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September 6, 2010 10:26:56 PM

I'm building a new computer for 1000.
I am building to play Starcraft 2.

Can a single GTX 460 run Starcraft 2?
What settings will i be able to play on?

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September 6, 2010 10:43:36 PM

tie23he said:
I'm building a new computer for 1000.
I am building to play Starcraft 2.

Can a single GTX 460 run Starcraft 2?
What settings will i be able to play on?


I'm pretty much doing the same thing. I've gone back and forth a lot in my options, but I did end up picking a 460 over the 5850 I was looking at. It is considerably cheaper, performs maybe slightly less, and you get great SLI performance if you add another later.

This is my build:

Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80605I5760
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2. ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard


Solid proc/mobo combo for this price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

SeaSonic X750 Gold 750W ATX12V V2.3/EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
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2. MSI N460GTX CYCLONE 1GD5/OC GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
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great combo deal - the seasonic and card both get great reviews

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
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2. LITE-ON 22X DVD Writer Black IDE Model iHAP422-98 LightScribe Support
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cheap and functional

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long life sleeve CPU Cooler

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This all subtotals at $1,011.92
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September 7, 2010 1:22:50 AM

You don't mention what resolution you will game at, so let me give you this example:

My i5 750 with and HD 5750 runs 35-50 FPS with all in-game settings set to Ultra, High, ON, or whatever the highest setting is. At 1920x1200 resolution.

The 460 is a faster video card, and will run better if you go 2x460s at some point than 2x5870:

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/08/09/geforce_gtx_460_1gb_sli_vs_radeon_hd_5870_cfx/

The 460 is plenty, and its the correct purchase, along with a mobo that will allow SLI, even at x16-x4.
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September 7, 2010 5:08:56 AM

Well 1st week of SC2 Nvidia ftw for peeps insisting on Ultra/AA but not after ATI updated drivers ^^
Starcraft 2 Multiplayer GPU Performance Analysis
http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/features/view/64848
Heck for $1k i do up HD 5870 based gaming configs and with HD 6k and the Nvidia riposte i wouldn't want to end up with not 1 but 2 obsolete GPUs if CF/SLI ing
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September 10, 2010 6:33:42 PM

batuchka said:
Well 1st week of SC2 Nvidia ftw for peeps insisting on Ultra/AA but not after ATI updated drivers ^^
Starcraft 2 Multiplayer GPU Performance Analysis
http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/features/view/64848
Heck for $1k i do up HD 5870 based gaming configs and with HD 6k and the Nvidia riposte i wouldn't want to end up with not 1 but 2 obsolete GPUs if CF/SLI ing


huh? I don't see how the benchmarks you posted really make that much of a difference, comparable nvidia cards are still outperforming the ATI cards and still show significantly better performance with quality setting in place (aa af). The review is somewhat flawed as it leaves out several key competing cards 5830, 5750, gt 240. If they did you could see that the cheaper GT 240 out performs the 5670 and the GTX 460 kills the 5830. You also have to consider that the GTX 460 is @ reference speeds in these charts, reviews show that it can easily overclock to 125% which would have it beating the more expensive 5850. Anything passed this card to me doesn't make sense as far as this game is concerned unless maybe you are playing at a the highest resolution (25xx). Paying $400 roughly 100% more, when compared to a GTX 460, for a 10% performance gain (ocd 460 vs 5870) doesn't make much rational sense.

Don't get me wrong i love ATI products have been 90% ATI from the start, but these are the facts with SC2.
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September 11, 2010 7:40:34 AM

Err u try to play Ultra Detail /AA Full HD with either GT 240 or HD 5670 and recommend peeps either of those and let them scream back at ya? Again multi player, Full HD + AA/Ultra is a totally different beast and i wouldn''t settle for just a GTX 460 for a $1k config @@
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October 7, 2010 7:26:00 PM

Everything I've read says "DO NOT USE LITEON DVD DRIVES FOR STARCRAFT II!" because apparently they cannot properly read the second layer during installation. I'm afraid I'm a victim of it myself because my LiteOn won't install it properly either. As for your vidcard, 2 x GTX 460 is about as big of a waste of money as anyone could possibly imagine. Stracraft 2 is a DX9 game and would run just fine on a single nVidia GeForce GTS 250 or ATi Radeon HD 4850. If you're looking for a setup that can run Starcraft 2 at maximum frame rates at all settings, I'd recommend 2 x Radeon HD 4870 1GB from newegg.com. They're currently on sale for $130 each and as if that weren't enough, both XFX and ASUS are offering a $30 mail-in rebate on the cards themselves. In addition to that, you'd be spending a helluva lot less money in most cases on a motherboard that supports crossfire as opposed to one that supports SLI, especially if you decide to take the smarter CPU route and go AMD. In that case, you can run up to 4 Radeons of any HD series (HD 2xxx, HD 3xxx, HD 4xxx, HD 5xxx and HD 6xxx) if you get a motherboard with an AMD 790FX or 890FX chipset. That's the ULTIMATE gaming platform IMO.

Why pay $1000 when you don't need to? :sol: 
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October 7, 2010 8:03:05 PM

when did he say he wanted 2 cards.....

anyways I have a Phenom II X4 965 with a 9800GTX+ 1gb GPU i run everything on High/Ultra at 1680x1050....

i used touse this card on my old PC which was a Pentium D 945 (orig dual core series) switching CPUs allowed me to go from lagging on low settings to running on High/Ultra

if u get a 4601gb ull be able to ultra with just 1 card same thing with a 5770 or 5850
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October 7, 2010 9:50:00 PM

@Avro Arrow: Whats wrong with Liteon DVD drives? I've installed Starcraft 2 on about 4 of them now o_O.

@tie23he: Starcraft 2 is more CPU dependent as are most RTS games. A single GTX 460 should be able to produce some very solid FPS with few dips during larger battles in regular play at 1920x1080 Ultra (No AA).

If this is the primary game you're building your system for, a GTS 250 or 5770 and higher would suffice. Just make sure you get a strong CPU and maybe overclock it a bit. I suggest a Nvidia card (no I am not a fanboy...I have 6 ATI to 2 Nvidia cards) because the game simply favors them (cool devs :sarcastic:  ).

@others: Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Starcraft 2 supports crossfire or SLI yet...I've played it with my 5850s and a friend's 460s. The game seemed to actually run better when we drop down from dual to single card configurations.

Edit: I hope we're talking about the 1GB GTX 460 :lol: 
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October 8, 2010 12:38:55 PM

@karma They actually patched SC2 and both Nvidia and ATI released new drivers....as of that point ATI cards actually run better.....part of the patches were to help with Xfire and SLI setups and to better optimize cards (mainly ATI)
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October 9, 2010 6:03:28 AM

jasonp12 said:
@karma They actually patched SC2 and both Nvidia and ATI released new drivers....as of that point ATI cards actually run better.....part of the patches were to help with Xfire and SLI setups and to better optimize cards (mainly ATI)


Oh...thats awesome. Are you talking about Patch 1.1.1? I haven't played for a few weeks so I don't actually have it yet. Really good news for AMD GPU owners :D  .
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October 9, 2010 6:11:05 AM

I put together a gaming build that is similiar for around 1.1k from TigerDirect. I went w/ the 470 instead of the 460
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