Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question

$1400 Gaming Build FFXIV

Last response: in Systems
Share
September 9, 2010 5:50:57 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: 3 weeks
BUDGET RANGE: $1000-$1400 Before Rebates

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming (FFXIV) , Watching movies ,surfing web

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Everything needed besides OS

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg.com, also I have a microcenter close by

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

PARTS PREFERENCES: Never have had an AMD always have had prebuilt dells , kinda of leaving towards Intel due to benchmarking results for FFXIV

OVERCLOCKING: Never tried it

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 trying to get full HD

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I increased my budget because I see most builds here already have monitor mouse and keyboard and other small things.
a b 4 Gaming
September 9, 2010 6:45:14 PM

i5-760 $170 at microcenter
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

Case
CM 690 II $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HD
Spinpoint F3 1tb $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU
GTX 470 $300 w/ $20 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Usually I don't recommend fermi's due to their horrendous heat + power, but since they're now only $10 more than the cheapest 5850, it's worth it.

PSU
XFX 850 w $127.50 w/ $20 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
top PSU value/$ right now, and will run SLI gtx 470's.

RAM
G Skill Eco $98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo/Optical
Asus p7p55D-E Pro and Asus $192
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Monitor
Asus 23.6" $190 w/ $10 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Keyboard and Mouse is really personal preference. Get ones with the features you want. Here are 2 well recommended and excellent general ones.

Mouse
MX518 $41
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Keyboard
Saitek Eclipse II $53
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total Before Shipping, rebates and tax: $1316.50
$60 in Rebates


Speakers/headset is really up to you to decide what you want/need.
m
0
l
Related resources
September 9, 2010 6:58:39 PM

just a quick note, FFXIV favors ATI over Nvidia in terms of benchmark, so you might want to consider a 5850 or 5870.

I have a i7 920 with gtx 260, and athlon 635 with 5850(yea, i know it's weird), the difference in benchmark is about 1000 even with 635 bottlenecking
m
0
l
September 9, 2010 7:07:58 PM

Microcenter still has a sell going on where you can purchase an i7 930 processor for 200 bucks but you must pick it up in store.

Processor: 199.99 i7-930
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

CPU Fan/Heatsink: 59.99 Thermalright U120eXtrem1366RT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Case: 69.99 Antec Three Hundred
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: 109.99 CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Motherboard: 189.99 ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram: 149.99 A-DATA Plus Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR 3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video Card: 229.99 GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor: 199.99 ASUS MS238H Glossy Black 23" 2ms Ring stand LED
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard drive: 74.99 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Keyboard: 52.99 Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mouse: 40.99 Logitech MX 518
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CD/DVD drive: 24.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

TOTAL: 1403.88

I was not sure if you needed speakers or not but if you do then I can shed a few dollars off of the heatsink/fan and the hard drive. I tried to make sure you could get a good 1366 socket build on a budget. I will try to post a 1156 socket build for you later.
= )
m
0
l
a b 4 Gaming
September 9, 2010 7:09:19 PM

It's a non-issue with a GTX 470. He's gonna be above 60 FPS and monitor can't display higher than that anyway.

Size wise the 23.6" are actually same size as the 24" ones.
2ms vs 5ms response time is not something you'll notice, so no, not worth the money.
m
0
l
September 9, 2010 7:16:38 PM

175422561 said:
just a quick note, FFXIV favors ATI over Nvidia in terms of benchmark, so you might want to consider a 5850 or 5870.

I have a i7 920 with gtx 260, and athlon 635 with 5850(yea, i know it's weird), the difference in benchmark is about 1000 even with 635 bottlenecking


everyone is saying over all the FFXIV fourms that nvidia is waiting for the CR to update the drivers for the game and then the nvidia will smash ati cards. Also everyone has seen better results with the i7-930 or whatever it is but yet everyone recommends the i5-760. If i overclock the i7 wont it be better I mean its only what 30 bucks more at microcenter right now ?
m
0
l
a b 4 Gaming
September 9, 2010 7:45:57 PM

i7 is not a gaming CPU, it's a workstation CPU. Extra threads are useless and hyper threading actually decreasing gaming performance.

Only reason to go i7 for gaming is if you want to use 3 or more GPU's.

m
0
l
September 9, 2010 8:27:59 PM

banthracis said:
i7 is not a gaming CPU, it's a workstation CPU. Extra threads are useless and hyper threading actually decreasing gaming performance.

Only reason to go i7 for gaming is if you want to use 3 or more GPU's.



What if you disable HT in the bios?

To Grimmjow1,

Have you considered gtx 460? It has a better architecture and more power efficient and less heat. Two of these can easily smoke a 480
m
0
l
September 9, 2010 8:37:14 PM

P55 systems have the advantage still in that they have a lower TDP (overclock better) and have higher turbos. Beat the i7s in gaming by about ~5% for equally clock chips.

460 is the same architecture, Fermi. It's had a few revisions, but has the same TDP/mm squared.
m
0
l
a b 4 Gaming
September 9, 2010 8:51:00 PM

175422561 said:
What if you disable HT in the bios?



Then you're wasting your money paying extra for a feature you're gonna be disabling.
m
0
l
September 9, 2010 8:58:24 PM

banthracis said:
Then you're wasting your money paying extra for a feature you're gonna be disabling.



I just mentioned that since you were saying HT decreases gaming performance
m
0
l
September 9, 2010 8:59:48 PM

It does, and then you're spending extra for a feature you disabled.
m
0
l
September 10, 2010 1:05:53 AM

banthracis said:
i5-760 $170 at microcenter
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

Case
CM 690 II $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HD
Spinpoint F3 1tb $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU
GTX 470 $300 w/ $20 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Usually I don't recommend fermi's due to their horrendous heat + power, but since they're now only $10 more than the cheapest 5850, it's worth it.

PSU
XFX 850 w $127.50 w/ $20 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
top PSU value/$ right now, and will run SLI gtx 470's.

RAM
G Skill Eco $98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo/Optical
Asus p7p55D-E Pro and Asus $192
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Monitor
Asus 23.6" $190 w/ $10 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Keyboard and Mouse is really personal preference. Get ones with the features you want. Here are 2 well recommended and excellent general ones.

Mouse
MX518 $41
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Keyboard
Saitek Eclipse II $53
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total Before Shipping, rebates and tax: $1316.50
$60 in Rebates


Speakers/headset is really up to you to decide what you want/need.


So this would be the best build for what I am wanting to do with it since you guys are saying the i7 are for multitasking. I mean I guess I will kind of be multitasking running vent, ffxiv, and maybe IE but thats about it. Also why in the benchmarker for FFXIV the i7 is doing better than the i5 with the gtx 460. Also I was planning on going with the 460 just wanted to see peoples opinions first and see what they would go with. Lastly does anyone know how a game sponser by nvidia ati cards are doing better with it. is it the drivers they are waiting to come out with or is there something else ? Can you overclock a i5 to a 4.0 like you can with the i7 ?
m
0
l
September 10, 2010 2:15:11 AM

BUMP ! anyone ?
m
0
l
September 10, 2010 7:32:10 PM

1. I think why people earlier recommended the i5 instead of the i7 (and what they mean by 'multitasking') is that you're not going to use any productivity software that might benefit from more threads (CAD, photoshop, etc.). So the i5 is definitely the choice for you as a quad core can handle all the things you plan to do. That being said, the i7 will best the i5 in all benchmarks. It's a matter of whether you want to spend the extra $ at microcenter for it.

2. I feel like 2x460 1gb will be more than enough for all your gaming needs. Of course 2x470 will beat it, it's up to you to see if it's worth it.

3. I'm not quite sure what you're asking "anyone know how a game sponser by nivida ati cards are doing better with it", but usually it is a driver issue, as gpu performance vary from game to game. I have no idea if you can count on future driver updates to correct this though.

4. Yes, the i5-760 (like the i5-750) overclocks very well. Get a good cpu cooler though, the stock intel one isn't very good. Get the hyper 212+ to help with over clocking

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


m
0
l
September 10, 2010 11:38:50 PM

is the i7 worth it though for waht i am going to be doing with the computer or not though? I dont want to have to spend more on the cpu mobo and ram if not needed. I just want a good build that will give me flawless game play with out any lag in high populated areas where everyone is like auction houses and good battle areas with a lot of moving. I will probably end up going with the 470 for just the extra bucks. endless it would be better I had been hearing over other fourms that the 460 can overclcok better than the 470 but I dunno how to do any overclocking whats so ever lol. newbie. I am also wanting longtivity in this build hopefully 3-4+.

Thanks for all the responses so far guys keep them coming still got a week about to decide on my order.
m
0
l
September 11, 2010 12:15:11 AM

Is the i7 worth the extra money for gaming? No. Definitely not. Unless you really want to go to the extreme and get a few more fps.

Overclocking the gpus are a lot easier than you think. It's a lot easier than overclocking the cpu for sure. I'm sure if you google around for a bit, you'll find some kind of guide. Use MSI afterburner, and overclock your gpu step by step, being sure to check for stability with a program like furmark.
m
0
l
September 11, 2010 1:49:33 AM

This is what I have decided on for sure so far
banthracis said:
i5-760 $170 at microcenter
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

Case
Antec Nine Hundred Two Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129058&Tpk=antec%20902

HD
Spinpoint F3 1tb $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU
EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-130-550&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=10&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo

PSU
XFX 850 w $127.50 w/ $20 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
top PSU value/$ right now, and will run SLI gtx 470's.

RAM
G Skill Eco $98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo/Optical
Asus p7p55D-E Pro and Asus $192
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Monitor
Asus 23.6" $190 w/ $10 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
ASUS MS238H Glossy Black 23" 2ms Ring stand & Ergo-fit LED backlight LCD Monitor Slim Design 250 cd/m2 10,000,000 :1 (ASCR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236075&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=3463938&SID=egl27xk7v8

Keyboard and Mouse is really personal preference. Get ones with the features you want. Here are 2 well recommended and excellent general ones.

Mouse
RAZER DeathAdder Precision Optical Gaming Mouse - 3.5G Infrared Sensor $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Keyboard: 52.99 Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6823109191


Total Before Shipping, rebates and tax: $1394.50
$60 in Rebates




Let me know what you guys think on that mobo for some reason I thought i was suppose to get a different one. Is 8x/8x good enough if I do decide to run these in SLI and will the 850 run both of them, also can this board use both usb 3.0 and sata 6 ?
m
0
l
!