobo : ASUS M4A87TD/USB3

RAM : G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB)

HDD : SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3

GPU : Keep the 5770. It's a good one.

PSU : Any good 550 watt PSU available in your country - Corsair, Seasonic, Antec, XFX, at least CoolerMaster, Xigmatec, Thermaltake, OCZ etc.

ODD : Get something from LG/Samsung/Sony/Asus etc for around 20 odd euros.

Case : Mid-Tower ATX. Don't spend more than 40-50 Euros (max) on this one.

This system will be much more modern than a LGA 775 system from Dell, with much more headroom for expansion in the future.

EDIT : ^ Didn't see motopsycho's reply :kaola: 
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August 28, 2010 11:23:44 AM

Thank you calguyhunk.

I tried copying your configuration and then have this set up.

Sapphire HD5750
AMD Athlon II X3 445
OCZ Fatal1ty 550W
Asus M4A88TD-M EVO/USB3
Western Digital WD10EALS
Corsair 4 GB DDR3-1600 Kit

plus minitower dvdrom etc.

Is this any good?
however, plus mouse and keyboard, it will break 650 euro. a little over my budget though.
August 28, 2010 11:34:40 AM

calguyhunk said:

600 Euro = $750. Now ---


Yeah thats where you are wrong, 600 euro = 500-600 USD. Parts are more expensive here even if the dollar is doing bad.

Robbie, Go to Hardware.info ( Nederlandse Website ) make an account and add the products you need to your wishlist, after that go to your wishlist and the site will show you which website has all your components and how much it costs. I would suggest azerty.nl. Has great service and they deliver free to the Netherlands.
August 28, 2010 11:45:59 AM

Thank you Essex

I know azerty.nl as well. Do they offer assembling service?
August 28, 2010 12:04:23 PM

Robbie_LJ said:
I tried copying your configuration and then have this set up.

Sapphire HD5750
AMD Athlon II X3 445
OCZ Fatal1ty 550W
Asus M4A88TD-M EVO/USB3
Western Digital WD10EALS
Corsair 4 GB DDR3-1600 Kit
If you are building from scratch, keep the 5770 that you originally linked. Down grade the CPU to the 440 to save some money. Get a 500 GB HDD if you're not in desperate need of storage. Get a CL7 RAM kit from Corsair, G.skill, Kingston, OCZ etc - Should cost 'bout the same as CL8/9.

Also, if you're not looking to OC or XFire you can save a bit on the Mobo. I'd still advise you to stick to USB 3.0. Avoid SATA 6GB/s if you have to. Go with a 870 chipset board may be. That should cost you a bit less.
August 28, 2010 10:22:00 PM

set up:
is it fine enough?

1 AMD Athlon II X3 440 € 63,45 € 63,45
1 Asrock 880GMH/USB3 € 65,36 € 65,36
1 Sapphire HD5770 1GB GDDR5 € 121,63 € 121,63
1 Samsung 1000GB HDD € 47,07 € 47,07
1 OCZ 550W Fatal1ty Series Power Supply € 50,21 € 50,21
1 Corsair CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 DDR3-1600Mhz 4 GB € 70,97 € 70,97
a b U Graphics card
August 29, 2010 12:38:59 AM

Yes that's about right Robbie
August 29, 2010 8:08:11 AM

Every thing's fine. Just a minor adjustment - Change your Corsair RAM to a "CL7" kit. The one you have is only CL9. The performance is a little bit better, but the price will be about the same (only 5/6 bucks extra). Not important, just something I noticed. Other than that, looks like you're good to go :) 
August 29, 2010 8:21:44 AM

Just noticed you asked 'bout assembling services.

Assembling a comp is not at all difficult if you do just a little research on the net.

PC building guide - maximumpc.com

You Tube Videos - youtube.com

Tom's Hardware guide - tomshardware.com
a b U Graphics card
August 29, 2010 9:31:35 AM

Nice looking build man,
and in addition to what Calguy says,

We can help :) 
/Cue evil laugh and effects, muahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!


Seriously though man, if you do get that and need help/advice, we're here for ye mate
Moto
August 29, 2010 10:52:03 AM

^+1 for Motopshycho
August 29, 2010 3:42:35 PM

Thank you all
I have decided to follow calguyhunk's suggestion.

too bad that I don't have the courage to assemble them by myself and have to shell out another 45 euro. Made it below 630 euro after all.
a b U Graphics card
August 29, 2010 3:45:09 PM

Its a good system anyhow and will see you right for some time to come, Glad we could be of help man,
Moto
August 29, 2010 4:37:11 PM

45 Euros are a great value, actually. A couple of months ago, an aussie guy said that he was gonna pay $150-200 for assembly! Scared the mess outta me :) 
a b U Graphics card
August 29, 2010 4:39:23 PM

^Damn, thats another 5770 :p 
I agree €45 is a good deal for assembly, if you get an ocd guy putting it together you'll get good Cable management thrown in hehe :) 
Good luck and let us know how you get on man,
Moto
September 23, 2010 10:26:32 AM

ok I have finally got the new machine. it looks good, however, a little noisy i must say.

I notice that there are two case fans. Could i just use one only? I have closed one and feel that the machine is much quieter.
a b U Graphics card
September 23, 2010 4:39:42 PM

lets have some pics :) 
you can use one fan and it will be quieter but you wont get as good cooling as possible, it might be small fans,or a loose bearing causing the noise, get a picor two up and well take a look, see what we can come up with :) 
Moto
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