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August 29, 2010 1:13:31 PM

Hello all. I am currently planning to upgrade my 8 year old system to a new budget AMD gaming build. My ideal pricing would be £320 or under, however I may be able to stretch my budget. These are my currently chosen parts :

- CPU : AMD Phenom II X4 945

- Motherboard : ASRock M3A770DE

- Case : NZXT Gamma Steel Case - No PSU

- Case Fans : Arctic Cooling Case Fan

- RAM : Giel 2 x 1GB DDR3-1333

- PSU : Arianet 550W Gaming PSU

The case isn't a requirement but I think it would be necessary for good cooling as my current case supports only 4 80mm fans. Also, I haven't decided on the graphics card, although I'm with either the Radeon HD 5770 or the HD 5830 depending on how far my budget can stretch. I've found them, at cheapest, for £98 [Reference] and £136 [Sapphire] receptively. I'd also like to request if possible, to find the same parts for cheaper and for somebody to find a 5770 for under £110 and/or a 5830 for £130 or less.

Notes : - I will be keeping my old IDE HDD and IDE DVD/CD Drive and CRT monitor for a while and may add a SATA one soon.
- I WON'T be doing overclocking but crossfire graphics may be a future option for me.

Feel free to make suggestions and/or modifications (UK retailers would be ideal). All help is appreciated.
August 30, 2010 9:59:24 AM

Off ebuyer UK perhaps some ideas after removing parts u have on hand hehe
August 30, 2010 2:25:14 PM

Thanks for the image and the recommendation. Only problem is that I can't find the MSI M/B on the site :/ 
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August 30, 2010 2:28:32 PM

1. I don't trust PSU's from some unknown manufacturers.
3. AsRock mobos are not worth buying.
4. 2GB RAM will be a bottleneck for new games that will come out.


Change the mobo to one from either ASUS or Gigabyte.
Change the RAM to 4GB.
Put in the X3 445, GTX460 768MB and a ~550W PSU from one of these manufacturers: Antec, Corsair, OCZ, CM or XFX.

August 30, 2010 3:38:05 PM

unknown_13 said:
1. I don't trust PSU's from some unknown manufacturers.
3. AsRock mobos are not worth buying.
4. 2GB RAM will be a bottleneck for new games that will come out.


Change the mobo to one from either ASUS or Gigabyte.
Change the RAM to 4GB.
Put in the X3 445, GTX460 768MB and a ~550W PSU from one of these manufacturers: Antec, Corsair, OCZ, CM or XFX.


4GB RAM would probably be a bit too much for me, perhaps 2.5GB or 3GB would be better. Also, I've found an MSI board (it's a good price, and from my experiences they last a while). Your suggestion of a GTX 460 and a Athlon II X3 445 was helpful but is the tradeoff for graphics power going to affect performance compared to a Phenom II X4 95 and a HD 5770/HD 5830?
August 30, 2010 3:42:52 PM

Quote:
4GB RAM would probably be a bit too much for me, perhaps 2.5GB or 3GB would be better. Also, I've found an MSI board (it's a good price, and from my experiences they last a while). Your suggestion of a GTX 460 and a Athlon II X3 445 was helpful but is the tradeoff for graphics power going to affect performance compared to a Phenom II X4 955 (which I have now found for cheap thanks to batuchka) and a HD 5770/HD 5830?


Can't edit my post -_-
August 30, 2010 5:18:42 PM

nm95 said:
4GB RAM would probably be a bit too much for me, perhaps 2.5GB or 3GB would be better. Also, I've found an MSI board (it's a good price, and from my experiences they last a while). Your suggestion of a GTX 460 and a Athlon II X3 445 was helpful but is the tradeoff for graphics power going to affect performance compared to a Phenom II X4 95 and a HD 5770/HD 5830?


The difference in games won't be that big, considering that the you'll have more powerfull GPU, the GPU is more important (especially in resolutions like 1600x900 and above). However, if you're a heavy multitasker, then get the PC with the PII X4 955 (with some Antech or Corsair PSU), the 4-th core will make difference.
August 31, 2010 11:11:16 AM

unknown_13 said:
The difference in games won't be that big, considering that the you'll have more powerfull GPU, the GPU is more important (especially in resolutions like 1600x900 and above). However, if you're a heavy multitasker, then get the PC with the PII X4 955 (with some Antech or Corsair PSU), the 4-th core will make difference.


I'm not a heavy multitasker, the L3 cache and good clock rate was what I was interested in. I'll probably buy the Athlon II X3 445 and a GTX 460 as you suggested earlier. I would get a PII X3 but I can't find them anywhere :-/
August 31, 2010 11:15:53 AM

nm95 said:
I'm not a heavy multitasker, the L3 cache and good clock rate was what I was interested in. I'll probably buy the Athlon II X3 445 and a GTX 460 as you suggested earlier. I would get a PII X3 but I can't find them anywhere :-/


A Phenom II X3 720 would've also been a good choice, however, they appear to be deactivated on Newegg and are hard to find, unless you get a used one.
September 11, 2010 12:13:43 PM

unknown_13 said:
A Phenom II X3 720 would've also been a good choice, however, they appear to be deactivated on Newegg and are hard to find, unless you get a used one.


Been away for a while, sorry. Can't find any PII X3 720's round, but that doesn't matter. Which make of the GTX 460 would be best, a PALIT 786MB or a KFA2 EX OC EDITION 786MB? (I'm guessing its the KFA2, but I don't know if they are a good manufacturer...)
September 11, 2010 12:22:15 PM

nm95 said:
Been away for a while, sorry. Can't find any PII X3 720's round, but that doesn't matter. Which make of the GTX 460 would be best, a PALIT 786MB or a KFA2 EX OC EDITION 786MB? (I'm guessing its the KFA2, but I don't know if they are a good manufacturer...)


Never heard of KFA2.

I'd get a EVGA GTX460 768MB though.
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