Latest Sandy Bridge News

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I'll start it off and anyone who cares to contribute anything they find about Sandy Bridge can chime in with their discoveries if they want.

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meld...-Intels-naechster-CPU-Generation-1141655.html

It's in German but the chart is the important thing and it doesn't really need much translation. Not much really exciting news but the dual cores with HT might be good sellers on the low end if "The Price Is Right."
 

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I have seen the exact same chart some where in English, but without the product code I believe, just this week, I'll be danged if i can find it though. I'll post it if I come across it again.

Here it is: http://www.techeye.net/hardware/biostar-shows-off-sandy-bridge-support#ixzz16AwldGNM , its not a chart(I must have been thinking about the Anandtech Sandybridge Preview article with a similar made chart) and all they have done is listed the s-spec of the CPU's as the Germans have done, and given some details on an upcoming Biostar mothernoard.

Speaking of motherboards here are a few Gigabyte and Asus Sandybridge boards:

http://www.overclockers.com/gigabyte-unveils-p67h67-sandy-bridge-motherboards/

http://hw-lab.com/asus-lga-1155-motherboard-line-up-preview.html
 

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Yeah, what was interesting about the German chart was that HT dual core turbo. Veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery interesting! That could be one heck of a great CPU for a lot of people on a budget.

Nice to see more info on those mobos. Looks like there are going to be a whole whack of really good H67 mobos ready in time for Sandy! :)
 

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Are you referring to the Core i5-2390T? Thats a power saver chip, with a 3.5GHz turbo! Or the Core i3-2120, I would like to know those turbo numbers they left out on that chip. :) Unless they don't have a turbo but I highly doubt that.
 

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Amazing chart with a whole whack of Sandies with prices and release dates (if they're real) on:

http://extensiv.info/index.html

Ten Sandys on Jan 9 with 5 more in Feb. And the 2600K is at $317 here. Just $23 over the plain vanilla 2600! Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! :bounce:

The blogger also takes a good stripe out of AMD. Maybe an AMD Exec had an affair with his wife! Yikes! :eek:
 

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I agree with you that it's pretty stupid to unlock for a few extra bucks, but since some other reports were showing the K models at a much greater premium, it's better this way. I can also see why Intel would offer a non-OCable CPU. Most people don't even know what overclocking is, let alone would ever be interested in doing it. For my rig, when I'm being critically aware of heat (I'm trying to go fanless) I wouldn't buy the K. But it is good for those who want to push the limits. Glad to see that Sandy can do it. :)
 

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Nice find on those prices halfcalf! :) , I sure hope those are close to, or are the real thing, because that would be absolutely awesome in my eyes! I was kind of expecting the prices that Anandtech had made an educated guess on back in the middle of September, but these are much better.

expreview102610.jpg


I just thought I would throw this in here for the lazies :) and for quick reference. Too bad no info on the 2011's but that is quite some time away yet. :( I am liking those power numbers also, always good thing to get them lower.

That guy really does have some un-kind words for AMD, :p
 

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Yeah, I love those prices. They're absolutely right where they should be to make a real dent in the market. If these are correct, then anyone even remotely considering buying anything right now should have their head examined. The price/performance on these CPUs is awesome.

The guy has an axe to grind with AMD the size of an oil tanker. Personally, I think he's taking it a bit too far. Maybe he was traumatized by a K5 when he was a little kid! :lol:
 

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Yeah, those prices look to be at a good spot to me, I wonder what the current gen. prices will do?

I have been beating myself up all month for not going ahead with a planned 1366 build and not using the 10% off mobo deal Newegg.com had at the beginning of the month, but this makes me feel better.

Yeah, that guy really takes it to far to the point its funny :lol: He must have been traumatized by something, maybe he was held to much, or lost a ton of money when his AMD stock crashed :) I am surprised someone would publish that rant even.
 

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I can't see Intel holding current pricing on the Core iX series. They are going to have to come in line with these so that could mean around a 40% decrease across the board, the way I figure it. It's a great time to be in the market for a system... whether you're in the market for a Nehalem/Westmere or a Sandy!

Dude probably bought AMD at $30+ and sold at $1.65 so he's kicking himself. Although he's way off base about Bulldozer's performance as there are really no specs to make a determination as to whether it really will be a good performer, you have to admit that he does have a point about Riuz and Barcelona. That was a huge fiasco. :)
 

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Yeah, I like Intel and I will probably keep on using there CPU's, but at the same time I don't wish for their only CPU competitor to fall on hard times or even fall to far behind, because then we lose all the great things like the tic-tok upgrade cycle and these fairly reasonable prices, were are enjoying on both sides.

Anyone should be able to figure out a little competition never hurt anyone. Heck... that saying is older than dirt and its still true to this day.
 

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When it looked like AMD was teetering on the edge a couple of years back I remember reading an article about a post-AMD world where Intel dual core 2.5 GHz CPUs would sell for $2,000. You have to have some competition to keep everything fair and on an even keel, although even the mightiest monopolies sooner or later crumble. Who would have thought five years ago that Microsoft would be on the edge of irrelevance in 2010? So even though I'm not overly inclined to go back to AMD if these Sandy prices are correct (I was an AMDite for many years until they lost their edge), I certainly don't wish an Intel monopoly now or ever!
 

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Yeah, it would not be a world I would want to live in, but I would hope the govt. would allow them to fail, heck they saved banks and all they do is take people money from them! And they have been in Microsoft's and Intel's business a lot over anti-competitive practices in the past.
 

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Pleeeeeeeeeeez don't get me started on that bailout disaster. Americans will be paying for that stupidity for decades. Up here in Canada our banks have been criticized since WWII for being too tight with credit and qualifications but it was those very conservative banking policies that allowed us to squeak through without a noticeable real estate crisis, unlike the USA where anyone who could fog a mirror would qualify for a $0 down half a million dollar mortgage, and the whole bubble popped.

Anti-trust is a great tool but it is not used anywhere near enough. Three letters: N-F-L come to mind. But there are many others. I'm far more worried about Google as an unstoppable monopoly than I am about Intel or Microsoft. Google is stealthily taking over the known universe, and it seems that nobody really cares. That's strange!

Anyway, all good wishes possible to AMD and although I'm 99.9% sure now that I'm going to buy a Sandy on Jan. 10, I hope that AMD can get back in the game with Bulldozer.
 

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That makes me want to rant, but I will restrain myself. Otherwise, I'm just going to rant on and on about it. :kaola:

Here's a translated site that has news on SB and BD and even Cayman:
http://en.inpai.com.cn/

I don't know how much of the Sandy Bridge article is true, but it seems to show only a small increase in many applications, ~6%.
The clocks look like they will be increased a good amount though, so it could still end up being a great speed increase once overclocked even if this is true.
 


Yep - if it turns out true, that 2600K price is a real eye-opener. Anandtech "guessed" that it would be in the $500 range. I just hope the "S" or low-power mobile versions are out soon as I need a new lappy.

As for the website author, I think a lot of these guys are just angling for hits for their advertisers. All that hyperbole and rhetoric isn't doing anything for me personally, except make me think he's fulla used food items :p. I haven't seen any benchies on Bulldozer yet, and it's supposed to be a leap forward. I'd like to see this guy's sources, if any..
 

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If Bulldozer isn't a good 20% increase in performance, it's most likely dead in the water anyway, and we haven't heard anything from AMD whether or not it's that big or bigger. Seems like AMD would want to say if they had a golden processor, and Intel seems afraid of whether or not it is going to be a good one; maybe Intel is just being nice and not charging us an arm and a leg for their midrange? :whistle:
 

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Those prices look just great if you live in the "New World" but us "Old World" inhabitants, especially those of us who live on an island known fondly as "Treasure Island" by the financial sharks, will most probably be paying a premium on top of that price. Then of course, we have our 17.5% VAT to add onto that price (dont laff Yanks coz it`ll be coming to a city near you real soon) which can be a real screamer when its added onto a big shopping list. For Instance: on New Egg an i7 950 $280 which translates to £179.60 but at our on-line hardware store the same chip is £239.33 translated to $373 so you see its not quite gloatsville central for all of us.

As for the guys diatribe i dont give much credence to totally bias drivel thats based on opinionated assertion rather than solid facts; besides, even if AMD dont take the desktop performance crown their market ppl will continue to target their sweet spot policy at various points on the scale and do the best they can with what they have to work with and there is always something an AMD chip can do better than an Intel chip; im scratching my head here at the minute..... floating point something or other.....perhaps someone else more informed about these things could help.

Me ? I`ll be selling & saving from now until March til i can grab me one of them Sandies mmmmmmmhh! :drool:
 

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Wow I hope that those taxes at least get used for something useful over there; they'd be wasted over here in America in no time.

Talking about Floating Point Units/FPU or Floating Points? Floating points are just numbers with decimals at the end like 3.14159168, basically anything that isn't an integer. The FPUs calculate these floating points, and Intel has a very strong FPU compared to AMD right now; Folding@Home stresses the FPU quite a bit, and Intel pushes out nearly twice the Points per day(doesn't mean it's twice as powerful due to multipliers for turning Work units in faster).
 


I dunno - I'm hoping BD is a great leap forward as AMD seems to be making a lot of changes according to the Realworldtech preview. Whether the '80% throughput of 2 full cores' hyperthreading will make much difference to gamers, remains to be seen but it should have some excellent multithreaded scores in rendering, compression and encoding I'd think.

Ever since the Barcelona public relations disaster AMD has been pretty closed-mouth about up & coming CPU performance. Still, with the desktop version of BD supposed to be less than 6 months away, you'd think we would see some leaks here & there. Maybe AMD is sending out their engineering samples with armed escorts, ready to shoot the first leaker :p..
 

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No, don't rant. Take a Valium, think happy thoughts, sing Xmas carols... you'll feel better soon! :pt1cable:



I think he has all the sources he needs inside his noggin. Maybe he'll want to take a sword to some AMD exec's head because the voices said they're the devil, even without a role on "Ugly Betty." :ouch:



I know that jf-amd has been explaining that it's company policy, etc. but I agree with you that AMD has to tease the enthusiasts with a few crumbs soon or Bulldozer will just get lost in the Sandy avalanche.



That blogger might be an a-hole, but I think he really nailed that fiasco with:

"Then AMD CEO Dr. Ruiz took an ill-advised vacation to Barcelona and the company choked worse than after eating mussel tapas with Vibrio cholerae sauce." :lol: