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What is ATI's next step going to be

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July 27, 2010 3:19:26 PM

Hi,

Just a random discussion ( pretty important one ), the 5850 and 5770s were praised to be the value kings and were presumably selling well. But with the arrival of GTX 460 with the price of a 5830 and the performance that almost kills the 5850, Nvidia has broken into ATI's home and stole their value crown. What will the ATI do next? will they drop the price of the above mentioned cards, or just wait until the 6xxx series come out? :pfff: 

put in your views, quote me and correct me, tell us which one is ur fav brand, talk about the history.... :bounce: 

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July 27, 2010 3:23:44 PM

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GTX 460 with the price of a 5830 and the performance that almost kills the 5850

Really? the performance difference between the 768MB GTX 460 and 5830 is under 10%,
While the price difference between an pre-OCed 1GB GTX460 that comes close to the HD5850 to the actual thing is $10.

Value King? Maybe in SLI.
July 27, 2010 3:25:55 PM

Prices are fine. ATI are still competitive to some extent and it would take some pretty hefty price drops to edge out the 460. Instead I expect a 6000 release that stomps the entire fermi lineup. A high end single board card with a 30% gain over the 480 is garunteed, a 6870 maybe. Im expecting a mid-high to match the performance of the 470 but with lower power and heat and at a lower price, think along the lines of 6830 with a middle point price/performance wise. Finally a direct competitor to the 460 say a 6770 with maybe 20% margins over it.

Finally I expect the ATI 3d solution to be unveiled.
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July 27, 2010 3:29:31 PM

release of the 6xxx series of GPUs and a more open 3d solution then Nvidia's current product (i.e being able to use 3rd party glasses...)
July 27, 2010 3:56:35 PM

Timop said:
Quote:
GTX 460 with the price of a 5830 and the performance that almost kills the 5850

Really? the performance difference between the 768MB GTX 460 and 5830 is under 10%,
While the price difference between an pre-OCed 1GB GTX460 that comes close to the HD5850 to the actual thing is $10.

Value King? Maybe in SLI.


sorry, my bad. the gtx 460 768mb is not what i meant and forgot that it is the one at 5830's price range. what i was thinking of was the 460 1gb, which is at 230$ price... and it performs closely but NOT same as the 5850. but considering the 70$ price gap, the gtx 460 1gb is the winner. ( this is just my opinion, post ur opinion too :p  ) so whichever card it it is, both of them are good since the 5850 comes with eyefinity... but if u just purely look at the charts and the price, the thought would be *lets just go for the 460 1gb*
July 27, 2010 3:59:30 PM

Also, just saying that to me, the GTX460 1GB is overrated, unless for SLI of course. The 15% ump in price gives you an performance increase of only 7%. Bad value to me.
July 27, 2010 4:16:15 PM

guess Ati just needs 3d there lower end cards are faster than nvidias
July 27, 2010 8:17:18 PM

The next big think from ATI is going to be called "Blackomb"40nm/256bit GDDR5 UVD3/DIRECT 11/EYEFINITY+ propably 1Q-2Q 2011
July 27, 2010 8:38:13 PM

The 6000 series should start launching latter this year, by the end of September according to rumor. ATI cards are still selling well enough that ATI still has trouble meeting demand, but that's largely due to TSMC not putting out enough wafers. Anyway, ATI doesn't really have to worry just yet.
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