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September 7, 2010 8:15:42 AM

Hi everyone,

I have been meaning to get a new computer for sometime now, but until now I haven’t really had to because my laptop was still working (until yesterday). I sort of have an idea what to get however since I live in Australia the prices are much higher and the range is smaller. So I just wanted to check here to see if my first home build was ok and that I wasn’t wasting my money in unnecessary places.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Within the next three weeks

Budget: AU$1400 (Can go more if needed, but would like to keep it under AU$1500 if possible)

System Usage: Gaming, Word Processing (Just university stuff), and movies

Preferred Website(s) for parts: http://umart.com.au/newindex2.phtml?bid=2 and http://msy.com.au/ (If prices are cheaper there).

Parts Not Required: Speakers, as I already have Logitech 5.1 Surround sound speakers.

Parts Preferences: Coolmaster, Asus, Corsair. However, happy to use other parts if there suggested

Overclocking: Maybe SLI or CrossFire: Eventually


Here is the list of Products I have been looking at:


Intel Core i5 760 Processor LGA1156 2.80GHz 8MB Cache CPU
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

Sapphire ATI HD5770 Vapor-X OC Ed 1G GDDR5 PCI-E
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

Asus P7P55D-E-Pro 4DDR3 FSB2133(OC)RAID GBLAN PCIEx16 SATA3 USB3.0 ATX
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

http://www.msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf

(however, msy offers that same board for about $20 less so not sure where ill get it from as of yet)

Western Digital 500G SATAII 7200 rpm HDD(16Mb Cache)
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

Sony AD7240SGB 22X SATA OEM DVD RW Black
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

CoolerMaster SGC-6000-KXN1 Storm Sniper Black Ed
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

Corsair HX-650 ATX Power Supply, 120mm fan
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

G Skill 4G(2x2G) DDR3 1600Mhz PC12800 9-9-9-24(CL9D-4GBNQ
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

Asus VH242H 23.6inch Wide 5ms 1920 x 1080P HD DVI Speakers
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...


Not sure about keyboard and mouse, I was probably just going to get like a Microsoft wireless keyboard and mouse pack or something, but if there are any suggestions of a good quality one for a good price then ill look at it.

Questions:

Is that motherboard needed?
Because I was looking at OCing later on and I will probably Crossfire GPU’s later on aswell

Will I need more cooling?
Lastly, im not sure if the power supply is enough if I intend to Crossfire another ATI card later on. Should I get a bigger one or is that enough?

Quickly also, should I get a sound card or not worry about?

Basically, I want to be able to down the track to upgrade the computer without having to gut the whole thing, so im looking for things that will last a couple of years at least.
If you have enough time and are feeling generous, you can come up with something better here http://umart.com.au/newindex2.phtml?bid=2

Thanks,

Will edit the post if need.

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September 7, 2010 8:57:00 AM

^ Overall your build looks pretty good...

But why not the GTX 460? IMO you have the mobo that supports SLI and also that PSU can handle 2x GTX 460s too...
They scale very well and give as good or better performance than HD 5850 Crossfire...
If you want a more powerful PSU, then these would be good...are not much costlier than the HX 650...
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

CASE - Why not the HAF 922 ?
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...
Or Lian-Li K62 if you want blue LEDs
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

HDD - A faster one - Samsung F3 500GB
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

RAM - A good option -
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...
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September 7, 2010 9:37:19 AM

Thanks for that, with the GTX 460 is this a good supplier:

eVGA GF GTX460 1G DDR5 EE SC (SuperClocked, External Exhaust) Edition http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

Im just not familiar with the brand. Is it as good as ASUS or better? Sorry if that is a stupid question im just not familiar with the brand thats all.

But reading about the GTX460 more its benchmarks look very promising

In Regards to the PSU i did look at the Antec ATX 750W, is looks great and is cheaper than than the Corsair HX-750 ATX. Just one last question is the ANTEC just as good as the Corsair HX 750 or would it be better just too stick with the ANTEC one you recommended?

Thanks once again for the reply
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September 7, 2010 10:08:26 AM

GTX460 definately worth getting instead of the 5770. 750W is nice if you are planning on OCing everything - leaves plenty of room for upgrades too.
Antec does good quality PSUs so they can be a good buy if a decent price. Corsair are my choice if ignoring cost, but if Antec are a notably better deal I am very happy to go with them personally.

If it is cheaper you may want to look at the MSI P55 GD65 motherboard, though the Asus one picked is the best especially if you wish to Overclock yourself, if you don't though, the MSI OC Genie is a great easy OC
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September 7, 2010 3:09:26 PM

Your build looks fine just as it is.

For gaming, though, see if you can stretch a bit on a stronger graphics card. At 1080P resolution, the graphics card is more important than the cpu. As others have suggested, the GTX460 is a good step up. Get the 1gb version if you can. The GTX460 scales particularly well in SLI, if you ever need such an upgrade. I doubt you will, unless you get a second monitor or go to a 30" 2560 x 1600 monitor. In the US, EVGA is one of the best manufacturers. With the 1gb version, you get a lifetime warranty.

I think the motherboard is appropriate. I like the inclusion of usb3.0 and 6gb sata. USB 3.0 is going to be great for external backups. When gen3 SSD's arrive, the 6gb sata may well become important. It is out of stock now, but a similar board from ASUS, Gigabyte or EVGA would be fine. All will overclock to reasonable levels safely. If you pick a different motherboard, check that it supports SLI if you use a nvidia graphics card. Some motherboards with two pci-e slots only support crossfire which applies to ati cards. SLI requires a small license fee to enable it, and some boards will omit that to reduce costs.

All motherboards have very good HD integrated sound. No added card is necessary. You will always have the option to add one later, but sound cards can have finicky drivers that can cause problems. The sound decoding cpu savings are negligible with today's cpu's.

Cases are a personal thing, and I like the looks of the storm sniper. If you want to save a bit, and go for function over looks, then I suggest the Antec 300 case at less than half the price: http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

The HX650 is an excellent unit that will power anything you are contemplating. Corsair, Antec XFX, Seasonic, PC P&C all make excellent quality psu's, and you can safely buy any one of them that has 4 pci-e 6 pin power connectors.

I would install an oem cooler up front, particularly if you contemplate a bit of overclocking.(and it is so easy that you should) It is much easier to install one at initial build time compared to taking things apart and installing one later. Your processor will run cooler and quieter. I like the tall tower type coolers with slow turning 120mm fans like the Xigmatek dark night: http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id... Actually, anything similar will do, and is much better than the stock cooler.

For gaming performance, I would go with a wired keyboard and mouse.

When "SANDY BRIDGE" launches 1Q2011, we will see processors that are a bit better than today's 760. But, your 760 will still be able to run as well as ever, and should be more than capable of running any sort of game for a number of years. The most likely upgrades you will want are still possible.
You might want a second monitor or a second GTX460.
A SSD makes everything feel snappier, and the prices are coming down.

As a suggestion, download and read cover to cover the motherboard and case manuals before ordering.

---good luck---
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September 7, 2010 10:51:48 PM

Thanks for the quick replies and advice.

Taking in account the changes of a few things here is the list of products im leaning towards.


Intel Core i5 760 Processor LGA1156 2.80GHz 8MB Cache CPU
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_l [...] &sid=64185

Cooler Master Hyper TX3
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

Asus P7P55D-E-Pro 4DDR3 FSB2133(OC)RAID GBLAN PCIEx16 SATA3 USB3.0 ATX
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_l [...] &sid=53928

eVGA GF GTX460 1G DDR5 EE SC (SuperClocked, External Exhaust) Edition
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

or

Gigabyte GF GTX460 1G OC DDR5 2xDualLinkDVI miniHDMI
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

If there just as good ill get the Gigabyte, just liked the look of the EVGA but meh, who will see it.

Samsung 500G SATA II 7200rpm HD502HJ
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

Sony AD7240SGB 22X SATA OEM DVD RW Black http://umart.com.au/pro/products_l [...] &sid=49647

CoolerMaster SGC-6000-KXN1 Storm Sniper Black Ed http://umart.com.au/pro/products_l [...] &sid=50184

However still not sure, am tossing up between the HAF 922 still.

CoolerMaster RC-922M-KWNI HAF Black w Side Panel
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...


Corsair TX-750 750W ATX Power
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_l [...] &sid=50676

GSkill 4G(2x2G) DDR3 1600Mhz PC12800 CL8(4GBTD)
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

The only thing im not really sure about is the monitor, im not very fussed on how big it is so a 21" or 23" will be fine, i just dont want to pay big bucks for a fancy 23" monitor that i could get cheaper at 21".

Here are two was looking at:

Acer G225HQBD 22" Wide LCD 21.5" 50K:1 5ms 1080P Black Full HD$19cashback $19 cashback from Acer till end of Septhttp://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

or

Asus VH242H 23.6inch Wide 5ms 1920 x 1080P HD DVI Speakers
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

Questions:

Are either of those monitors fine?

And is that cpu cooler any good or rubbish? I did like the:

Xigmatek CPU Cooler S1283 Dark Knight R3
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

Just thought if the other one was as good, it would be better seeing its cheaper.

Thanks once again for answering everything so fast, this site is a life saver and the best hardware information site around
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September 8, 2010 4:23:33 AM

^ Why not those PSUs? IMO those would be good too also they are modular, hence less clutter, but if you are good with cable management, then its fine...

CPU cooler - The TX3 is fine if you will not overclock high, but the the Dark Knight is a very good one...Another very good cheaper option, far better than the TX3 and maybe as good as the Dark Knight -
CM Hyper 212+
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...

LCDs, some good options -
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id...
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&bi...
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&bi...
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