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August 30, 2010 11:44:00 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Mid September

BUDGET RANGE: $1000 After Rebates

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming FFXIV, WOW, SC2 > Watching movies>surfing web

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Monitor not needed

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

PARTS PREFERENCES: IDK Intel endless someone can guantee me that the sockets for amd arent changed when they go to bulldozer

OVERCLOCKING: Yes

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I don't care about bling and I would like it to run as quiet as possible.

CPU - www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0341729
Intel Core i5-760 Proccesor 169.99

MOBO- ASUS Maximus III GENE LGA 1156 Intel P55 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard $150-20 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131599

GPU - EVGA 012-P3-1472-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) SuperClocked 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI $350-25 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130549


Case- COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197


PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371026&Tpk=Antec%20EarthWatts%20EA750
Antec EarthWatts EA750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V version 2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC "compatible with Core i7/Core i5" Power Supply $100 -20 MIR

HD - SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

Optical - LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA CD/DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM $18
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289

RAM - G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBECO $99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231321
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Total is 986 besides the CPU since I am picking that up from mircocenter before shipping, I didnt want to list any combos due to tomorrow being the first I know newegg starts new ones.

Any help would be greatly appricated guys

Thanks, Steve

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a b B Homebuilt system
August 31, 2010 12:39:50 AM

Go with the i5 760 and a P55 motherboard (gigabyte, ASUS or EVGA preferred). You are not doing anything massively threaded so it will be the best bang for your buck.

A few years from now, the i5 760 is probably going to be like a good core2quad is right now. Not something you would buy new, but overclocked its fast enough there is no point in replacing it yet.
August 31, 2010 12:52:15 AM

Couple of things:

Go for this case HAF 922 its better in almost every way, and cheaper.

Second, just so you know, AMD's newer bulldozer cpu's will be compatible with AM3 type motherboard's. I'd still go with intel though however.

Thirdly, I'm pretty sure that if you go with an i5 760 1156 socket build, you're not going to be able to upgrade at all in future (correct me if I'm wrong), you're better going off with an i7 930, and then I'd recommend this motherboard for it ASUS P6X58D-e

That's my 2 cents worth of advice!

Update:

Update:

If you go with an i7 build, then you need to go with triple channel memory (i.e. 3 x 1GB, 3 x 2GB, 6 x 1GB etc.). Like this one G Skill 6GB

Please note that I kept the price down for this RAM as it is obviously more expensive than the 4GB kit you had, so I kept as close to that price you had as possible. There are alternatives like this G Skill, but bigger budget.
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August 31, 2010 12:56:12 AM

dndhatcher said:
Go with the i5 760 and a P55 motherboard (gigabyte, ASUS or EVGA preferred). You are not doing anything massively threaded so it will be the best bang for your buck.

A few years from now, the i5 760 is probably going to be like a good core2quad is right now. Not something you would buy new, but overclocked its fast enough there is no point in replacing it yet.



Everything else is ggood? Now will I be needing anything else if/when I do oc my cpu ? and do u know of any combos with any of my parts ?
a b B Homebuilt system
August 31, 2010 12:59:03 AM

rikishi19 said:

Go for this case HAF 922 its better in almost every way, and cheaper.
This has been discussed many times in the forums. Ive not seen anyone convincingly argue that the 922 is better "in almost every way" to an Antec 902. Dust filters and moveable fans to control airflow zones are the 902s biggest advantages. Larger fans (usually quieter) and more space inside are the 922 advantages. Just overall being larger can be an advantage for the 922 or not, depending on the circumstances. They are both very good cases and cosmetics/price are what should really be the determining factors.



If you are going to overclock you will want a good 120mm CPU cooler. Some models to look at:
Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer
Coolermaster Hyper 212 plus
Xigmatek Balder
Scythe SCMG-2100 (mugen 2b)


Try these Eco series RAM for the same price as those ripjaws. Lower power usage means they run cooler and should overlclock better. No ripjaws fins means they wont interfere with the CPU cooler.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
August 31, 2010 1:01:48 AM

dndhatcher said:
This has been discussed many times in the forums. Ive not seen anyone convincingly argue that the 922 is better "in almost every way" to an Antec 902. Dust filters and moveable fans to control airflow are the 902s biggest advantages. Larger fans (usually quieter) and more space inside are the 922 advantages. Just overall being larger can be an advantage for the 922 or not, depending on the circumstances. They are both very good cases and cosmetics/price are what should really be the determining factors.


You're quite right, apologies. I was basing it mainly on the fact its so much cheaper for very similar performing case. The price puts its ahead in my view.
August 31, 2010 1:39:31 AM

now is over clcoking all this stop easy to be looked up online and printed out and performed ? by someone with very little to no skills in this category ?
August 31, 2010 1:48:17 AM

Also my Psu works good with the HAF 922 I only picked that antec earthwatts psu becuase it was going in an antec caseing. Also can anyone recommend me one of the good manufactures for the GPU ??
August 31, 2010 1:52:34 AM

Your PSU will work fine, this is another option for the psu for you to consider. I'm not sure on Antec psu's, they may be great, but I have no experience with them, but I know this corsair is very good.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

However, if you're going to SLI now/in future, you're much better off with an 850w instead of 750w, 750w is pretty close to the limit for 470 sli:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA are a great brand for the GPU:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

as are PALIT:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

note that EVGA are more expensive due to their lifetime warranty and great rep.
August 31, 2010 1:58:32 AM

rikishi19 said:
Couple of things:

Go for this case HAF 922 its better in almost every way, and cheaper.

Second, just so you know, AMD's newer bulldozer cpu's will be compatible with AM3 type motherboard's. I'd still go with intel though however.

Thirdly, I'm pretty sure that if you go with an i5 760 1156 socket build, you're not going to be able to upgrade at all in future (correct me if I'm wrong), you're better going off with an i7 930, and then I'd recommend this motherboard for it ASUS P6X58D-e

That's my 2 cents worth of advice!

Update:

Update:

If you go with an i7 build, then you need to go with triple channel memory (i.e. 3 x 1GB, 3 x 2GB, 6 x 1GB etc.). Like this one G Skill 6GB

Please note that I kept the price down for this RAM as it is obviously more expensive than the 4GB kit you had, so I kept as close to that price you had as possible. There are alternatives like this G Skill, but bigger budget.


What would my upgrade options be if I went with this CPU+MOBO ?
August 31, 2010 2:04:16 AM

any of the i7 range that are greater than 930, i.e the 960, the extreme range, and the new 6 core processor. Beyond the ones that are already on the market, I'm not sure what the in production processor sockets will be, maybe someone can point out if the next gen. intel cpu's will be compatible with 1366 socket boards?
August 31, 2010 2:08:51 AM

I heard the new sandy beach cpus will be creating new sockets along with them 1366 will be replace with 1365 and 1166 with 1165 :(  Also with the video cards, do you think I will be replacing this 470 within the 2 years just in case it did burn out after 2 years and the warranty was up on the palit or should i go with the evga and pay the extra for the lifetime warranty ?
August 31, 2010 2:14:43 AM

I'd personally def. go with the EVGA one myself. Most people recommend them over most other brands.

You have to remember there is always a point of limit with technology, it advances all the time, you can never get around the new technology not working on older when they get to that advance stage. If you're not wanting to limit yourself then maybe you should wait for intel's next gen. If not, then as far as I'm aware, the i7 range has the most upgrade options for now and the foreseeable future.
August 31, 2010 2:28:38 AM
August 31, 2010 2:31:40 AM

yeah it will, pretty much any mobo will fit into the 922 as far as i'm aware.

Look like great choices for the value/performance ratio for the budget mate.
a b B Homebuilt system
August 31, 2010 4:17:20 PM

Most Antec and most Corsair PSUs are built by seasonic. Corsair only has modular and non-modular, Antec has 4 lines at 4 price points. Corsair is basically at Antecs TruePower level (80+ bronze). Antec's Signature is their best (80+ silver), and Earthwatts is just below TruePower but still very good (80+ normal). Usually I look for at Seasonic, Corsair, Antec TP and Antec EA and choose the best price with the wattage I need.

Motherboards are almost all either ATX or microATX sized. Almost all cases will fit either size. Its the graphics card length that determines if you need a larger case or not.

The antec 300 illusion is my favorite small gaming case. It comes with dust filters, two front 120mm intake fans, a rear 120mm exhaust fan, a top 140mm exhaust fan and a side vent over the GPU you can mount another 120mm fan on if you want. You can sometimes get it on sale for $55 and/or free shipping. Right now its at its most expensive.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Its only downfall is the longest graphics card it can handle is 10.5 inches. Right now that means you cant fit a 5970 in, but any other card is fine.
September 1, 2010 2:40:19 AM

Do any of you guys know a good monitor also for 1920x1200 ?
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