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APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: 1-3 weeks

BUDGET RANGE: $4000-4250 before rebates

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, organizing photos/music/videos, web browsing, office work

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Nothing (need everything)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg, Amazon (need to limit to 2-3 sites--more details below)

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

PARTS PREFERENCES: Intel CPU, ATI GPU, Mid-tower case, 3X monitors in EyeFinity, blue color scheme

OVERCLOCKING: No

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe later

MONITOR RESOLUTION: Would like 1920x1200 but will probably get 1920x1080 to keep costs down

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:
I've never built a computer, but I've removed and installed everything inside various computers except a CPU and motherboard. That was back in the Pentium III-IV era though, so it's been a while and a lot has changed.

One of the benefits at the company where I work is that they will pay half of the purchase price of a new PC, up to $2000. I'd like to keep the cost to around $2000-2250 out of pocket, so that would be $4000-4250 total. Also, to keep the billing simple for the accounting department to process, I need to keep the number of sites from which I buy the parts down to two or three.

Ordinarily, I would buy a ~$2000 computer every three years or so, but since my company is paying for half of it, I figure I should get a $4000 computer with the goal of it lasting five years or so.

Right now, my only computer is an underpowered laptop, so I'm really looking forward to having a computer where I can organize all my photos, documents, and bills. I also want to join this century and get an MP3 player and rip all my CDs to the computer.

I also plan on gaming on it. I do most of my gaming on my Xbox 360, PS3, and Wii, but I will do some gaming on the PC. Most of the first-person shooters I'll probably play on the console, but strategy games are much better (and more widely available) on the PC, and I've really missed playing them, having not had a PC fast enough to run any of them for five years. I'll probably go back and catch up on some of the ones I've missed like Age of Empires III and the Total War series, but I also want to be able play ones released in the next five years.

I've been spoiled by dual monitors at work, so I'd like to get more than one monitor. For gaming, though, two monitors would be kind of awkard, so I might as well go for three running in EyeFinity. That said, they'll need to be DisplayPort compatible and preferably IPS to avoid viewing angle issues if I run them in portrait mode. I'm looking for three monitors in the 21-24" range (bigger would be better but not financially reasonable). It's looking like 1920x1200 will be out of the price range, since I'll be getting three of them, so I'll have to settle for 1920x1080. The last time I gamed on a PC, the resolution was 1024x768, so 1920x1080 will be plenty for me.

I don't really want to tinker with the PC much after I've set it up, so I'm going to avoid overclocking unless it's really necessary. I also would rather avoid RAID for now--I might upgrade to it later. For the video card, I'd rather get one powerful now with the option to drop in another one in Crossfire/SLI later rather than having two now.

With all that said, here's the list of parts I've picked out (prices include shipping but are before rebates):

Case: Cooler Master Centurion 5 II $60
Case fans (top, two side): Cooler Master R4-S4S-10AK-GP 140mm $13x3 = $39
Power Supply: CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W $140
CPU: Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz $300
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master RR-UV8-XBU1-GP $60
Motherboard: MSI Big Bang-XPower LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX $305
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 $10
RAM: Corsair Dominator 12GB (6x2GB) DDR3-1600 8-8-8-24 $410
Video Card: SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100281VX-2SR Radeon HD 5870 1GB $400
Boot Drive (SSD): OCZ Vertex 2 120GB SATA II $294
Data Drive: Caviar Black 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB cache SATA 3.0 Gb/s $180
DVD Burner: Lite-On iHAS424-98 Black 24X DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Burner with LightScribe $32
Media Reader: SABRENT CRW-UINB 68-in-1 $17
Monitor: Dell UltraSharp U2311H 23”W $289x3 = $867
Keyboard: Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 $42
Mouse: Logitech Performance Mouse MX $88
Speakers: Logitech Z-2300 200 watts RMS 2.1 $148
Printer: HP Officejet Pro 8500 Premier CB025A $278
UPS: APC BR1300LCD $190
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium Full $183
Antivirus: Norton Internet Security 2010 $50
Office: Microsoft Office Home & Student $124

Total price (before rebates): $4217
Company discount: -$2000
Out of pocket cost: $2217


These are the parts I've chosen after researching all weekend. I'm open to suggestions, though.

Are there any incompatibilities here? Is this overkill?

Thanks in advance.
 
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You're spending too little on the case, wasting $50 on Antivirus when MSE is great for free and a little too muh RAM for my taste.

Case: CM 690 II Advanced: $90 A better quality and more robust case.
Case Fan: None $0 The 3 fans in the case is perfectly enough for cooling.
Power supply: Seasonic X-650 $142 Efficiency, you can run 2 5870s fine with it also.
CPU: Keep $300
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Balder $45 Very nice cooler, you don't really need it anyways since you're not OCing.
Motherboard: ASUS P6X58D-E $215 Personally I perfer Asus, with better Mobos youre paying for feature your not going to use anyway.
TIM None $0 The Cooler comes with some I think.
RAM...

wet3

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Thanks for the tips. I forgot to mention: for the case, I prefer a simple, clean look (I'll add that to my original post), which is why I picked the Centurion 5 II. The RC-692 is nice too and does have the simple look I want. I actually had a hard time deciding between that and the Centurion 5 II. Maybe I'll go with the RC-692.

Do you think 6GB RAM will be plenty for the next five years, or should I go ahead and get 12GB now just in case?
 
the 692 has better cooling is a bit bigger and has better cable management

most people are hardly maxing out 4gb these days 6 gb would last maybe through intel's next gen,but i'd hold onto 6 gb for now and see what intel brings to the table next year if its nothing major over 1366 you can upgrade to 12 gb ram if you want to
 

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Sorry to say that but that's a very weak build for the price!
I changed almost everything, though I kept things like anti-virus, mouse, keyboard, which most of the time depends basically just on personal preference.
I changed the monitors for cheaper ones, they don't have display port so I added at the list a display port to vga adapter.

For this case you won't need more case fans...

Case - Silverstone FT-01 - $180 after rebates - $210 before
CPU - Intel i7 980x - $1000
CPU Cooler - Corsair H50- $80
Motherboard - MSI Big Bang-XPower LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - $300
Thermal Compound - Arctic Cooling mx-2 - $10
RAM - G.SKILL 6gb (3x2gb) - $140
Video Card - ATI 5970 - $650
Boot Drive - Intel 40gb SSD- $100
Data Drives - 3X Samsung F3 500GB in RAID 0$55 each , total $165
DVD Burner - $20
Monitors - 3X ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor $179 each after rebates, total $570 before rebates
Keyboard - $42
Mouse - $80
Speakers - $70
Printer - $265
OS - Windows 7 Home Premium OEM 64bits - $100
Office - $122
Anti-virus - $50
 

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Don't step down from those Dell ultrasharps. I've seen some Eyefinity setups with TN panels and they suck because the side monitors always have TN's crappy vieweing angles. Those Dells are good.
 

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You're spending too little on the case, wasting $50 on Antivirus when MSE is great for free and a little too muh RAM for my taste.

Case: CM 690 II Advanced: $90 A better quality and more robust case.
Case Fan: None $0 The 3 fans in the case is perfectly enough for cooling.
Power supply: Seasonic X-650 $142 Efficiency, you can run 2 5870s fine with it also.
CPU: Keep $300
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Balder $45 Very nice cooler, you don't really need it anyways since you're not OCing.
Motherboard: ASUS P6X58D-E $215 Personally I perfer Asus, with better Mobos youre paying for feature your not going to use anyway.
TIM None $0 The Cooler comes with some I think.
RAM: G-Skil Pi DDR3 1600 CAS7 12GB $337 Better RAM for less money, why not?
GPU: Keep $400
SSD: Mushkin Callisto Deluze 120GB $263 Same SSD for less.
Data drive: Samsung F4 2TB $120 667GB platters, cool and quiet.
DVD Burner: LG Burner $18 Why pay more?
Media reader: Keep $17
Monitor: Keep $867
Keyboard: Keep $42
Mouse: Keep $88
Speaker: Keep $148
Printer: Keep $278
UPS: Keep $190
OS: Win 7 Home premium System Builders pack $100 Unless you like switching Mobos, then there isn't a big difference, besides a box.
Antivirus: MSE $0 MSE+Malwarebytes is a powerful yet free solution thats less of a resource hog and annoyance compared to Norton.
Office: Keep $124
Adapter: $20

Total: $3803
Same quality parts and IPS screen. Blow $200 on something fun.
 
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unless you gonna run it on air and hope you haven got a psu


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ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
COOLER MASTER COSMOS S RC-1100-KKN1-GP Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case
2x SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
HP Officejet Pro 8500 Premier CB025A Up to 35 ppm 4800 x 1200 dpi Wireless InkJet MFC / All-In-One Color Printer
SAPPHIRE 100280SR Radeon HD 5970 (Hemlock) 2GB 512 (256 x 2)-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
ABS SL series SL1050 1050W Continuous @50°C ,80 PLUS SILVER Certified,Modular Cable Design,"Compatible with Core i7, i5" Power Supply
Logitech X-540 70 watts 5.1 Speakers
RAZER Lycosa Black USB Wired Game Keyboard
COOLER MASTER SGM-6000-KLLW1-GP Sentinel Advance Black 8 Buttons Wired Laser 5600 dpi Mouse
SABRENT CRW-UINB 68-in-1 USB 2.0 Internal Card Reader w/ USB 2.0 Port supports SDHC/VISTA
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound
MSI Big Bang-XPower LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders
Symantec Norton Internet
Microsoft Office 2010 Home & Student 3-Users
Corsair Force CSSD-F60GB2-BRKT 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Intel Core i7-980X Extreme Edition Gulftown 3.33GHz LGA 1366 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80613I7980X
CORSAIR Cooling Hydro Series CWCH50-1 120mm High Performance CPU Cooler - Retail


$3,560.80
 

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Get a better case, you need a nice case for a nice computer. That is an office pc case... the Haf 912 just came out, get that. its only 50 bucks and its made for gaming... and it looks cool.... it just came out so it may not be in stores yet
 

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Well thats TN. Some people need/prefer the better color accuracy on the IPS panels of the Dells.
However, anything below 10ms is fine for general gaming, maybe except a few select FPSes.
 

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Generally the IPS panels end up ahead in the actual frame being drawn because they have less input lag (due to nicer integrated image processors) than TNs. You'll be hardpressed to see ghosting below 10ms.
 

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I second Timop's build. Use that $200 bucks for something that you'll keep for a while. If it were me I'd get a nicer pair of speakers or a nice pair of headphones.

I like these for speakers $200 a pair and they sound amazing.

http://audioengineusa.com/Store/Audioengine-2

For headphones I like the Grado sr60i for sub $100 and usually don't look beyond that because they are great for their price. Some people find the mid range too forward, but I don't really mind it.

There is always the 7.1 headset you can get. The Logitech G35 is good. You also said that you wanted an mp3 player so you could always spend the money there. Get an iPod or if you don't like apple get a creative, sony, zune, cowon, archos, sansa, etc.

@blackhawk
The 980x also cost $700 more. The money could be better used else where, like getting the dell ultrasharps as opposed to some crappy TN monitor. He'll keep the monitors for a long time even after this build is gone.
 

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that was a typo, :p, I forgot the post the PSU, at the list I made it was included, i just forgot to post it, the price that I posted is with PSU, the PSU i had selected was the CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W
 

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Ok, here's what I might do. Feel free to take nothing from this, just browsed around for a bunch of combo deals!

Maybe my favorite deal first:

Case/PSU: Corsair Obsidian 800D Full Tower Case/ 850 80+ Gold Certified Professional series PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.499901

GPU/CPU: 5970/i7-950
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.498929

Office/AntiVirus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.487982

Mobo: ASUS Rampage III extreme w/ DVD burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.496790

SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 120 GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227551

Cooler: Corsair h70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181013

RAM: GSkill Ripjaws 12 Gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231356

Windows Pro OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116758

Case Fans: x3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103078

Thermal compound: Same
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007

Card Reader:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820300608

Mouse:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104321

Keyboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109148

Speakers
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836121006

Printer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16828115417

HDD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152245

Monitor: x3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001421

Total = 4236$
 

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Thanks for all the advice, everyone.

I have a few questions:
1) Is going from 7-8-7-24-2N RAM to 6-8-6-20 RAM worth an extra $70?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231354 (CAS6)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231331 (CAS7)

2) Is the Arctic Cooling MX-2 or Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound better?

3) I like the efficiency of the power supply Timop posted. Is 650W enough power for this build?

4) Timop, you recommended the Mushkin SSD as being the same as the Vertex 2, but cheaper. Some of the reviews for the Vertex 2 indicate OCZ has better firmware and better support. Do you think that's accurate?


I'd like to avoid RAID and water cooling (as I do overclocking) for simplicity. I'm going for a low-maintenance build (I'm lazy :)).

For the motherboard, I had considered the Asus P6X58D like Timop selected, but the reviews mentioning the bad RAM slot scared me. The price went up to $270 from $215, so I figure I might as well pay the extra $35 for the Big Bang-XPower to avoid a chance of a faulty RAM slot, even if I never use its advanced features. Does that sound like a good idea?

The CPU cooler listed below will fit in the case, right?

Here's the revised build (changed case, PSU, CPU cooler, RAM, DVD burner, OS; removed antivirus; added headset):

Case: Cooler Master CM-690 II $70
Power Supply: SeaSonic X650 Gold 650W $140
CPU: Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz $300
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Balder $45
Motherboard: MSI Big Bang-XPower LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX $305
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 $10
RAM: G-Skill Pi DDR3 1600 CAS7 12GB $337
Video Card: SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100281VX-2SR Radeon HD 5870 1GB $418
Boot Drive (SSD): OCZ Vertex 2 120GB SATA II $294
Data Drive: Caviar Black 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB cache SATA 3.0 Gb/s $180
DVD Burner: LG Burner $22
Media Reader: SABRENT CRW-UINB 68-in-1 $17
Monitor: Dell UltraSharp U2311H 23”W $299x3 = $897
Keyboard: Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 $42
Mouse: Logitech Performance Mouse MX $88
Speakers: Logitech Z-2300 200 watts RMS 2.1 $137
Headset: TekNmotion PulseWave V2 $57
Printer: HP Officejet Pro 8500 Premier CB025A $278
UPS: APC BR1300LCD $190
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM $100
Antivirus: None
Office: Microsoft Office Home & Student $122


Some of the prices increased and one dropped. Also, the SSD is now out of stock. How long does it usually take for Newegg to receive a new shipment?

It looks like the current total is $4032.80, including shipping, the monitors, and the SSD. That's where I wanted to be in price, so that looks pretty good. There's a $20 mail-in-rebate to boot.