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July 27, 2010 8:00:06 PM

Im aware that two 460's will beat a single gtx 480 in every instance. I am just worried i might run into sli issue with the 460's or other issues with sli. I just cant make up my mind, its a hard decision!! On one hand i want the single fastest gpu and have the ability to sli them in the future (probably wont happen though) But also the 460's would perform better in sli but would be limited to only 2, and tri-sli is not supported. So what would you guys recommend? im stuck right now haha.....

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a b U Graphics card
July 27, 2010 8:01:32 PM

Whats the rest of your system?
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July 27, 2010 8:03:24 PM

Timop said:
Whats the rest of your system?



heres my specs.

Case: NZXT ZERO
Psu: nzxt 800 watt
cpu: Q9300 3.3ghz
Gpu: Gtx 280 Oced
Mobo: Evga 780i sli
Ram: Kingston 4gigs DDR2 800Mhz
Asetek liquid cooling
HD: 2x500gb
western digital 7200rpm
Keyboard/Mouse:Razr arctosa/logitech lx8
OS: W7 64bit
Monitor: Acer
P241w 24"
Numerous cooling fans
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a b U Graphics card
July 27, 2010 8:06:39 PM

Then get dual 460s, your CPU is probably gonna have some problems feeding dual GTX480s.
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July 27, 2010 8:08:56 PM

Timop said:
Then get dual 460s, your CPU is probably gonna have some problems feeding dual GTX480s.


You dont think my q9300 oced could handle that? Well what about getting just a single gtx 480, would that at least outlast dual 460's or have any advantages at all against dual 460's?
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July 27, 2010 8:12:51 PM

Also would two gtx 460's pull off textures/graphics quality and tessellation as well as a gtx480 could?
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July 27, 2010 8:20:52 PM

lewdawg said:
You dont think my q9300 oced could handle that? Well what about getting just a single gtx 480, would that at least outlast dual 460's or have any advantages at all against dual 460's?

The Q9300 is alright, but letting it handle the crazy amount of power like 2 GTX480s its still not ideal.

The GTX480 is more upgradeable, better at some older games not optimized for SLI, uses slightly less watts.

The dual GTX460 should perform better, be a little cooler.

Since dual GTX480s are out of the question, Id say just get 2 GTX460s and be happy. But they're the same price nowadays, so the difference really isn't that much and you'll be happy with both.
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July 27, 2010 8:21:55 PM

I'm in the same boat as you man. I've been trying to decide between 5970, 480, or 2 460s... I was almost set on the ZOTAC AMP 480 (pretty much the best single 480 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...!%20ZT-40102-10P%20GeForce%20GTX%20480) but now I'm thinking 2x EVGA 1GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)

If we do 2x 460, we get the best performance now. Getting a single 480 now doesn't seem like the best decision because they are supposedly coming out with a 485 which would probably blow it away in all things. So save $, get best performance, and just sell the 460s when the new 485s come out or something:) 
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July 27, 2010 8:24:43 PM

Shoot, after seeing Tom's benchmarks on the SLI GTX 460's... I'd say hands down go that route. Unless you can and fully intend to SLI the GTX 480, the GTX 260 SLI setup is an awesome choice.

These new 460's have impressed me greatly. :)  nVidia did a great job with them. If only the 470/480 launched with such impressive results!
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July 27, 2010 8:29:59 PM

3nn10 said:
I'm in the same boat as you man. I've been trying to decide between 5970, 480, or 2 460s... I was almost set on the ZOTAC AMP 480 (pretty much the best single 480 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...!%20ZT-40102-10P%20GeForce%20GTX%20480) but now I'm thinking 2x EVGA 1GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)

If we do 2x 460, we get the best performance now. Getting a single 480 now doesn't seem like the best decision because they are supposedly coming out with a 485 which would probably blow it away in all things. So save $, get best performance, and just sell the 460s when the new 485s come out or something:) 



Thats funny man, i have been tearing my hair out trying to make the decision. I actually ordered the MSI GTX 480 and cancelled it later that day because i just still felt up in the air with this one.

Thats good advice i agree, or i guess i could wait a few months for the 485, but im impatient. My GTX 280 is still doin alright i guess but i would love to have a fermi. Im not to big a fan of amd or ati either so im not looking into any of there products, i prefer green haha and always have. I really wish we had a release date and price for the gtx 485!!

Why is the Zotac amp edition 480 the best choice?
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a b U Graphics card
July 27, 2010 8:30:45 PM

I say go with dual gtx460. It should run cooler and quieter. Also if you buy the gtx460 get the 1Gb version because at higher resolutions you can see a difference in fps, and it won't be 1-3 fps as other have mentioned. The price difference is not that big eider.

Or is your main concern if you should buy 2 cards or one?
Mainly i would recommend 1 card is better then 2 cards in any system. But because of the heat and noise the GTX480 produces ..i would like to have one for fun then to give it back fro 2 GTX460.
So the best option is GTX460 in SLI. (2 cards give you up to 193% performance with the latest drivers)

EDIT: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... this is a little more expensive then http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... but i think it might help with temps in SLI. A customer there said he has 1 and 2'nd card at ~60C and ~70C at full load witch is great.
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July 27, 2010 8:31:23 PM

Timop said:
The Q9300 is alright, but letting it handle the crazy amount of power like 2 GTX480s its still not ideal.

The GTX480 is more upgradeable, better at some older games not optimized for SLI, uses slightly less watts.

The dual GTX460 should perform better, be a little cooler.

Since dual GTX480s are out of the question, Id say just get 2 GTX460s and be happy. But they're the same price nowadays, so the difference really isn't that much and you'll be happy with both.

Well thanks for the advice, i will keep that in mind :) 
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July 27, 2010 8:32:01 PM

You could just add another GTX 280 to your system. Anyway, if money is not a problem then just go with a single GTX 480 and add another one latter on. If you're going to be with the setup for a while then get two GTX 460s and be happy with it.
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July 27, 2010 8:33:16 PM

jerreece said:
Shoot, after seeing Tom's benchmarks on the SLI GTX 460's... I'd say hands down go that route. Unless you can and fully intend to SLI the GTX 480, the GTX 260 SLI setup is an awesome choice.

These new 460's have impressed me greatly. :)  nVidia did a great job with them. If only the 470/480 launched with such impressive results!

I was very impressed this morning when i read the article on dual 460's also, they were performing outstanding in comparsion to the 480, thats pretty insane!! I just cant make up my mind haha!!!
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a b U Graphics card
July 27, 2010 8:36:35 PM

I think the best idea to this thread now is throw a dice. 1-3 is GTX460, 4-6 is GTX480.
Have fun. XD
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July 27, 2010 8:38:35 PM

lewdawg said:
Thats funny man, i have been tearing my hair out trying to make the decision. I actually ordered the MSI GTX 480 and cancelled it later that day because i just still felt up in the air with this one.

Thats good advice i agree, or i guess i could wait a few months for the 485, but im impatient. My GTX 280 is still doin alright i guess but i would love to have a fermi. Im not to big a fan of amd or ati either so im not looking into any of there products, i prefer green haha and always have. I really wish we had a release date and price for the gtx 485!!

Why is the Zotac amp edition 480 the best choice?



You can check out this post where I asked just that: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/294075-33-which-best
Basically, it's cooling combined with overclocks. I read a few very complete reviews comparing the AMP with some other 480s and it is pulling ahead.

Only problem is if you want to SLI it, you need to have a board that will make that doable since 1x Zotac takes 3 slots.
If the 3 slot makes it unusable for you, I'd go for: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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July 27, 2010 8:40:08 PM

ionut19 said:
I say go with dual gtx460. It should run cooler and quieter. Also if you buy the gtx460 get the 1Gb version because at higher resolutions you can see a difference in fps, and it won't be 1-3 fps as other have mentioned. The price difference is not that big eider.

Or is your main concern if you should buy 2 cards or one?
Mainly i would recommend 1 card is better then 2 cards in any system. But because of the heat and noise the GTX480 produces ..i would like to have one for fun then to give it back fro 2 GTX460.
So the best option is GTX460 in SLI. (2 cards give you up to 193% performance with the latest drivers)

Ya i dont see myself ever having dual 480's im more of a single most powerful gpu kind of person but after seeing the bang for the buck of the dual 460's it has kinda made me think about going the sli direction over the single top dog card.

So say i were to get dual 460 1g versions. That would give me 2gb of video memory(maybe a little less due to 93% scaling) so say about 1.8gb of video memory as opposed to the GTX 480 1536MB. This should help me out better becasue i play all my games at 1920x1200 res. Would it be a significant increase at that resolution compared to the 480??
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July 27, 2010 8:46:29 PM

Timop said:
I think the best idea to this thread now is throw a dice. 1-3 is GTX460, 4-6 is GTX480.
Have fun. XD

haha thats great!!
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a b U Graphics card
July 27, 2010 8:47:57 PM

I edited my post above. -2 models from newegg witch might interest you.

It is not about scaling of the memory, it's scaling of the gaming power with 2 cards. One card is 100% and with 2 it is very hard to get 200%. With the latest drivers went up to 193% in a game and averages at ~180% i think in most games.

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a b U Graphics card
July 27, 2010 8:52:14 PM

Also here is a very important article that i suggest you read it. http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/geforce-gtx-460-sli-gefor...

GTX460 SLI VS GTX 480

This should end your doubt about the right decision.
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July 27, 2010 8:57:25 PM

lewdawg said:
Ya i dont see myself ever having dual 480's im more of a single most powerful gpu kind of person but after seeing the bang for the buck of the dual 460's it has kinda made me think about going the sli direction over the single top dog card.

So say i were to get dual 460 1g versions. That would give me 2gb of video memory(maybe a little less due to 93% scaling) so say about 1.8gb of video memory as opposed to the GTX 480 1536MB. This should help me out better becasue i play all my games at 1920x1200 res. Would it be a significant increase at that resolution compared to the 480??



check this out
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3810/nvidias-geforce-gtx-...

that's not even with the best 1GB 460s which are out now, so it would be scoring even higher results!
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a b U Graphics card
July 27, 2010 9:05:33 PM

^In the link above if you check the 1 G version in SLI and 768 Mb version ins SLI in crysis warhead you see a ~big difference in fps.
After you bought them and installed them post a picture if you want in a new thread so we can see your setup..he he..would like to see that.

You're welcome.
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July 27, 2010 9:17:12 PM

go for sli of gtx 460
what i see is that at the time when gtx 480 will retire there will be other damm awesome
cards and they will probably consume less power then dual gtx 480's since example is this 9800gt in sli draws more power then a single 5770 and they perform mostly the same

and by time gtx 480 will retire i dont think we will be using dx 11 at that time

must be dx 12 or 13
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a b U Graphics card
July 27, 2010 10:14:30 PM

Games barely came up with DX11 and there is only 1 generation of video cards that can use it. Where did you get the logical idea that by the time the gtx480 will retire we will have dx12 or 13?
It's more likely we will see dx11.1 but that is another story to tell for another era.
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a b U Graphics card
July 28, 2010 3:46:23 AM

You actually don't need 1gb versions of GTx460s. The 1gb is definatley worth the upgrade if its 1vs1. But when running SLI, the advantages of the extra cores and more memory is all but a moot point for running one 24" monitor.

Pickup two EVGA superclock 460's for 209.99 at newegg. No reason to spend the 50or60 more bucks for 1gb versions unless you're using some seriously big resolution/monitor
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July 28, 2010 3:57:30 AM

lowriderflow said:
You actually don't need 1gb versions of GTx460s. The 1gb is definatley worth the upgrade if its 1vs1. But when running SLI, the advantages of the extra cores and more memory is all but a moot point for running one 24" monitor.

Pickup two EVGA superclock 460's for 209.99 at newegg. No reason to spend the 50or60 more bucks for 1gb versions unless you're using some seriously big resolution/monitor


What are you talking about? The 1GB versions are better in SLI then the 768MB.
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July 28, 2010 4:06:13 AM

Helltech said:
What are you talking about? The 1GB versions are better in SLI then the 768MB.

Ya thats what i understand from all the benches and stuff ive seen. I dont think the 768mb versions would be adequate..
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July 28, 2010 4:08:46 AM

lewdawg said:
Ya thats what i understand from all the benches and stuff ive seen. I dont think the 768mb versions would be adequate..


They would work, but the 1GB versions are so much better, and the price difference is so small....
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July 28, 2010 10:16:21 AM

ionut19 said:
Games barely came up with DX11 and there is only 1 generation of video cards that can use it. Where did you get the logical idea that by the time the gtx480 will retire we will have dx12 or 13?
It's more likely we will see dx11.1 but that is another story to tell for another era.


my point is that an sli of 480 is not a good idea for future

he should get gtx 460 sli 4 now more powerfull abit more future proofing then gtx 480

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July 28, 2010 10:48:49 AM

Not to Storm your thoughs but if you see your self upgrading in the feature you can invest in a GTX480 which will do all you ask of it, and later in the future when there is a significant price drop you can purchase a second one and SLI it for maximum performance.
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July 28, 2010 12:52:26 PM

I think the 460 is Fermi's most mature form, and older Nvidia cards will follow its trails in the near future, so expect a revised versions of 480 and 470 with better performance and cooling, and lower power consumption, therefore the wise decision for the time being is to invest in 460, if you are looking towards 480, then wait few months.
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a b U Graphics card
July 28, 2010 1:00:11 PM

That is true in a way but just imagine the first one going over 100C and reaching 100%fan speed witch is very loud, and in another year burning out.
nvidia has 5 cases that they recommend for gtx480SLI..ha ha ha..read that somewhere, on their site i think.
The motherboard that lewdawg listed there has one slot between the PCI-E slots and that would have a negative impact on the GTX480.
The only way to have SLI without having issues with the gtx480 would be to buy the zotac gtx480 witch has a custom cooler that take's up 3 slots by the way or get a water cooled one if you do not want to buy a new heat sink for it and do the installation for yourself.
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July 28, 2010 6:43:12 PM

ionut19 said:
That is true in a way but just imagine the first one going over 100C and reaching 100%fan speed witch is very loud, and in another year burning out.
nvidia has 5 cases that they recommend for gtx480SLI..ha ha ha..read that somewhere, on their site i think.
The motherboard that lewdawg listed there has one slot between the PCI-E slots and that would have a negative impact on the GTX480.
The only way to have SLI without having issues with the gtx480 would be to buy the zotac gtx480 witch has a custom cooler that take's up 3 slots by the way or get a water cooled one if you do not want to buy a new heat sink for it and do the installation for yourself.


How would i sli a zotac gtx 480 if it takes up 3 slots haha? Thats all i got man, i have a 3-way sli mobo..
What were you saying about the slot in between making negative impact on the card?
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a b U Graphics card
July 28, 2010 6:50:14 PM

lewdawg said:
How would i sli a zotac gtx 480 if it takes up 3 slots haha? Thats all i got man, i have a 3-way sli mobo..
What were you saying about the slot in between making negative impact on the card?

Actually you're "supposed" to leave a slot in between when doing a normal SLI, for airflow purposes.

The AMP! is so not worth it IMO, get the cheapest GTX480 and buy this: http://www.gelidsolutions.com/products/index.php?lid=1&...
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July 28, 2010 6:55:42 PM

Timop said:
Actually you're "supposed" to leave a slot in between when doing a normal SLI, for airflow purposes.

The AMP! is so not worth it IMO, get the cheapest GTX480 and buy this: http://www.gelidsolutions.com/products/index.php?lid=1&...

that was my plan the whole time, i was actually bought the mis version for 459.99 and then cancelled it after changing my mind..
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July 28, 2010 7:34:40 PM

Timop said:
Actually you're "supposed" to leave a slot in between when doing a normal SLI, for airflow purposes.

The AMP! is so not worth it IMO, get the cheapest GTX480 and buy this: http://www.gelidsolutions.com/products/index.php?lid=1&...

Actually the 470 and 480 have a hole in the PCB that may well be there to negate that "need".



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July 28, 2010 8:33:21 PM

Timop said:
Actually you're "supposed" to leave a slot in between when doing a normal SLI, for airflow purposes.

The AMP! is so not worth it IMO, get the cheapest GTX480 and buy this: http://www.gelidsolutions.com/products/index.php?lid=1&...



You know that is a 3 slot cooler, no? (when installed on the video card)
It is like the cooler and radiator on this card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
He would have to place the video card in the first an 3'rd PCI-E slots to make it work. Hope the 3'rd won't affect any connections you might have at the bottom of the motherboard(i did not recheck for connections)
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July 29, 2010 12:32:10 AM

ionut19 said:
You know that is a 3 slot cooler, no? (when installed on the video card)
It is like the cooler and radiator on this card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
He would have to place the video card in the first an 3'rd PCI-E slots to make it work. Hope the 3'rd won't affect any connections you might have at the bottom of the motherboard(i did not recheck for connections)


It wouldnt work because my network card is right next to the 3rd slot. I would probably have to get a netgear usb wireless adapter to make sli work i think!!!
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July 29, 2010 1:17:59 AM

if your having problems fitting a SLI GTX470 or GTX480 you should look into
http://www.evga.com/articles/00539/
its pricier than the heatsink and fan counterparts but it does defiinetly perform its task at cooler and smaller dimension.
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July 29, 2010 2:01:47 AM

TheUnthinkingMajority said:
if your having problems fitting a SLI GTX470 or GTX480 you should look into
http://www.evga.com/articles/00539/
its pricier than the heatsink and fan counterparts but it does defiinetly perform its task at cooler and smaller dimension.


Thanks for showing me that.
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a b U Graphics card
July 29, 2010 2:09:50 AM

Beware that's not it though, you'll need to run a custom loop with a radiator and a reservoir and a couple of pumps.
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a b U Graphics card
July 29, 2010 2:11:16 AM

ionut19 said:
You know that is a 3 slot cooler, no? (when installed on the video card)
It is like the cooler and radiator on this card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
He would have to place the video card in the first an 3'rd PCI-E slots to make it work. Hope the 3'rd won't affect any connections you might have at the bottom of the motherboard(i did not recheck for connections)

The AMP! uses an Icy vision? Never knew that, thought it was just a similar cooler.
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a b U Graphics card
July 29, 2010 3:45:04 AM

Timop said:
Actually you're "supposed" to leave a slot in between when doing a normal SLI, for airflow purposes.

The AMP! is so not worth it IMO, get the cheapest GTX480 and buy this: http://www.gelidsolutions.com/products/index.php?lid=1&...


THAT is SO what I need for my GTX 470. :(  Wish I had $50 to waste!
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a b U Graphics card
July 29, 2010 8:35:01 AM

Timop said:
The AMP! uses an Icy vision? Never knew that, thought it was just a similar cooler.


I don't know if it is exactly the same cooler but it is a 3 slot and that i was trying to stand out.
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July 30, 2010 12:52:42 AM

What do you guys think about me getting two gtx 470's i just found them on newegg for 235 bucks on open box deal!!!!!
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July 30, 2010 1:03:58 AM

ionut19 said:
I don't know if it is exactly the same cooler but it is a 3 slot and that i was trying to stand out.

how about me getting two gtx 470's for 235 a piece and getting those in sli?
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