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Processor for AM2/AM2+ Socket

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Hello,

Quick Question:

I want to change my current Athlon 4000+ CPU with something more productive for AM2/AM2+ socket.
I was thinking for Phenom II 940 Black Edition - L3 Cache 8MB, but if you have something better for that money, please feel free to share it :)
I have limited budget - around £100-£150.

Many Many Thanks

Ivo

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Please advise as to your motherboard.

It is possible it may support an AM3 processor like the Phenom x4 965BE.

AM3 processors have both DDR2 and DDR3 memory capability so that you may reuse your RAMs and motherboard in many instances.

edit: Oh ....

Welcome! :hello:


Message edited by Wisecracker on 11-18-2010 at 02:59:43 PM
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leppermesiah wrote :

Hello,

 

Quick Question:

 

I want to change my current Athlon 4000+ CPU with something more productive for AM2/AM2+ socket.
I was thinking for Phenom II 940 Black Edition - L3 Cache 8MB, but if you have something better for that money, please feel free to share it :)
I have limited budget - around £100-£150.

 

Many Many Thanks

 

Ivo

 


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Message edited by rand_79 on 11-18-2010 at 03:02:33 PM
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where are you, in the UK.?

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Reply to malmental

My Motherboard is M2A-VM HDMI

I will order the CPU from UK, but i'm not there at the moment.

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Official CPU Support from Asus.

Gaming, multimedia, video trancoding, surfing around ??

Give us an idea what you are doing and we'll fire off a few recommendations for you.

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I just bought ATI HD5750 1GB GDDR5 GPU, and later will add another 2G of DDR2 RAM. So I'm trying to make it for watching 1080p HD movies and maybe for some gaming. I'm not that into the games, but when i see something i would like to play it even if not on Ultra High details. But mostly for HD Movies.

Thank you guys for you time.

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My Current CPU - Dual Core AMD Athlon 64 X2 2100MHz 4000+ Brisbane

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leppermesiah wrote :

I just bought ATI HD5750 1GB GDDR5 GPU, and later will add another 2G of DDR2 RAM. So I'm trying to make it for watching 1080p HD movies and maybe for some gaming. I'm not that into the games, but when i see something i would like to play it even if not on Ultra High details. But mostly for HD Movies.

Thank you guys for you time.



The HD5750 should off-load most of your cpu utilization for your HD video --- verify that you have installed the Avivo UVD decoder for hardware acceleceration by the 5750.

Give a look at the AMD Athlon II X3 445, Rana for £54.57 Inc VAT.

That should free up the rest of your cash for your RAMs upgrade

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I was thinking of something with Quad Core, but I'll look at this as well. Thanks Wisecracker...

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Wisecracker wrote :

The HD5750 should off-load most of your cpu utilization for your HD video --- verify that you have installed the Avivo UVD decoder for hardware acceleceration by the 5750.

Give a look at the AMD Athlon II X3 445, Rana for £54.57 Inc VAT.

That should free up the rest of your cash for your RAMs upgrade



Thats a great idea, I can't believe how cheap that x3 445 is.

I was gonna say the x2 555 if dual core was an option but thats like £70.

The x4 940 is a beauty and only £75 OEM, £20 more than the x3 445, if you can push the budget a little.

http://www.cclonline.com/product-i [...] tid=frooct

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leppermesiah wrote :

I was thinking of something with Quad Core, but I'll look at this as well. Thanks Wisecracker...



NP

The Athlon II X4 640 Propus is a great processor.


beanoslim wrote :

Thats a great idea, I can't believe how cheap that x3 445 is.

I was gonna say the x2 555 if dual core was an option but thats like £70.

The x4 940 is a beauty and only £75 OEM, £20 more than the x3 445, if you can push the budget a little.

http://www.cclonline.com/product-i [...] tid=frooct



I think that Asus mobo is limited to 95w processors --- though the PHII 940BE is a great deal.

If he could find a 95w PhII 945 he would have some massive jam for whatever he wished to do. I would suggest he stick with AM3 processors because the CPU will move forward with AM3+ when it is available (the PhII 940BE is AM2).

And, man :D I dig my PhII 550!


Message edited by Wisecracker on 11-18-2010 at 04:27:20 PM
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I think that Asus mobo is limited to 95w processors --- though the PHII 940BE is a great deal.



aaaaaaaaaaah..pity.. :mmmfff:

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If he could find a 95w PhII 945 he would have some massive jam for whatever he wished to do. I would suggest he stick with AM3 processors because the CPU will move forward with AM3+ when it is available (the PhII 940BE is AM2).



True indeed..I have my AM3 555 housed in the DFI790GX AM2+

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And, man :D I dig my PhII 550!



My little ol £70 555 is chugging along @3.6 quad core, I'd say value for money. [:aford10:7]


Message edited by beanoslim on 11-18-2010 at 04:51:38 PM
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Nice one Guys... Thanks everyone for your time and answers. I'll consider your suggestions and I'll let you all know what i bought and how it goes in my M2A-VM HDMI Board. :bounce:

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Consider overclocking, I'm running a 4000+ on stock cooling/auto voltage, etc at 3GHz, these are 65nm chips in an era when many were 90nm, I would clock up to at least 2.5 or so and let prices fall for a few more months.

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Over here in the states the 940 BE is one of the best bangs per buck CPU's
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_value_available.html

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A little Bump of this thread.

I've just update my M2A-VM HDMI motherboard with the latest 5001 BIOS from Asus. Don't ask me Why. I've always want to try beta version of all kind of software.

It says that this BIOS is Beta but it's made to support AM3 CPU's.

Also I've read in the Asus forums that it has some limitations. It support only 65W CPU's.

The one that I'm planning to get due to your recommendations is Phenom II X4 965 Black, 3.4GHz, 8MB, AM3, Box. But this CPU is 140W. Do you think this gonna work with the Beta BIOS 5001 ? Does someone test this before, or heard something?

Any Help will be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Lep...

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don't do it..
if that's true and you can only run 65watt chips then your options are limited.
and now you have to look at the newer Athlon II chips..

 

AMD Athlon II X2 270 / X270 - Regor x2 (3.4GHz)
AMD Phenom II X3 705e - Heka x3 (2.5GHz)
AMD Phenom II X4 905e - Denebx4 (2.5GHz)

 

that's it on 65-watt choices..
since it's beta I hope you're prepared for the worse just in case..
i wish you good luck.

 

FYI - the BIOS update might work but I do not think that it will.
you need to see how much VRAM your motherboard has, if it has 8MB VRAM chip then there is a slight possibility
but I think that your going to have to stay with a higher clocked dual core.
this motherboard is not an AM2+ socket, it's just AM2.
so if the BETA BIOS update doesn't work then you have only a few older Athlon 64x2 dual core chips to choose from:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+ - Brisbane (2.9GHz)
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400+ Black Edition - Brisbane (2.8GHz)

 

also the possibility of running a 80-90watt chip might work, MIGHT but with NO OVERCLOCKING, good power supply and cpu cooler.
I still wouldn't try it if you need to be safer than sorry with this unit. if you have a back-up unit then designate this a test box..
malmental..


Message edited by malmental on 11-25-2010 at 02:27:07 PM
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Malmental obviously knows his stuff^^ Is it worth all the if's and buts??

The 940BE isn't an option due to it being 125w.

I would seriously consider taking all the complications out of your purchase and spend £90 on the 945.

http://www.advancetec.co.uk/acatal [...] GIBOX.html

Its a great CPU especially at that price, easily OC'able and 3ghz quad core out the box. :na:

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beanoslim wrote :

Malmental obviously knows his stuff^^ Is it worth all the if's and buts??

 

The 940BE isn't an option due to it being 125w.

 

I would seriously consider taking all the complications out of your purchase and spend £90 on the 945.

 

http://www.advancetec.co.uk/acatal [...] GIBOX.html

 

Its a great CPU especially at that price, easily OC'able and 3ghz quad core out the box. :na:


^
thanks for the compliment.
the 945 chip is not guaranteed to work even if the BETA BIOS does work; it's a 95-watt chip.
and remember your board has the 65-watt limit warning; so you'll need to baby the chip and not run it hard for too long.
IF IT WORKS.
the board is only AM2 and his ONLY options are listed above - IF THE BETA BIOS DOESN'T WORK.

 



Message edited by malmental on 11-25-2010 at 04:16:49 PM
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Apologies, I didn't realise the 945 was also on the beta bios. :langue:

I've only used a few beta bios with no problems, are they prone to problems???


Message edited by beanoslim on 11-25-2010 at 05:09:29 PM
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i just don't mess with the BIOS unless I have too or there is a definite enhancement to the BIOS (board) itself;
that and processor upgrade if it needs it then.
if it isn't broke then don't fix it....

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I just got a new PhII 945 and CM212 with the specific intention of seeing "where will it go?" - LOL

However you, sir, will not have that option. The 945 95w will pretty much be maxed at stock with your motherboard pushing just enough to keep you going.

Unless you plan a future move to a new motherboard for the 945 that would be the way to go, but for what you want to do the PhII x2s will be fine, and at 80w with a higher overall clock speed gives a little OC headroom with which to play around. You won't have that with a 95w CPU on your current motherboard.

Otherwise, that X3 Rana is really the best deal for you, overall.

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agreed wisecracker, i even mentioned the 80-watt option in my first remarks...

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