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[Solved] Dell precision 690 PCI

Forum Graphics & Displays : Graphics Cards [Solved] Dell precision 690 PCI

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Hello i have just bought a dell precision 690 and wanted to upgrade the video card, but i found some information that kind of didnt make any sense. "Support for PCI Express x16 graphics cards up to 150 watts and with up to 512MB graphics". can someone please tell me if this is just outdated info or something just strange. By the way its the 750 watt power supply version not the 1000 watt version. thank you

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Hello i have just bought a dell precision 690 and wanted to upgrade the video card, but i found some information that kind of didnt make any sense. "Support for PCI Express x16 graphics cards up to 150 watts and with up to 512MB graphics". can someone please tell me if this is just outdated info or something just strange. By the way its the 750 watt power supply version not the 1000 watt version. thank you




IT WORKS the info is just out dated.

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I just now found this thread, my apologies...
I knew it would work, did you have to update the BIOS or not.?

 

when the 690 came out it was a time when 8800GT's were one of the top cards.
DDR3 was the fastest and i do not believe 1GB cards were out or only a few had been released.
what's your cpu, a xeon dual core what.? and is that a dual cpu socket board.?


Message edited by malmental on 01-11-2011 at 10:42:08 PM
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when i bought my Precision 690 the BIOS was updated to A08. and it has 2 CPU slots and right now there are Intel Xeon 5050 Dual core 3.00Ghz. two of them

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nice set-up....
got any risers installed and what OS if you don't mind the questions.?
if you see in my signature i used to 'dwell' for dell....

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I don't have any risers installed cause i wasnt sure if it did crossfire, but if it does how do I install them, and im running Windows 7. Also ask all the questions you want the more you know the more you can help me


Message edited by Precision690FAN on 01-12-2011 at 01:35:56 AM
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curious about system specs and since win7 what's the WEI scores.?

 

it does 'unofficially' support SLI and Crossfire. just need the correct drivers.
SLI as long as you have the riser card and an SLI bridge.
The only problem is that the 1000watt power supply doesn't have enough connectors to power a second card
and you have the 750-watt model..

 


Message edited by malmental on 01-12-2011 at 01:40:32 AM
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O SNAP!! I DO HAVE THE 750 Watt model! so can i use the risers to do crossfire? cause i have the crossfire bridge.
my WEI is

Processor: 6.8
RAM: 6.8
Graphics: 7.8
Gaming graphics: 7.8
Primary hard disk: 7.8

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SSD for HDD.?
and your RAM must be DDR2 667..
depends on the cards if you can run dual and their power requirements..

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Ya SSD, and your right about the RAM, also i can match the power requirements. Theres only 1 PCI-E 16x slot and im not sure how to use the risers. can you clairfy.

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it's been awhile so I'll have to look that back up and re-fresh myself of knowledge. LOL..
the risers install on-top of the other slot it kinda modifies it..


Message edited by malmental on 01-12-2011 at 02:47:57 AM
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Ok and that will work for my precision 690, 750watt version? If so, i can look up more info on how to get it and how to install it.

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O, ya...So will this work? cause it rises it and i see no way to raise the slots in the back on my case. or by the time i get all the parts will it cost the same amount as the Precision T7400s motherboard which i hear fits the 690s case the same, and just has two PCI-E 16x slots..

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there ya go then..

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Ya I might look into it, thanks for all the help.

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no problem..
any other ideas or questions.?

 

what gfx card are you running now.?


Message edited by malmental on 01-12-2011 at 02:34:35 PM
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my graphics card is a Sapphire Radeon HD 5870 1GB DDR and 1600 Stream Processing Units. the new egg number is #N82E16814102872. and do you know if the Precision T7400s Motherboard will fit in the Precision 690 case, cause i already know the socket is the same for the CPU, and the RAM is the same, and the power pins are the same.

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I'll look it up and get back to you on that..

 

what is the exact motherboard model number you have now.?
there are a few different ones.
Dell 0-MY171
Dell DT029
Dell F9394

 

690 board layout:
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/malmental/paris_u6.jpg


Message edited by malmental on 01-12-2011 at 05:39:06 PM
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thanks, i guess the real question is that, do the Precision 690 and T7400 have the same case, and will I need to upgrade to the 1000Watt powersupply

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I'm looking for a pic of the T7400 and then I can compare the two and see if the wholes do indeed line up.
I think it will fit and if you need to mod the case in anyway, it's nothing a dremel 300 can't do.


Message edited by malmental on 01-12-2011 at 05:45:57 PM
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they do and take a look at the back of both, 690 on top and T7400 bottom:

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/malmental/PRECISION-690-RCD-R.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/malmental/precn_t7400_shots.jpg

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perfectly from this shot but we need to verify the holes for the screws.
looking good tho...


Message edited by malmental on 01-12-2011 at 05:51:21 PM
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sweet, i have been on a few forums and so far what i can gather it will work. I might call dell and see if i can find out from them if the holes line up, but ya i like the dremel idea.

 

wait... the mother board rest on a metal pan looking thing that can be taken out. So if the T7400 has the same "pan" it should just slide in there, right?
and my motherboard is the dell F9394


Message edited by Precision690FAN on 01-12-2011 at 06:01:48 PM
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the pan IS transferable yes..

 

looking good bro...
it's costly so i like the fact that the research is looking good.
no need for calling Dell, lets just do it like Nike..


Message edited by malmental on 01-12-2011 at 06:08:04 PM
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Great! now for the final question! will crossfire work with the T7400s Motherboard?

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I know that the SLI bridge part number is #MJ247.
For SLI to work you need to have an Nvidia nForce 100 chip on the motherboard. The T7400 doesn't have this natively, which is where the riser comes in; it splits a single PCIe 2.0 16x channel into 2 and adds the Nvidia bridge chip.
look at the graphics section:
http://www.visible-edge.com/docume [...] csheet.pdf
http://www.delltechcenter.com/thre [...] orkstation

 

I do not know about Cross-Fire for it is paired with nVidia from what I have seen and remember for these units.
still looking tho.


Message edited by malmental on 01-12-2011 at 06:39:57 PM
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does dell only say nvidia because thats who they had there contract with? and what do you think will happen if i got the motherboard and just put two of the same ati graphics cards in and put a crossfire bridge on them.

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I have no clue...
i could be a hacker and say use hacked drivers, there is truth to that statement and hacked drivers are out there.
it might work but I doubt it so the only way is to try it..

 

i think the capabilities are going to be limited if I can remember and maybe even only one screen or two max and not three or four monitors at once
even in SLI or possible x-fire..


Message edited by malmental on 01-12-2011 at 06:59:00 PM
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ok so we know the motherboard will work, so theres no harm in getting it, the worst thing that can happen is i will have the urge to upgrade the CPU. So i guess the only thing left to do is find out by trial and error.... and what do the hacked drivers do?

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i think im just going to buy the motherboard and try it, cause i wanted the new motherboard anyway. and it also turns it into a Precision T7400 with a 690 Print on the front, which saves me $2000

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allow for hardware to work 'unofficially'...
urge to upgrade cpu shouldn't happen until you go all the way new like Intel SB i5 or i7
or even AMD/Bulldozer if AMD fan..
a processor upgrade will be expensive unless you do get it for cheap..


Message edited by malmental on 01-12-2011 at 07:46:25 PM
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are there BTX AMD motherboards? or to be able to do that i would have to get a new CPU, RAM, and Powersupply

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with a case that big, I'm sure an ATX even SLI or x-fire board will be able to fit..
i think your asking id Dell has any btx boards that are a match for the 690 case.?
answer NO.
HP does have in there equivalent to the Dell Precision an AMD board.
I do not think that Dell does.

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ok, so now im thinking that if I want to do crossfire or SLI i would like to do a custom build. because I have been looking on newegg for along time now, and i know what i want my computer to be.
You said an ATX motherboard will fit the precision case.

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should, yes but you might need to modify some.
I am not sure because I have never done such a move in the precision..

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ok, i got all the ideas now, thanks for all the help, and answering all my questions.

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no problem. good-luck with your project..

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