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November 29, 2010 7:12:17 PM

Hello, is there an AMD processor comparable to the Intel Core i3-530 2.93GHz LGA1156 processor

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November 29, 2010 8:50:34 PM

yeah , I think the Athlon x3 450 is more than a match for the i3at less than half the price
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November 29, 2010 8:55:05 PM

Processor PassMark CPU Mark Score / Price Price (USD)
AMD Phenom II X3 740 45.67 $68.99*
AMD Phenom 9850 Quad-Core 42.33 $69.99*
AMD Phenom II X4 940 38.27 $95.99*
AMD Athlon II X3 425 37.88 $60.99*
AMD Athlon 7850 Dual-Core 37.45 $42.99*
AMD Athlon II X4 630 36.48 $88.99*
AMD Athlon II X3 445 36.4 $73.99*
AMD Phenom II X3 715 35.07 $79.99*
AMD Athlon II X4 640 34.32 $99.99*
AMD Athlon II X2 240 32.44 $48.99*
AMD Athlon II X3 450 32.3 $78.99*
Intel Celeron E3300 @ 2.50GHz 32.1 $51.99*
AMD Phenom 9450e Quad-Core 31.69 $85.00*
AMD Athlon 7750 Dual-Core 31.39 $49.99*
Pentium Dual-Core E5700 @ 3.00GHz 30.33 $73.79*
AMD Athlon II X2 265 30.17 $72.99*
Intel Celeron E3400 @ 2.60GHz 29.38 $53.99*
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 28.93 $179.00*
AMD Athlon II X2 250 28.85 $58.99*
AMD Athlon II X2 255 28.8 $62.99*
AMD Athlon II X2 245 28.47 $57.99*
AMD Phenom II X6 1075T 28.39 $199.99*
AMD Athlon II X2 260 28.36 $67.99*
Intel Core i3 550 @ 3.20GHz 27.68 $109.99*
AMD Athlon II X4 645 27.35 $117.99*
AMD Phenom II X4 955 27.19 $144.99*
Intel Core i3 530 @ 2.93GHz 27.09 $99.99*
Intel Core i3 540 @ 3.07GHz 26.78 $104.99*
AMD Phenom II X2 545 26.73 $65.99*
AMD Phenom II X4 810 26.67 $115.99*
AMD Phenom II X4 965 26.66 $159.99*
Pentium Dual-Core E6600 @ 3.06GHz 26.65 $82.99*
AMD Phenom II X4 945 26.47 $135.99*
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 26.46 $229.00*
AMD Phenom II X4 925 26.28 $129.99*
Pentium Dual-Core E5400 @ 2.70GHz 25.98 $69.41*
Pentium Dual-Core E6500 @ 2.93GHz 25.9 $78.04*
AMD Phenom II X4 970 25 $179.99*
AMD Sempron 145 24.76 $36.99*
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4800+ 23.93 $55.00*
Intel Core2 Quad Q8300 @ 2.50GHz 23.77 $149.99*
AMD Athlon II X2 240e 23.66 $69.61*
AMD Sempron 140 23.52 $32.99*
AMD Athlon 7550 Dual-Core 23.32 $60.00*
Pentium Dual-Core E6300 @ 2.80GHz 22.87 $85.00*
Pentium Dual-Core E5300 @ 2.60GHz 22.83 $76.21*
Intel Core i5 760 @ 2.80GHz 22.81 $199.99*
Intel Core i7 950 @ 3.07GHz 22.58 $279.99*
Intel Core i3 560 @ 3.33GHz 22.53 $144.99*
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4400+ 22.47 $53.00*
Copyright PassMark Software 2010
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November 29, 2010 9:11:40 PM

I have to ask.... why do you want an AMD chip instead of the much newer and efficient i3's ?

Now if its simply because you have an AMD system alreayd then fine, no problem but if you are asking the question with a new build in mind.... then its a no brainer to choose Intel right now.
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November 30, 2010 2:35:35 AM

ulysses35 said:
I have to ask.... why do you want an AMD chip instead of the much newer and efficient i3's ?

Now if its simply because you have an AMD system alreayd then fine, no problem but if you are asking the question with a new build in mind.... then its a no brainer to choose Intel right now.

simply price to performance sure I would love a new i7 but price dictates when you get down to it amd is is the better build, I could get a nice motherboard and cpu for the price of a Intel chip. also for what pete3867 I agree Athlon x3 450 would be comparable.
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November 30, 2010 8:11:46 AM


Funny how the Phenom II X4 955 isn't listed there...lol
ulysses35 said:
I have to ask.... why do you want an AMD chip instead of the much newer and efficient i3's ?
Now if its simply because you have an AMD system alreayd then fine, no problem but if you are asking the question with a new build in mind.... then its a no brainer to choose Intel right now.

The hell it is, Intel has already announced that the LGA 1156 socket is dead and he'll have to buy a new motherboard to upgrade past the 1156.
sideshowbob32 said:
simply price to performance sure I would love a new i7 but price dictates when you get down to it amd is is the better build, I could get a nice motherboard and cpu for the price of a Intel chip. also for what pete3867 I agree Athlon x3 450 would be comparable.

The Athlon II X3 450 is the best choice. In the words of tomshardware:
"This is the fastest triple-core Athlon II available, and it sports an ideal combination of three execution cores, a high clock rate, a low price, and respectable overclocking headroom. Despite the deceptively low buy-in, this processor delivers some serious gaming capability. It is such a great gaming CPU, in fact, that it almost renders most of the CPUs in the $100 to $130 range overkill. "
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-cpu-cor...
That really says it all doesn't it? :sol: 
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November 30, 2010 9:04:03 AM

yeah I have a 440 , and it overclocks to 3.5ghz without breaking a sweat .. BUT the 450 is a newer core and at stock speed it beats my overclocked 440 ...so yes its a winner
as far as I can see an i3 is just like a dual core ... an Athlon 250 or something like that
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November 30, 2010 9:18:00 AM

I was fortunate myself to get a Phenom X3 740 BE on sale (for only a couple of days)
at $68.99.It's better than the Athlon II X3 450 however it was sold out (quickly) and now is $20 more.I would agree that the AM3 Athlon II X3 450 is a great choice.Also so is the AM2+ Phenom II X4 940 BE if you have an older AM2+ board
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November 30, 2010 10:25:47 AM

^ good point , the 940 is pretty cheap now
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November 30, 2010 10:32:31 AM

sideshowbob32 said:
I could get a nice motherboard and cpu for the price of a Intel chip.


The "AMD mobos are sooooooooooo cheap" is an urban myth. Something like an ASRock H55M-LE LGA 1156 mobo is at most $20 more expensive than the cheapest possible AM3 board. Where I live $20 will get you a burger and fries.
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November 30, 2010 10:46:57 AM

halfcalf said:
The "AMD mobos are sooooooooooo cheap" is an urban myth. Something like an ASRock H55M-LE LGA 1156 mobo is at most $20 more expensive than the cheapest possible AM3 board. Where I live $20 will get you a burger and fries.



Where I live $5 will get you a burger and fries.
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November 30, 2010 10:53:24 AM

I'm talking about an edible one, not a plastic one from McD. :) 
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November 30, 2010 11:13:21 AM

Ratburgers are cheap, mmmmmmmmm.

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November 30, 2010 11:16:18 AM

halfcalf said:
I'm talking about an edible one, not a plastic one from McD. :) 

If I went to a local McD I could get 3 burgers and fries for $5
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November 30, 2010 11:37:12 AM

jj463rd said:
If I went to a local McD I could get 3 burgers and fries for $5


Your description of food is a bit different than mine, my friend. Beanoslim certainly has an excellent grasp of the essence of MickyDee burgers. :pt1cable: 
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November 30, 2010 11:50:53 AM

halfcalf said:
Your description of food is a bit different than mine, my friend. Beanoslim certainly has an excellent grasp of the essence of MickyDee burgers. :pt1cable: 

Uh I think that you are mistaken I don't eat at McD's,rather the case is that food prices are much less in my area rather than yours.
Prices do vary quite a bit depending upon location.
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November 30, 2010 11:58:44 AM

I fully agree, as I live in a place where a midrange 2 bed condo starts at $650,000 and if you want a view, you'd better pull out seven figures. There's a crappy 90 year old 3 bed house that's a real fixerupper not far from here on a small lot which has a bit of a water view, and it's a super affordable $3.7 million. Still, anyplace where you can eat 3 burgers and fries for $5 has to be a place that only your enterologist can love!
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November 30, 2010 12:20:09 PM

$650,000 that's the value of the pot they grow in my neighbourhood a day. I can see by the neighboUrhood you're in Canuckia as well. :) 
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November 30, 2010 12:44:22 PM

We don't have illegal drugs where I live.However a 2 bed condo here starts at about $175,000 and 3 bedroom homes and a lot at around that price too.However in a city about 40 miles north of me the prices are 4 times that.
In my mothers town nearby, condos are not tolerated at all just private homes on large lots of land.
From what I was told down in the state of Alabama (which is about 3,000 miles away)3 bed homes are priced at around $40,000.Apparently prices are much lower in that state than mine.
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November 30, 2010 12:59:18 PM

Dang, I'd move to Alabama in about a minute flat if it weren't for your rather uncooperative Immigration officers. :)  I have a friend who paid more than that for a parking space last year. Houses in Detroit are $10K but I'd much rather live in Alabama, thank you. I hate snow!
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November 30, 2010 1:41:31 PM

halfcalf said:
The "AMD mobos are sooooooooooo cheap" is an urban myth. Something like an ASRock H55M-LE LGA 1156 mobo is at most $20 more expensive than the cheapest possible AM3 board. Where I live $20 will get you a burger and fries.


If we look on newegg for AMD3/1156 dual core chips in the 3.0Ghz range then the Intel is $45.00 more expensive than the AMD chip. The $45.00 can buy you the AMD motherboard. PLUS you would still have enough left over to get a burger and fries.

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November 30, 2010 1:49:23 PM

keithlm said:
If we look on newegg for AMD3/1156 dual core chips in the 3.0Ghz range then the Intel is $45.00 more expensive than the AMD chip. The $45.00 can buy you the AMD motherboard. PLUS you would still have enough left over to get a burger and fries.


Intel Core i3-540 Clarkdale 3.06GHz LGA 1156 73W Dual-Core Desktop Processor BX80616I3540 $104.99

AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor ADX250OCGMBOX $58.99

And I'm sure that they perform the same, right? You pay more for a Corvette than you do for a Chevette, dude! Or given the recent subjects of this thread, you pay more for filet mignon than for McD hamburger! :lol: 
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November 30, 2010 2:39:20 PM

Please answer this question:

Can you buy the AMD and motherboard for less than the price of the Intel CPU.

No urban myth needed.
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November 30, 2010 2:53:06 PM

Can you buy a Chevy Aveo for less than a Cadillac Escalade? Don't be dense, dude! :) 
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November 30, 2010 2:58:55 PM

You can buy 4 Ratburgers for the cost of 1 Bigmac. :lol:  :lol: 
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November 30, 2010 3:03:37 PM

yum ratburgers and I dislike Cadillac Escalades
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November 30, 2010 3:03:44 PM

At least the Ratburgers have actual mammal meat content! :) 
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November 30, 2010 3:05:57 PM

halfcalf said:
Can you buy a Chevy Aveo for less than a Cadillac Escalade? Don't be dense, dude! :) 

It all depends...what am I looking for? If I am looking for a computer that is appropriate for the task, then I will buy accordingly. For instance, if I am looking for a commuter vehicle that I plan on racking up high mileage getting from point A to point B, why would I buy an expensive Cadillac when i can get an inexpensive Chevy that will also cost less to repair?

Sure, when all you are interested in is impressing the neighbors or the kiddies down the street when they see your ride, shell out the big buck. I'm a bit more practical than that.

By the way, this applies to computers as well. Look at the numbers. I have yet to see a situation where modern AMD processors refused to run code because they weren't Intel. If I can buy a box that does the same job within slivers of a percentage for about 2/3 the price, then which one do you think I will choose?
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November 30, 2010 3:11:27 PM

Houndsteeth said:
It all depends...what am I looking for? If I am looking for a computer that is appropriate for the task, then I will buy accordingly. For instance, if I am looking for a commuter vehicle that I plan on racking up high mileage getting from point A to point B, why would I buy an expensive Cadillac when i can get an inexpensive Chevy that will also cost less to repair?

Sure, when all you are interested in is impressing the neighbors or the kiddies down the street when they see your ride, shell out the big buck. I'm a bit more practical than that.

By the way, this applies to computers as well. Look at the numbers. I have yet to see a situation where modern AMD processors refused to run code because they weren't Intel. If I can buy a box that does the same job within slivers of a percentage for about 2/3 the price, then which one do you think I will choose?

Thank you for saying what I want to say but don't have them mental capacity at the moment to say if that makes any sense to many ratburgers. Your right why pay 30-40% more for some thing that will only perform slightly better and is going to be out dated in a year or 2.
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November 30, 2010 3:13:43 PM

halfcalf said:
Can you buy a Chevy Aveo for less than a Cadillac Escalade? Don't be dense, dude! :) 



You responded with nonsense to another poster and when somebody points out that your reply was not based in reality you go off the deep end and start calling people names when you realize that your attempt to reduce the argument to the mundane failed.

I should also point out that intelligent people living in reality don't compare the performance of a Chevy Aveo to a Cadillac Escalade. BUT based on what you seem to be arguing nobody would every consider the Chevy Aveo worth buying. So they should stop making it.
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November 30, 2010 3:17:33 PM

What the hell is going on. :pt1cable: 

Pass the sauce.. :lol: 
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November 30, 2010 3:24:01 PM

Yum, now who started this and what is the question again??
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November 30, 2010 3:24:29 PM

Dear Sir Keithlm.

I profoundly apologize for calling you dense.

It was stated in jest thus the smiley after it.

Please accept my apology.

Now that's out of the way:

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

Intel Core i3 540 @ 3.07GHz: Passmark CPU 2814, Rank 161

AMD Athlon II X2 250: Passmark CPU 1702, Rank 296

Dearest most honored most honorable most respect most awesome sir, I beg thy noble and courteous mercy in considering that comparing these two CPUs as equivalent is in the gravest error. They are nowhere near equally performing. Allow me to amend my previous metaphor, oh gracious and merciful sire:

The base model modern Dodge Challenger is powered by a 3.5 L (214 cu in) SOHC V6

The SRT8 Challenger is powered by a 6.1 L (372 cu in) Hemi V8

But hey, they both look about the same and have the same number of wheels and tires and headlights and taillights so they're the same and should cost the same and thus be considered equivalent. Even though the SRT8 will smoke and spank the base model at the strip or at top end.

Yea, though I walk through the valley in the shadow of Tom, I shall fear no density. :) 
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November 30, 2010 3:52:41 PM

YES! Confirmed! Let's all go out and buy:

Regular ground beef for the price of Wagyu filet

Surimi for the price of Alaskan King Crab Legs

Button mushrooms for the price of White Truffles

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooo :) 
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November 30, 2010 4:01:45 PM

No Intel bias here. Factz iz Factz. Benchmarkies don't lie. Ask me if "all other things being equal including price" I'd rather have a

AMD Phenom II X6 1090T : Passmark CPU 6058, Rank 27

or a

Intel Core i3 540 @ 3.07GHz: Passmark CPU 2814, Rank 161

and I'd take the AMD in a heartbeat. :) 
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November 30, 2010 4:12:04 PM

I'm comparing it to the i3 since that was the original comparison we've been dealing with. Compare these two for apples to apples:

AMD Athlon II X4 610e - 2721 - 167
Intel Core i3 530 @ 2.93GHz - 2709- 168
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November 30, 2010 4:17:13 PM

AMD Athlon II X2 250 score 28.85 $58.99*
AMD Athlon II X2 255 score 28.8 $62.99*
Intel Core i3 530 @ 2.93GHz score 27.09 $99.99*
Intel Core i3 540 @ 3.07GHz score 26.78 $104.99*
these are the 2010 passmark results ...erm it looks to me as if the $58 dollar Athlon beats the $104 i3 :o 
course you could spend a bit more for the x3 Athlon and absolutely TROUNCE the Intel
or you could just get a couple of rat burgers
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November 30, 2010 4:18:42 PM

No one here (I doubt) questions that Intel's CPU's have superior performance than AMD's ever since around 2006.However AMD has priced their CPU's competitively.
Even AMD's fastest dual the Phenom II X2 560 doesn't match the i3-530 (the one mentioned by the OP) as seen here.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/118?vs=187

One however should take into account that the i3 can be overclocked at a much higher speed than the Phenom.However again it's possible for a user to unlocked the 2 disabled cores on that Phenom II X2 560 and turn it into a quad core model (no guarantees on this though about a 40% chance on success).

Anandtech's benches are in contrast to that Passmark site which has the Athlon X3 450 with a higher benchmark score than the i3-530 plus the 450 is at a much lower price as well.Odd too because Anandtech showing the i3-530 outperforming the X3 450 in his benchmarks.The Passmark site has the Phenom X3 740 being only a little better than the Athlon X3 450 and the Athlon X3 450 being very much higher than the old phased out Phenom X3 720 yet the 720 trades blows with the 450 in Anandtech's benchmarks.The Phenom X3 740 is faster than the old phased out 720 but not shown in Anandtech's benchmark beta.It might
match the i3-530 at stock speeds.
Here is a benchmark at Anandtech of the older AM2+ Phenom II X4 940 BE CPU against the i3-530
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/80?vs=118

As to the OP's question is there a comparable CPU well not exactly.
In price yes one could find a similar performing CPU for less.
However it would have to have more cores for an AMD model.
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November 30, 2010 4:48:15 PM

pete3867: Respectfully, with the maximum humility, with the greatest possible awe for your grandeur (I learned you gotta be careful around here when you dispute someone's BS :kaola:  ) you're looking at price/performance grid and using it as an absolute. That is a profound error. Use

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

As it's the absolute scale and you'll see that it's not even close. :non: 

greghome: When I was a teenager I had a Big Mac eating contest with a huge linebacker sort of guy. He ate 12 and I bested him by one. I was puking for three days straight after that! :cry: 
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November 30, 2010 4:52:08 PM

halfcalf lol ...ok ...I may have got that one a little erm wrong ... but then again , I think that was the jist of the original question was it not?....i.e how much performance can I get for so many bucks?
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November 30, 2010 5:07:31 PM

I'm definitely white as you can see by my avatar and I have horns. Otherwise, me and that dude could be twins! :) 
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November 30, 2010 6:38:31 PM

halfcalf said:

Yea, though I walk through the valley in the shadow of Tom, I shall fear no density. :) 


Attempting to advocate comparing the performance of a $60.00 part to a $105.00 part and then claiming a "victory" for the more expensive part would definitely fall under the definition of the word "dense". (So it is good to see that you are defending this forum against... yourself.)

Another definition of dense would be looking at a few anomalous benchmarks that don't reflect the average performance differences between two chips and then only quoting those results in many failed attempts to argue your opinion. (Not yet done in this thread, but somebody on this forum often uses that tactic.)
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November 30, 2010 10:36:23 PM

you guys really lost track of what you were talking about lol

+1 to the photo :D 
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December 2, 2010 1:18:47 AM

jj463rd said:
I was fortunate myself to get a Phenom X3 740 BE on sale (for only a couple of days)
at $68.99.It's better than the Athlon II X3 450 however it was sold out (quickly) and now is $20 more.I would agree that the AM3 Athlon II X3 450 is a great choice.Also so is the AM2+ Phenom II X4 940 BE if you have an older AM2+ board

I have a 940 and it's awesome! It's every bit as fast as the AM3 Phenom II X4's!
pete3867 said:
^ good point , the 940 is pretty cheap now

Yeah, there's really no better value out there ATM.
halfcalf said:
The "AMD mobos are sooooooooooo cheap" is an urban myth. Something like an ASRock H55M-LE LGA 1156 mobo is at most $20 more expensive than the cheapest possible AM3 board. Where I live $20 will get you a burger and fries.

Actually, it's $21 so what do you mean "at most"? Incidentally, I'm glad you chose ASRock because that's one of the brands I like. Here's another ASRock for you to compare:
ASRock H55M-LE LGA 1156 Intel-based (so-called great value):
PCI-Express v2.0 slots: 1
DDR3 RAM Slots: 2
Price - $65USD
ASRock M3A770DE AM3 AMD-based:
PCI-Express v2.0 slots: 2
DDR# RAM Slots: 4
Price: $60USD
Screw the burger and fries, I want the extra PCI-Express and RAM slots! :sol: 
halfcalf said:
Dear Sir Keithlm.
I profoundly apologize for calling you dense.
It was stated in jest thus the smiley after it.
Please accept my apology.
Now that that's out of the way:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
Intel Core i3 540 @ 3.07GHz: Passmark CPU 2814, Rank 161
AMD Athlon II X2 250: Passmark CPU 1702, Rank 296

Oh yeah, Passmark... well then, this should make you interested:
Intel i7-930 - Passmark Score: 5830, cost: $300CAD ($309 if you don't pay cash)
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T - Passmark Score: 6057, cost: $236.29CAD
Either Passmark is grossly mistaken or the Intel is badly overpriced, either way it looks bad for Intel or you, the Intel shill.
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the Phenom II x6 is not really price next to the i3............Funny you would compare it to the i3..........................
Phenom II x4 940 is more on par price and performance to the i3, but price is cheaper though

What crack are you on? I own a Phenom II X4 940 and it's more on par with the Core2Quad Q9400. It is not on par with some Intel non-hyperthreaded DUAL-CORE. Jeez, where do you noobs come from? :sol: 
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