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September 3, 2010 11:02:39 PM

Hello,

I am building a new PC after 15 years of hirbernation. I fogot almost everything. So please bare with me. I use this PC for home use. some gaming, programming and other usage. I have bought following:

Core i5 760
Corsair XM3 4GB RAM
ASUS P7P55D-E PRO mobo
ASUS ENGT 240/D1/1GB RAM Video
Intel XM-25 M SSD
WD 1TB SATA 6G HDD
Thermaltake A6 case
Thermaltake 600W PS
NEC 23" LCD Display
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Sony DVD writer (IDE) I have from old system
HP CDROM (IDE) I have from old system

My questions are as follows:

1. I like to install Windows 7 and Other application on SSD Drive. How to configure SSD drive to get maximum performance ?
2. I like to install western difgital SATA 6 GB/s drive as storage of picture, movie and document. Which SATA port to select ? Is it in BIOS ?
3. How to install IDE CDROM and DVD writer ? What order and how ?
4. I have EX DVD Copier software. Will it run on Windows 7 64 bit configuration ?
5. Do I need to configure dual boot. SSD for Win 7 and SATA drive for Wn XP for application compatibility ?
6. How to configure for dual OS boot ?
7. Does ASUS board has any plug and play option ?

Is ther any step-by-step guide for new build. I will really appreciate your kind advice and comment.

Thank You.
September 4, 2010 1:28:01 AM

Here are two good threads for your build process help...

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274745-31-step-step-g...
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-read-postin...

1) As for some of your other questions, I would check out the "Storage" forum for the SSD sticky. It provides some useful links throughout the thread.

2) Your second hard drive (WD) is installed on any open SATA port on your motherboard. Typically, the SATA_0 port is used for your boot drive.

3) I would recommend dropping the IDE DVD drives to get SATA drives. Your system's cooling and cable management will be better without the bulk of IDE cables.

4) I don't know??

5) If you want to run a dual boot, I would do a dual boot with Win7 on SSD & XP on WD.

6) Just Google how to setup a dual boot system. There are plenty of "guides"

7) Yes

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September 4, 2010 1:53:27 AM

tecmo34 said:
Here are two good threads for your build process help...

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274745-31-step-step-g...
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-read-postin...

1) As for some of your other questions, I would check out the "Storage" forum for the SSD sticky. It provides some useful links throughout the thread.

2) Your second hard drive (WD) is installed on any open SATA port on your motherboard. Typically, the SATA_0 port is used for your boot drive.

3) I would recommend dropping the IDE DVD drives to get SATA drives. Your system's cooling and cable management will be better without the bulk of IDE cables.

4) I don't know??

5) If you want to run a dual boot, I would do a dual boot with Win7 on SSD & XP on WD.

6) Just Google how to setup a dual boot system. There are plenty of "guides"

7) Yes



Thank you tecmo34. I really appreciate you taking time and guiding me through. I am waiting for case and power supply. They are on the way. I cannot wait to start. I will be reading all the articles and let you know how the build went.

Thank You,
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September 9, 2010 8:41:31 PM

tecmo34 said:
Here are two good threads for your build process help...

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274745-31-step-step-g...
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-read-postin...

1) As for some of your other questions, I would check out the "Storage" forum for the SSD sticky. It provides some useful links throughout the thread.

2) Your second hard drive (WD) is installed on any open SATA port on your motherboard. Typically, the SATA_0 port is used for your boot drive.

3) I would recommend dropping the IDE DVD drives to get SATA drives. Your system's cooling and cable management will be better without the bulk of IDE cables.

4) I don't know??

5) If you want to run a dual boot, I would do a dual boot with Win7 on SSD & XP on WD.

6) Just Google how to setup a dual boot system. There are plenty of "guides"

7) Yes


Hi tecmo34,

Finally I got all th eparts and put it together last night. I was surprised to see it has minor glitches. I would appreciate if you can advice. Following are my problems:

1. When I connected SSD to SATA 1 in mobo and WD 6GB/s drive to SATA 6gb/s port. Systems does not recognize SSD, it only sees one drive. I then move WD 6GB/s drive to SATA 2 (3gb/s) port and now it sees both of them. Is there any issue with the ASUS board or controller ? Do I have to use SATA 6gb/s cable ? Any advice.

2. Aftter finding both drive on SATA1 and 2 by BIOS. I installed Windows 7. Now in Windows 7 I only see SSD drive, not my WD drive. Do I need to format the WD drive in order for me to see.

Besides that, this is my first windows 7 installtion and I really like the OS. Please let me know if you can help.
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September 9, 2010 9:34:27 PM

Overall Question... Did you set the SATA controllers to AHCI (needed for SSD for TRIM support)? If not, follow the directions in this thread (best answer)... http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/255232-32-next-move-f...

1) So I understand this in my mind... You had the SSD in SATA_1 port and the WD in the SATA III port (don't know the port number) and it only sees the WD drive? Also, it shouldn't matter if they are connected to the motherboard by SATA III connectors, as it is backwards compatible. When you put both WD on SATA_2 port, you could see both drives now? Did you try and move the SSD to SATA_3 and the WD on the SATA III drive or different slots?

2) You will need to format the WD drive to see it in Windows.
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September 9, 2010 10:08:32 PM

tecmo34 said:
Overall Question... Did you set the SATA controllers to AHCI (needed for SSD for TRIM support)? If not, follow the directions in this thread (best answer)... http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/255232-32-next-move-f...

1) So I understand this in my mind... You had the SSD in SATA_1 port and the WD in the SATA III port (don't know the port number) and it only sees the WD drive? Also, it shouldn't matter if they are connected to the motherboard by SATA III connectors, as it is backwards compatible. When you put both WD on SATA_2 port, you could see both drives now? Did you try and move the SSD to SATA_3 and the WD on the SATA III drive or different slots?

2) You will need to format the WD drive to see it in Windows.

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No I did not. I will do that.

1. I have 6 sata II port and 2 sata III port. Initially I coonected SSD to Sata II and WD to SATA III. It did not work. When I changed both to SATA II it is working.

2. Can I format the WD drive using windows 7 disk manager utilities or do I have to use DOS command ?

Thank you for you rinput.
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September 9, 2010 10:12:52 PM

2) Right click Compuer and select Manage. Select Disk Management and format from there
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September 10, 2010 1:40:21 AM

tecmo34 said:
2) Right click Compuer and select Manage. Select Disk Management and format from there



Sorry to buy you one more time. Formatting is done and now windows see 2 drive. Thank you.

I changed BIOS setup to AHCI and windows will not start anymore. I changed it back to IDE and Windows is working now. What is the best way to change from IDE to AHCI once Windows 7 is installed? I read couple of article and they are for different motherboard. Do you have any advice ?
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September 10, 2010 2:45:52 AM

Techmo34... you are the best................ it works.. Thank you...

I have few other issues related to WD drive data transfer rate.. Let me work it out.


Thank you for all your help..
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September 11, 2010 11:36:56 PM

tecmo34 said:
2) Right click Compuer and select Manage. Select Disk Management and format from there

Tecmo34

I really need your help. I installed 32 bit version earlier by mistake. Now I want to install 64 bit, but before that I tried to format c: drive my SSD and not been able to do that. When I use win 7 computer management tools to format my SSD. It does not allow me.

Looks like my SSD has two partiton. (Systems reserved 100MB NTFS and drive c: 74.5GB)

I triel to reinstall Win 7 again and it ran and installed on top of my old win7 32 and still 32 bit version. I do not have a floppy drive on the new machine. Can yoy please let me know what do. My knowlegde in very limited.

How can I fromat SSD and reinstall Win 7 64 bit.

Can I use Win 7 DISKPART and what is the format command ?

I am stuck. Please help

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September 12, 2010 2:57:19 AM

You want to do a Secure Erase with HDDErase.exe; which is a DOS-program. It may also be included in a boot CD-ROM like Ultimate Boot CD or Hiren's Boot CD. This is easier to use as these may already include HDDErase. Basically, you want to download and use the Ultimate Boot CD to format your SDD. You will have to do a fresh install, as everything will be gone :) 
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September 12, 2010 7:58:51 PM

tecmo34 said:
You want to do a Secure Erase with HDDErase.exe; which is a DOS-program. It may also be included in a boot CD-ROM like Ultimate Boot CD or Hiren's Boot CD. This is easier to use as these may already include HDDErase. Basically, you want to download and use the Ultimate Boot CD to format your SDD. You will have to do a fresh install, as everything will be gone :) 



I am having hard time to download ultimate Boot CD. I did once and CD does not boot up. It says something "Linix". Is ther a windows version ? Do you have anything I can download ? I will appreciate.

Thank you,
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September 13, 2010 12:08:05 AM

Are you downloading the .iso version & burning to a disk??
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September 13, 2010 1:54:00 AM

tecmo34 said:
Are you downloading the .iso version & burning to a disk??



I down loaded Ultimate Boot CD two times. Both are iso file and used ISOburn to create CD. When I start PC from CD, it gives me following error:

"ISOLINUX 3.86
ISOLINUX:D ISK ERROR 80, AX=4253
Boot Failed , please press any key to delete"

Do you think I am installing LINUX version ? DO you know any place had Windows one. Please let me know.

Thanks,
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September 13, 2010 2:57:06 AM

tecmo34 said:
Here is the site... http://www.ubcd4win.com/downloads.htm



Thank You. I am downloading now. I also have Hirens.BootCD.11._9Down.com.rar file. But is there anyway to extrat that ? I tried ZIP and does not work. Also this morning I tried to install the UBCDwinv350 and it is asking me Source directory > Is the source my c:windows. ? It says cannot find C;\windows\386.??
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September 13, 2010 3:16:15 AM

Google & Download the trail version of WinRAR to open the Hirens.BootCD.11._9Down.com.rar file.
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September 13, 2010 4:23:37 AM

tecmo34 said:
Google & Download the trail version of WinRAR to open the Hirens.BootCD.11._9Down.com.rar file.



Ok.. I just downloaded the file UBCi4win.exe file and ram setup, it installed icon in my desktop and ran the following:

Searching C: ( SSD)
Searching D: (WD Drive)
Searching E: (Windows 7 DVD DISK)
Searching F: ( CD_ROM Drive)

Number of valid source code found 0

Am I doing something wrong here ??
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September 13, 2010 4:26:21 AM

You want to burn the .iso / file to a Cd and boot from it. It is not a Windows application (that I'm aware of at least :)  )
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September 13, 2010 4:35:12 AM

tecmo34 said:
You want to burn the .iso / file to a Cd and boot from it. It is not a Windows application (that I'm aware of at least :)  )



http://www.ubcd4win.com/downloads.htm

I went to the site you have mentioned and downloaded UBCD4win. Once it is downloaded, it asked me to open the file and then it installed. Let me again llok for the .ISO file.

Thanks,
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September 14, 2010 12:30:37 AM

Hi Tecmo34,

Finally I made the bootable CD for Hiren 11.0. My system is booting up from CD-ROM. I also changed back from AHCI to IDE mode. I selected HDD utility and HDD Secure Erase 4.0. Once I clicked ok to proceed, it stays there for long time. Does not ask me to select what hard drive to erase. Is there any tricks or other utility to erase my SSD. Please let me know.

Thank You,
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September 14, 2010 4:31:41 AM

tecmo34 said:
You want to burn the .iso / file to a Cd and boot from it. It is not a Windows application (that I'm aware of at least :)  )



Hi Tecmo34,

I need your help... I am stuck here man.

I got the Hiren BootCD 11.0 working and used HDDERASE 4.0 from cd-rom. The HDDERASE 4.0 just sits there with the curser blinking. I then read couple of other thread and got a bootcd with HDDERASE 3.3. Once I ran the utility, it sits ther and does not do anything. It does not find SSD or ask me anything.

I changed mobo seeting from AHCI to IDE. Configure CD-ROM as first boot device and ran. Is there any other seeting I am missing ? Or does my ASUS P7P55D-E Pro mobo ahs any issue ?

Please help... I am stuck and do not know anyone who had PC background..

Thanks,
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September 14, 2010 2:15:21 PM

interfaceman said:
I really need your help. I installed 32 bit version earlier by mistake. Now I want to install 64 bit, but before that I tried to format c: drive my SSD and not been able to do that. When I use win 7 computer management tools to format my SSD. It does not allow me.

Looks like my SSD has two partiton. (Systems reserved 100MB NTFS and drive c: 74.5GB)

I triel to reinstall Win 7 again and it ran and installed on top of my old win7 32 and still 32 bit version. I do not have a floppy drive on the new machine. Can yoy please let me know what do. My knowlegde in very limited.

How can I fromat SSD and reinstall Win 7 64 bit.


You're not able to format the SSD from inside windows, because the drive is in use. It's what is running the operating system that you're trying to wipe out. Formatting the C drive always needs to be done outside of windows.

Your partitions above are fine. Those are just the file system and the storage space.

If you want to reinstall windows, my recommendation would be to just use the windows 7 disc, and use the format option. Look at the link here. Down at the bottom, you'll see another link to 'using the custom installation option and formatting the hard disk.' Click that link, and it'll expand to show you directions on how to do it. This will format your hard drive as it installs windows.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Installing-...

Once you're done, and windows is installed, browse out to C:\windows.old....If that file is there, you can either restore some of your old files, or delete it. During the install process, windows creates that file to back up user data. It's a fail-safe that some like, and some don't.

Hope this helps...
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September 14, 2010 5:56:57 PM

aford10 said:
You're not able to format the SSD from inside windows, because the drive is in use. It's what is running the operating system that you're trying to wipe out. Formatting the C drive always needs to be done outside of windows.

Your partitions above are fine. Those are just the file system and the storage space.

If you want to reinstall windows, my recommendation would be to just use the windows 7 disc, and use the format option. Look at the link here. Down at the bottom, you'll see another link to 'using the custom installation option and formatting the hard disk.' Click that link, and it'll expand to show you directions on how to do it. This will format your hard drive as it installs windows.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Installing-...

Once you're done, and windows is installed, browse out to C:\windows.old....If that file is there, you can either restore some of your old files, or delete it. During the install process, windows creates that file to back up user data. It's a fail-safe that some like, and some don't.

Hope this helps...

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Thank you for your reply.

I used Hiren bootable CD to boot from CD-ROM and used HDDERASE 3.3 and 4.0, both cases in just sat there and did not do any format on the SSD drive. I will try windows today. I read many articles on this forum and uesers advised to use HDDERASE copy to clean the SSD and do a new install.
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September 14, 2010 6:07:19 PM

There are certainly more secure ways to permanently erase data from a hard drive. But unless you're going to sell the hard drive, it's not as big of an issue. The windows format process will erase everything, and the new install will write new data in the sectors.
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September 15, 2010 3:28:52 PM

Thank you everyone for your advice. Last night I completed my istallation and two way it can be done as many have advised. Using HDDERASE and other utility does not work.

1. Use Win7 DVD and choose custom install and format the drive.

2. Use Intel SSD toolkit 2.0, has option to secure erase the SSD but it has to be hooked as secondary drive to another system.
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September 15, 2010 3:30:42 PM

So all is well, and you're up and running?
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September 15, 2010 4:09:10 PM

Good to know... I'll keep in my of using the Intel SSD Toolkit 2.0 or higher on future request of SSD formatting.
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September 22, 2010 1:36:02 AM

Best answer selected by InterfaceMan.
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