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September 7, 2010 1:15:21 AM

What cooler fits this build best?

Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHz 8M L3 Cache LGA1366 Desktop Processor
GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7T-6GBPI
x3 Acer S243HLbmii Black 24" 2ms(GTG) Full HD LED Backlight LCD monitor 250 cd/m2 DC 8,000,000:1 w/Speakers
GIGABYTE GV-R597D5-2GD-B Radeon HD 5970 (Hemlock) 2GB 512 (256 x 2)-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready
OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD2-2VTXE60G 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Scythe Gentle Typhoon 120mm Case Fan- 1,850rpm, 28dba, 58.3cfm
CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-1000HX 1000W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular
ASUS Black 22X DVD+R 12X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 12X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 40X CD-R 40X
x2 DVI to HDMI Cable SYBA 10 ft. DVI to HDMI Cable Model SY-DVIHDMI-MM10
Accell B087B-003J UltraAV miniDisplayPort/DVI-D Dual-Link Adapter
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x0 CORSAIR Hydro H70 CWCH70 120mm High Performance CPU Cooler

I ordered everything but forgot to put the cpu cooler in the cart - I'm not really sure about my original choice anyways...

The ramifications it may have on my other air cooling components and the cost don't seem to fit what I have in mind.

I like the idea of the Noctua nh-d14 - but with my memory choice - there may be an impact on whether it will fit properly... if the memory can be offset on the motherboard in terms of layout it should be okay, but will affect upgrades.

Hyper 212 Plus - seems to be a popular choice among many..............

Corsair H70 - should I stick with my original choice? since I need to order still, I'm free to change my mind..

are there other options? perhaps a different Noctua product... the compatability lists warn against possible issues with ram using heat spreaders but I don't see a distinct list as the D-14.

Anybody have this combo of Mobo, Ram, Cooler? Thanks!

GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7T-6GBPI http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231335
September 7, 2010 1:19:26 AM

I guess another option is to return the RAM and opt for the Noctua NH-D14with RAM that IS on the compatibility list...
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September 7, 2010 1:20:57 AM

The Noctua and Scythe Mugen will not work with Heat Spreaders RAM. Both block 2 RAM slots.
A Megahalem will work, if you don't plan on using all 6 slots for RAM (it blocks 1 slot).

A Hyper 212 Plus won't block any, but doesn't cool as well as the above (it's sufficient for most 4.0ghz OC's though).

H70 is more meh. To make cheap water cool as well as/as quiet as big air you'll need 2 120mm Rads, which isn't standard so you'll have to do some modding and spend some more money to get it to work right.

Better off with big air really.
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September 7, 2010 1:43:43 AM

thats what I was afraid someone would say.. just wanted somebody to confirm my thoughts...

okay dang, i really liked that RAM to - now I'll have to find a different set, but I should be able to find a set on the compatiblity list.

G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7T-6GBPI

Equivilent RAM as above that doesn't have heat spreaders...
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September 7, 2010 2:12:34 PM

Papadrom said:
thats what I was afraid someone would say.. just wanted somebody to confirm my thoughts...

okay dang, i really liked that RAM to - now I'll have to find a different set, but I should be able to find a set on the compatiblity list.

G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7T-6GBPI

Equivilent RAM as above that doesn't have heat spreaders...

Here's what your looking at.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...
The Corsair XMS kit has heatspreaders but is only Standard height 33mm perfect and will fit under most coolers even when all dimms are utilized.
Muskins are 40mm tall and still compatable with alot of cooler installs.
Cooler wise a 212+ won't cut it if you're going for a decent o'c on a 9xx series cpu.
The Noctua is nice but for less you can source a Thermalright Silver Arrow if you want the ultimate.
Thermalright Silver Arrow Dual 160mm x 140mm Fan Universal
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11676/cpu-tri-77/Ther...
Passive cooler Thermalright HR-02 CPU Cooler or add fan
http://www.crazypc.com/products/thermalright-hr-02-5098...

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/therma...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/therma...

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September 7, 2010 9:34:36 PM

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September 7, 2010 10:09:29 PM

davcon said:
Here's what your looking at.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...
The Corsair XMS kit has heatspreaders but is only Standard height 33mm perfect and will fit under most coolers even when all dimms are utilized.
Muskins are 40mm tall and still compatable with alot of cooler installs.
Cooler wise a 212+ won't cut it if you're going for a decent o'c on a 9xx series cpu.
The Noctua is nice but for less you can source a Thermalright Silver Arrow if you want the ultimate.
Thermalright Silver Arrow Dual 160mm x 140mm Fan Universal
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11676/cpu-tri-77/Ther...
Passive cooler Thermalright HR-02 CPU Cooler or add fan
http://www.crazypc.com/products/thermalright-hr-02-5098...

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/therma...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/therma...



wow you gave me all the information in one easy to read place! I am very impressed! You helped me immensely. One follow up question since nowhere did it say on the reviews on the product site.

Will the silver arrow have any issues in terms of memory interaction - like the noctua did? Will the original RAM that I purchased be sufficient?

Thanks again for your reply!
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September 8, 2010 3:24:40 AM

Papadrom said:
wow you gave me all the information in one easy to read place! I am very impressed! You helped me immensely. One follow up question since nowhere did it say on the reviews on the product site.

Will the silver arrow have any issues in terms of memory interaction - like the noctua did? Will the original RAM that I purchased be sufficient?

Thanks again for your reply!

Unfortunately the Pi ram is going to give you clearance issues it's 54mm tall no matter what air cooler you choose.
My suggestion is to get the Corsair XMS kit i linked it will work with those even if all the dimms were filled.
If you are keeping the Pi's you'll have to step down from the behemoth coolers to a TR Venomous-X or Prolimatech Megahalems or Armageddon.
The aforementioned coolers are 1-2C off a D14 performance wise and alot smaller.
The Silver Arrow is actually smaller then the D14 .
Here's a ramm/dimm guide.
http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_page/product_page/cpu...
Another good review on the Silver Arrow with great pics.
http://www.vortez.co.uk/contentteller/articles_pages/th...

I hope you find something that will work for you!
I know it's easy to get excited about a new build and overlook how your ram choice might affect your cooler options.
Happens all the time on this forum.
Good luck!:) 
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September 8, 2010 4:01:41 AM

I was reading the manual to the motherboard since it came today - and it says the DIMMs are for 1.5v RAM. I think the range for RAM voltage is 1.5v to 1.65v yes? even if the manual says nothing about 1.65v RAM?

Does the lower voltage or higher voltage impact overclocking capability or simply just stress on the CPU? and perhaps overall lifetime?

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My goal was to setup the 5790 in an HDMI DP HDMI setup with 3 screens... the manual for the graphics card says that the dongle only supports DVI to HDMI on port2 and not port1. I think this has to do with the audio output capabilities only that the card supports. Its not clear in the manual and I couldn't find anything clear online.

I'm assuming I can convert the DVI to HDMI provided I supply a cable for the other port (my monitors do not support DVI. only HDMI ports.)

Thanks for discussion my options with me. (before we talked I had ordered Muskins redline not even seeing the blackline (I was searching on newegg for memory with similiar timings or better.) They are probably slightly overkill but will fit in both cooler configurations. They are 1.65v - I could still get the cheaper ones - I'm just trying to be proactive.
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September 8, 2010 4:39:55 AM

Papadrom said:
I was reading the manual to the motherboard since it came today - and it says the DIMMs are for 1.5v RAM. I think the range for RAM voltage is 1.5v to 1.65v yes? even if the manual says nothing about 1.65v RAM?

Does the lower voltage or higher voltage impact overclocking capability or simply just stress on the CPU? and perhaps overall lifetime?

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My goal was to setup the 5790 in an HDMI DP HDMI setup with 3 screens... the manual for the graphics card says that the dongle only supports DVI to HDMI on port2 and not port1. I think this has to do with the audio output capabilities only that the card supports. Its not clear in the manual and I couldn't find anything clear online.

I'm assuming I can convert the DVI to HDMI provided I supply a cable for the other port (my monitors do not support DVI. only HDMI ports.)

Thanks for discussion my options with me. (before we talked I had ordered Muskins redline not even seeing the blackline (I was searching on newegg for memory with similiar timings or better.) They are probably slightly overkill but will fit in both cooler configurations. They are 1.65v - I could still get the cheaper ones - I'm just trying to be proactive.


So you went for the CL6's that cost $189 i was going to link those earlier i thought maybe they were too much $.
Nice ram 40mm tall that shouldn't interfere too much with coolers.
I got lucky with my 1156 build 52mm tall Dominators and a Thermalright MUX-120 all the dimms are filled and it fit.
Second build has 41mm Ripjaws and a CM Hyper 212+ another fit.
1.5v is mobo default for post your ram or any for that matter will run at 1333Mhz until you configure it to vendors specs.
When you set-up the ram all you have to do in your bios is enable XMP and adjust the dram voltage to 1.66 or something Gigabyte doesn't have a 1.65v setting in bios.
It's fine and your ram will run at advertised speeds and it won't damage anything.
Eyefinity is going to require that one of the monitors has a display port connection.
You need a displayport adapter .
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
The DP end connects to your gpu.
I circumvented the whole process by buying a Display Port monitor in January.
Made me laugh when i read the reviews from people "what no hdmi who needs Display port" !
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September 8, 2010 10:50:26 AM

davcon said:
So you went for the CL6's that cost $189 i was going to link those earlier i thought maybe they were too much $.
Nice ram 40mm tall that shouldn't interfere too much with coolers.
I got lucky with my 1156 build 52mm tall Dominators and a Thermalright MUX-120 all the dimms are filled and it fit.
Second build has 41mm Ripjaws and a CM Hyper 212+ another fit.
1.5v is mobo default for post your ram or any for that matter will run at 1333Mhz until you configure it to vendors specs.
When you set-up the ram all you have to do in your bios is enable XMP and adjust the dram voltage to 1.66 or something Gigabyte doesn't have a 1.65v setting in bios.
It's fine and your ram will run at advertised speeds and it won't damage anything.
Eyefinity is going to require that one of the monitors has a display port connection.
You need a displayport adapter .
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
The DP end connects to your gpu.
I circumvented the whole process by buying a Display Port monitor in January.
Made me laugh when i read the reviews from people "what no hdmi who needs Display port" !


I did pick up a DP adapter - it was just the odd note in the manual saying that only port two supports the DVI to HDMI adapter that comes with the card. I think thats the only slot that could use audio... I guess I'll find out :) 

at this point with all invested the 30$ on the RAM is kind of small if needed to be justifed... I can still change my mind - but I think once its here , I'll have a hard time waiting to put the whole machine together :) 

Thanks for taking the time to help me out.
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