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Two gaming PC builds, please advice and/or comment to help me choose.

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September 8, 2010 3:43:48 PM

Okay, here we go.
Thanks to gkay I've managed to kind of set up two systems.
Here they are.

[ i7 950 setup ]
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Processor: Intel i7 950
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UDR3
Power Supply Unit: CoolerMaster Silent Pro M700
Memory: Corsair Dominator 6GB (3x2) 1600
Graphics: Asus ENGTX460 1G
Hard Disk: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
Case: CoolerMaster HAF 932


[ i5 760 setup ]
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Processor: Intel i5 760
Motherboard: Asus P7P55D-E PRO
Power Supply Unit: CoolerMaster Silent Pro M700
Memory: Corsair XMS3 6GB (3x2) 1333
Graphics: Asus ENGTX460 768MB
Hard Disk: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
Case: CoolerMaster HAF 932


What do you think of these setups? The i7 setup will cost me around 200 euro more than the i5 setup, so I'm wondering if people can come up with alternative components (for either setup).
There's one catch though, the shop I'm going to buy all components at does not have a lot of brands that I've seen around these forums.
For example, they don't have G.Skill RAM. Obviously they'll have ASUS, Gigabyte, Corsair, Kingston stuff, etc.
Anyway, let's just hear what you guys can come up with as alternatives.

Thanks in advance,
~ Dennis.








September 8, 2010 4:05:11 PM

On the i5 system you would only have 2x2GB RAM, since it only does dual channel.
On the i5 system you should use the same 460 1GB card.

Do that and for gaming purposes the systems are equal, but the i5 is cheaper.

You also dont need that huge HAF 932 with a mid-range graphics card (unless you plan on running more than 5 HDDs/SSDs). A smaller HAF 922 or other mid-tower case with good cooling would work fine and be cheaper. CM690, Antec 200 and Antec 300 would be worth looking at.
September 8, 2010 4:09:08 PM

dominator RAM is overpriced. XMS3 6gb kit's are just as good for less.

Also, you can do much better than that PSU. Corsair 750TX or XFX 750 are alternative for same price or less.

You should also fill out the form in sticky, link in my sig.
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September 8, 2010 5:53:39 PM

dndhatcher said:
On the i5 system you would only have 2x2GB RAM, since it only does dual channel.
On the i5 system you should use the same 460 1GB card.

Do that and for gaming purposes the systems are equal, but the i5 is cheaper.


What if I occasionally work with 3D programs as well? I bet I'll notice it lots if I take the i7 over the i5?
I work with Autodesk Maya and from what I know is that a faster CPU makes rendering way faster, more so than a faster GPU.

Thanks for pointing out the RAM issue, hadn't checked that.
Wasn't sure about the PSU either, been a few years since I've assembled a system.
September 8, 2010 7:31:22 PM

You should check about keeping the P55 motherboard and get an i7 860 CPU, which is an 1156 socket cpu like the i5 760 but has hyperthreading like the i7 950. It should match the 950 at your 3d tasks and may be a bit cheaper.

It would also be a good idea to get a decent CPU cooler and overclock a bit, regardless of if you choose and i5 7xx, i7 8xx or i7 9xx CPU.
September 8, 2010 8:55:44 PM

dndhatcher said:
You should check about keeping the P55 motherboard and get an i7 860 CPU, which is an 1156 socket cpu like the i5 760 but has hyperthreading like the i7 950. It should match the 950 at your 3d tasks and may be a bit cheaper.

It would also be a good idea to get a decent CPU cooler and overclock a bit, regardless of if you choose and i5 7xx, i7 8xx or i7 9xx CPU.


The difference in price between the i7 860 and i7 950 is only 15 euro.
September 8, 2010 9:03:04 PM

d_nn_s said:
The difference in price between the i7 860 and i7 950 is only 15 euro.

The P55 vs X58 motherboard price is normally a larger savings than the CPU price.

However if you plan to get a second 460 in the future, then the x58/i7 950 will be the way to go.
September 9, 2010 7:45:55 AM

I was wondering about that, are most graphic cards capable of SLI nowadays?
Checking out the ASUS ENGTX460 1G, I couldn't really see whether or not it supports SLI.
September 9, 2010 8:17:55 AM

banthracis said:
dominator RAM is overpriced. XMS3 6gb kit's are just as good for less.

Also, you can do much better than that PSU. Corsair 750TX or XFX 750 are alternative for same price or less.

You should also fill out the form in sticky, link in my sig.


Do I need the extra 50Watts?
I prefer a quiet PSU, that's why I chose this one.

Also, perhaps in the future I'll add another GFU, like dndhatcher mentioned.
September 9, 2010 10:22:49 AM

You could get an AMD x6 build, depending on how it prices out.
September 9, 2010 1:38:48 PM

I'm going to go for the following:

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Processor: Intel i7 950
CPU cooler: Arctic Cooling Freezer Xtreme Rev. 2
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UDR3
Power Supply Unit: CoolerMaster Silent Pro M700
Memory: Corsair Dominator 6GB (3x2) 1600
Graphics: Asus ENGTX460 1G
Hard Disk: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 60GB
Case: CoolerMaster HAF 932


The only remaining quesion that I have is: will the PSU be able to handle itself with this setup?
What about if I want to add another GTX 460 in the future?


September 9, 2010 5:03:51 PM

The PSU fan is not the major noisemaker in a gaming PC. The HAF 932 case fans, gaming graphics card fan and the 92mm CPU cooler fan all are going to be louder than a standard PSU fan. Buying a silent PSU is for people who will also be putting in silent case fans and quiet CPU coolers. If you are not going all the way for silent, its a waste of money to get an overpriced silent PSU.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/power_supply/cooler_...
Quote:
the voltage stability of the unit is somewhat unusual, with both the +5v and +12v rails taking a roller-coaster ride depending on the distribution of load between them



That motherboard will handle a second 460. That PSU should handle a second 460 and overclocking.


You have a huge case, seems silly not to get a larger, quieter 120mm CPU cooler in it.
September 9, 2010 9:13:13 PM

dndhatcher said:

That motherboard will handle a second 460. That PSU should handle a second 460 and overclocking.
You have a huge case, seems silly not to get a larger, quieter 120mm CPU cooler in it.


Okay so the motherboard is fine and 700W should be plenty (though you'd probably replace it for another one), even when I add a 2nd 460 somewhere in the future, right?

So what would you suggest as CPU cooler?



September 9, 2010 9:18:22 PM

Best performance per price: (under $50)
Coolermaster Hyper 212 plus
Scythe Mugen 2 (SCMG-2100)
Kingwin 1264
Xigmatek Dark Knight or Balder
Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer

Top end (still under $100)
Corsair H50
Noctua NH-D14
Prolimatech MegaShadow or Megahalems or SuperMega or Armageddon
September 10, 2010 10:36:09 AM

The Prolimatech SuperMega seems nice.
It looks huge though, will it fit in my case?
Also, do I need to buy separate fans to connect on top? Or only if I want to start overclocking?

As for the Corsair H50, I've seen some cases where the pump makes a lot of noise (the fan is very quiet though).
I've also never tried watercooling before, no idea what to expect of it.

If I'm not going to overclock, will the others (the best performance per prices ones) be good enough?
September 10, 2010 11:21:46 AM

in a HAF 932? everything, even mega-huge 170mm heatsinks fit that huge case.

Really, get a Cooler Master 690 II for half the cost. It cam mount 5 140mm or 10 (!) 120mm fans. still plenty of room for the Supermega heat sink (its 8.4 inches wide) and only $69 compared to $129 for the 932.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
September 10, 2010 11:41:52 AM

you don't need a case that big, my friend got one, and he had to buy a new desk... Besides you don't need THAT much room.
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