Smallest, lightest laptops?

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"Doug MacArthur" <doug-macarthur@rogers.com> writes:
> Who makes small (maybe 10") laptops. Hopefully with a DVD burner. Will be
> used for digital camera images while on holidays.

Sony makes a very nice one that's about 3 lb with an internal dvd
burner. It has a WXGA screen and a reduced-sized keyboard, so it's
not something you'd want to use as a computer all day.

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"Doug MacArthur" <doug-macarthur@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Who makes small (maybe 10") laptops. Hopefully with a DVD burner. Will be used for
> digital camera images while on holidays.
> Any advise appreciated.

Fujitsu P-series (P7010, P5020.) The Japanese model of P7010 has a built-in DVD
burner!
I've been using a P5020D for over a year with no complaints whatsoever.

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"Paul Rubin" <http://phr.cx@NOSPAM.invalid&gt; wrote in message
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> "Doug MacArthur" <doug-macarthur@rogers.com> writes:
>> Who makes small (maybe 10") laptops. Hopefully with a DVD burner. Will be
>> used for digital camera images while on holidays.
>
> Sony makes a very nice one that's about 3 lb with an internal dvd
> burner. It has a WXGA screen and a reduced-sized keyboard, so it's
> not something you'd want to use as a computer all day.

I second the Sony (VGN-T150P/L). It seems to be the best value for a 3 lb
laptop with built-in DVD burner and it's got a great screen.

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http://www.dynamism.com/index.shtml

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With Burner.

Not in any order, but all ~<3lbs:
Sony TR5A
Fujitsu P7000/T70H series:
http://webshop.fujitsupc.com/fpc/Ecommerce/PrdBridge.js...
Panasonic Y2/W2 series
JVC Interlink XV series

Other notebooks will be 4lbs+ with burner.

Panasonic has the longest standard battery life under most Japanese
magazine tests. Sony has built-in camera; Fujitsu has big support forums
in the USA http://www.leog.net/fujp_forum/ and has can be customized;
Panasonic & JVC have to be imported from Japan.

Some of these support dual-monitor modes - see specs.
For sure the Fujitsu does:
http://ttv.paksut.net/photo/P7010-Photoshop/Both_Screen...

Some of these have dual-battery options, like the Fujitsu.
That way, instead of the usual 3:30 runtime, you can go to 6+ hours of
non-stop runtime (w/o DVD drive in the bay, replaced by second battery).
Others have Large battery options, which replace the single standard
battery.

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David Chien <chiendh@uci.edu> writes:
> With Burner.

Ya know, internal HD's have gotten so cheap and capacious that the
usefulness of an internal burner has declined somewhat. There are
also some very small/light external burners available, and USB 2.0
(present in most newer laptops) is fast enough to run them pretty
well, unlike USB 1.1. Sony has those nice TR series machines with
burners at about 3 pounds, but they also have an astonishingly compact
burnerless machine that's just 1.8 pounds and that has a bigger screen
than the TR's.

I got an internal burner for my Thinkpad A20p a few years back and it
was fantastic at the time, but these days I'm happy with a burnerless
machine and an external burner.

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Paul Rubin wrote:
> David Chien <chiendh@uci.edu> writes:
>> With Burner.
>
> Ya know, internal HD's have gotten so cheap and capacious that the
> usefulness of an internal burner has declined somewhat. There are
> also some very small/light external burners available, and USB 2.0
> (present in most newer laptops) is fast enough to run them pretty
> well, unlike USB 1.1. Sony has those nice TR series machines with
> burners at about 3 pounds, but they also have an astonishingly compact
> burnerless machine that's just 1.8 pounds and that has a bigger screen
> than the TR's.
>
> I got an internal burner for my Thinkpad A20p a few years back and it
> was fantastic at the time, but these days I'm happy with a burnerless
> machine and an external burner.

Since for most people burning DVDs is infrequent, a full-size desktop
DVD burner and a USB2/Firewire enclosure can be put together for about
$100 compared to the $200++ for most internal laptop burners. The NEC
3500A, one of the best burners is $70 at newegg, and a compatible
enclosure is maybe $40. ...if portability is not an issue.

Q

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>Ya know, internal HD's have gotten so cheap and capacious that the
>usefulness of an internal burner has declined somewhat.

That's a good point!

Id rather not have the hassle of burning anything.

Instead prefer to just use hard drives

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<me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> >Ya know, internal HD's have gotten so cheap and capacious that the
>>usefulness of an internal burner has declined somewhat.
>
> That's a good point!
>
> Id rather not have the hassle of burning anything.
>
> Instead prefer to just use hard drives

some of the small computers use standard 2.5" drives while others use
smaller drives to save weight and space. the really small drives rarely
have the capacity which is commonly available on the 2.5" drives, are
usually more expensive per Gb, and are not as easy or cheap to replace.
I'd try to stick with a machine that uses the standard 2.5 drives.

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"David Chien" <chiendh@uci.edu> wrote in message
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> With Burner.
>
> Not in any order, but all ~<3lbs:
> Sony TR5A
> Fujitsu P7000/T70H series:
> http://webshop.fujitsupc.com/fpc/Ecommerce/PrdBridge.js...
> Panasonic Y2/W2 series
> JVC Interlink XV series
>
> Other notebooks will be 4lbs+ with burner.
>
> Panasonic has the longest standard battery life under most Japanese
> magazine tests. Sony has built-in camera; Fujitsu has big support forums
> in the USA http://www.leog.net/fujp_forum/ and has can be customized;
> Panasonic & JVC have to be imported from Japan.
>


Not true anymore.

The R3/T2/W2/Y2 and TB 29/48/50/51/73 are
now available from distributors in the US.



dk

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http://www.averatec.com/
averatec is one of the smallest and least expensive

"Dan Koren" <dankoren@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "David Chien" <chiendh@uci.edu> wrote in message
> news:cpnjbg$gd1$1@news.service.uci.edu...
> > With Burner.
> >
> > Not in any order, but all ~<3lbs:
> > Sony TR5A
> > Fujitsu P7000/T70H series:
> > http://webshop.fujitsupc.com/fpc/Ecommerce/PrdBridge.js...
> > Panasonic Y2/W2 series
> > JVC Interlink XV series
> >
> > Other notebooks will be 4lbs+ with burner.
> >
> > Panasonic has the longest standard battery life under most Japanese
> > magazine tests. Sony has built-in camera; Fujitsu has big support forums
> > in the USA http://www.leog.net/fujp_forum/ and has can be customized;
> > Panasonic & JVC have to be imported from Japan.
> >
>
>
> Not true anymore.
>
> The R3/T2/W2/Y2 and TB 29/48/50/51/73 are
> now available from distributors in the US.
>
>
>
> dk
>
>

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I am a really major fan of my Fujitsu Lifebook S6000.

It is 3.5 Pounds, integrated slot-loading dvd-/+/R/W/RAM/CDRW, 8 hours
of battery life on the standard battery (an extended one is avaliable
but it increases the weight.

13.3 inch screen, and a 1.7GHz processor. It uses DDR333 in its
standard onboard memory (512MB), although I upgraded to 2GB DDR333 as
I do a large ammount of photo editing when I am on the road.
(Photoshop is my best friend)

I got it for around $1800, and it has worked great for me.

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The biggest problem of laptops w/o burners? Can't get anything in or
out of the darn laptop when the client wants it NOW, and the usual
ethernet/wifi/etc. isn't working or can't be setup.

Yes, many can operate w/o internal burners, but it's yet another hassle
to carry around yet another part that can be left behind by accident,
and the biggest problem? They don't work w/o an AC plug! making the
point of laptops pointless....

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> http://www.averatec.com/
> averatec is one of the smallest and least expensive

But at 4+lbs and larger than the other smaller, lighter choices, it's
only good if you can't spend more than $1000 for the Averatec.
Otherwise, I'd just spend the $ and get the lighter notebooks because
4lbs still feels heavy as a rock once you've picked up a 2lbs notebook.

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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 12:30:15 -0800, David Chien <chiendh@uci.edu>
wrote:

>The biggest problem of laptops w/o burners? Can't get anything in or
>out of the darn laptop when the client wants it NOW, and the usual
>ethernet/wifi/etc. isn't working or can't be setup.
>
Well, let's bear in mind that we were *all* somehow getting buy
without DVD burners in our laptops until fairly recently - I've never
had to give anyone 7 gigabytes of data for work-related reasons, and
suspect it doesn't come up all that often for 99% of the population,
and the remaining 1% are likely violating copyright laws when they do.
At the last big project meeting I attended for work, we exchanged
all needed data using a 512MB USB jump drive and that was plenty. And
it's a key chain, too.
When I do need to move a LOT of gigabytes quickly, instead of
burning a disc of some sort, I use a USB drive enclosure with a 9.5mm
60GB drive in it: more capacity, lighter weight, self-powered, no
media to carry or buy, re-useable, and none of the compatibility
issues you can run into with DVD formats.
But a burner is nice too, if you want to go low tech ;-)
Emanuel

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I've got an X505, I don't know if it can fit your request. By the
way, it has a DVD burnner add-on.