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Anonymous
July 13, 2005 6:27:53 PM

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Succinctly, it's caused as much difficulty and incompatibility issues
as it's brought benefits. I recently attempted to play an older game I
have, which ran before SP2, but refuses to run now. There are a number
of similar such problems I've encountered. Anyone experience these type
issues?

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Anonymous
July 13, 2005 7:54:42 PM

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The game ('People's General') was released in August of '98. Shouldn't
XP/SP2 be compatible with games released for Windows 98? Any idea as to
how I can get it to run?
Anonymous
July 13, 2005 8:37:23 PM

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No. You need to precisely describe what problems you are eXPerieincing
so that some thoughtful troubleshooting advice can be offered to help you.
All you are saying is you're having a problem without describing the problem
in detail.

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"aether" wrote:

| Succinctly, it's caused as much difficulty and incompatibility issues
| as it's brought benefits. I recently attempted to play an older game I
| have, which ran before SP2, but refuses to run now. There are a number
| of similar such problems I've encountered. Anyone experience these type
| issues?
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Anonymous
July 13, 2005 9:02:54 PM

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Maybe the game is compatible with SP-2 and maybe not.
Have you tried Compatibility Mode:
Right click the game icon
Click Properties
Click Compatibility

There is a small number of programs that will not work and the manufacturer
is the source for that information.
Contact the game manufacturer or other users of that game for possible
solutions.

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"aether" <vercingetorix@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The game ('People's General') was released in August of '98. Shouldn't
> XP/SP2 be compatible with games released for Windows 98? Any idea as to
> how I can get it to run?
>
Anonymous
July 13, 2005 9:48:34 PM

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No, it's not debatable. As with any "Platform" that essentially is raised
(SP2), you have to have updates & patches for those things that work
on the platform. Sorry you're having issues, but most if not all can be
resolved. No platform can continue to support every legacy application
and piece of hardware. It's a double-edged sword. Microsoft has to
move forward to support new technology, while at the same time trying
to allow as much older stuff to work on it as well.
Lot's of XP users have experienced problems with Service Pack 2.
Most of those users that expended some time & research probably resolved
those issues. Have you bothered to visit the game manufacturer's website
and check for an update or just stopped in here to "Stir the Pot".


"aether" <vercingetorix@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1121290073.109119.253270@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Succinctly, it's caused as much difficulty and incompatibility issues
> as it's brought benefits. I recently attempted to play an older game I
> have, which ran before SP2, but refuses to run now. There are a number
> of similar such problems I've encountered. Anyone experience these type
> issues?
>
Anonymous
July 13, 2005 10:02:59 PM

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How to use the Program Compatibility Wizard in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324767

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/window...

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"aether" wrote:

| The game ('People's General') was released in August of '98. Shouldn't
| XP/SP2 be compatible with games released for Windows 98? Any idea as to
| how I can get it to run?
Anonymous
July 13, 2005 10:35:25 PM

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See:

Using programs and hardware with Service Pack 2 (SP2)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;ln;xpsp2swhw

Some programs seem to stop working after you install WinXP SP2
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=842242

Programs that may behave differently in WinXP SP2
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=884130

WinXP SP2 Related Resources
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;ln;xpsp2instres

WinXP SP2 Release Notes
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=835935

The hard disk space requirements for Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=837783

Application Compatibility Testing and Mitigation Guide for Windows XP
Service Pack 2
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyI...
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MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security


aether wrote:
> Succinctly, it's caused as much difficulty and incompatibility issues
> as it's brought benefits. I recently attempted to play an older game I
> have, which ran before SP2, but refuses to run now. There are a number
> of similar such problems I've encountered. Anyone experience these type
> issues?
Anonymous
July 13, 2005 11:43:25 PM

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Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
> Maybe the game is compatible with SP-2 and maybe not.
> Have you tried Compatibility Mode:
> Right click the game icon
> Click Properties
> Click Compatibility
>
> There is a small number of programs that will not work and the manufacturer
> is the source for that information.
> Contact the game manufacturer or other users of that game for possible
> solutions.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org

Problem solved. Thank you. What happened was I had tried compatibility
mode with a couple other games to no avail, and so this time figured it
would do the same.
Anonymous
July 14, 2005 12:04:17 AM

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aether wrote:
> Succinctly, it's caused as much difficulty and incompatibility issues
> as it's brought benefits. I recently attempted to play an older game I
> have, which ran before SP2, but refuses to run now. There are a number
> of similar such problems I've encountered. Anyone experience these type
> issues?
>


Nope. Not on dozens of machines.

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Anonymous
July 14, 2005 12:08:46 AM

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"aether" <vercingetorix@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Succinctly, it's caused as much difficulty and incompatibility issues
> as it's brought benefits. I recently attempted to play an older game I
> have, which ran before SP2, but refuses to run now. There are a number
> of similar such problems I've encountered. Anyone experience these type
> issues?
>

For most people the benefits outweigh the disadvantages. If you are in the
minority and have something that you need to run that is not compatible
there are ways to use third party applications to get most of the same
benefits ay least as far as security is concerned. I always recommend using
SP2 if at all possible but I have clients where it is not and have found
ways to keep them secure. First and foremost is a good firewall. I prefer a
hardware firewall or Linux box. I also use a proxy server but this is
probably overkill. Next you have to make sure you still do all the IE and OE
related updates or use a different browser and email app. As with any
computer SP2 or not, install an antivirus and a couple of antispyware apps.

Kerry
Anonymous
July 14, 2005 3:31:23 AM

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"aether" <vercingetorix@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1121290073.109119.253270@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Succinctly, it's caused as much difficulty and incompatibility issues
> as it's brought benefits. I recently attempted to play an older game I
> have, which ran before SP2, but refuses to run now. There are a number
> of similar such problems I've encountered. Anyone experience these type
> issues?
>

I doubt it. You've had a few problems with things written before XP, go back
to the operating system it was written for. Or dual boot. Or look on your
unnamed game writers site for help. Or post some details. Otherwise
alt.moanandgroan.butdoingnothingabout.it seems a better newsgroup for you.
Anonymous
July 14, 2005 4:00:20 AM

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"aether" <vercingetorix@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1121295282.689726.109710@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> The game ('People's General') was released in August of '98. Shouldn't
> XP/SP2 be compatible with games released for Windows 98? Any idea as to
> how I can get it to run?
>

Or shouldn't the game be written to be compatible with the OS? Look on the
publishers site, email them.
July 15, 2005 3:08:28 AM

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In news:1121290073.109119.253270@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,
aether <vercingetorix@hotmail.com> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> Succinctly, it's caused as much difficulty and incompatibility issues
> as it's brought benefits. I recently attempted to play an older game I
> have, which ran before SP2, but refuses to run now. There are a number
> of similar such problems I've encountered. Anyone experience these
> type issues?

I see compatability mode worked for you. For future reference:

Getting Older Games to Run on Windows XP:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/games/expert/d...

Galen
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without them."

Sherlock Holmes
Anonymous
July 17, 2005 10:01:51 PM

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*update*

It worked, but not for very long. This marks another failure for
Windows' 'compatibility mode', as virtually every application I've
attempted to access with it fails to function properly.
Anonymous
July 18, 2005 3:17:13 AM

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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 18:02:59 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
<cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote:

>How to use the Program Compatibility Wizard in Windows XP
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324767

The above links to: "Error message when you install or start an MS-DOS
or 16-bit Windows-based program".

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Anonymous
July 18, 2005 3:18:38 AM

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On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:08:28 -0400, "Galen" <galennews@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Getting Older Games to Run on Windows XP:
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/games/expert/d...

The link 404s.

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Guy

** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
** out of someone who richly deserves it.
July 18, 2005 5:10:53 AM

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HOW TO: Use the Program Compatibility Wizard
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q301911

Software Compatibility Site for Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_conflicts.htm
http://www.xpsc.net/

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"Dr Teeth" <no.email.here.please@tardis.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 18:02:59 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
> <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>How to use the Program Compatibility Wizard in Windows XP
>>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324767
>
> The above links to: "Error message when you install or start an MS-DOS
> or 16-bit Windows-based program".
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> Guy
>
> ** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
> ** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
> ** out of someone who richly deserves it.
Anonymous
July 25, 2005 2:34:01 AM

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More oddities from XP.

Attempting to install something, and I get the odd message that
there's, "Not enough free space on drive. Please free up some space on
drive, and try again." I've over 50 GB of free space on this particular
drive. I ran check disk, no errors, and I defragmented. Any idea what
the problem is?
Anonymous
July 26, 2005 12:36:25 AM

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XP is just full of surprises. Now my ROM drives aren't functioning.
Now, I know it isn't the hardware because they both worked the last
time I checked. XP, and it's incessant updates, simply have a knack for
messing and slowing things up.
!