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ATI Radeon 4870 Vs 5770... Which Is Better You Speak For It

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September 11, 2010 12:55:01 AM

SO whats better

4870 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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5770 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I dont care about directx 11. I want whatever gives me more FPS i dont care if its dx 9 or dx 11.
Which Card will give me more FPS in games.
Benchmarks say 4870 is faster but i want your guys opinions!
September 11, 2010 1:24:48 AM

The 4870 is faster, and if all you care about is performance, then that is what you want. The 5770 does have benefits, however, such as DirectX 11 (which you said you don't care about anyway), eyefinity (allowing up to three monitors simultaneously), and a much lower power consumption.

The choice is yours, ultimately; it all depends on which of these qualities are important to you.
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September 11, 2010 1:29:37 AM

yea i dont care about eyefinity or dx11. But i heard that 5770 has matured drivers. But another question which will last me for the longer time? i will upgrade my card after 2 years. so should i get 5770 or 4870
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September 11, 2010 1:47:45 AM

Get the 5770 but not that one, get one with custom cooling.

Being much cooler you can OC it past the 4870 and the OC is very easy, you just move a couple of sliders.

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September 11, 2010 1:49:29 AM

hmm okay but i can overclock the 4870 too. you know... but which will last me longer a 4870 or a 5770?
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September 11, 2010 1:55:15 AM

If you're just looking for the best performance and you're not worried about anything else, just get whichever is cheaper. The performance difference between the 4870 and the 5770 is no more than 5-10%, so it really depends on how much you want to spend.
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September 11, 2010 2:06:17 AM

^When comparing the 512 MB version of the 4870, yes, they are about equal, but when given a full 1 GB VRAM, the 4870 pulls ahead (stock performance).
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September 11, 2010 2:08:36 AM

rolli59 how coem i dont see the 1Gb version of 4870... its noticebly faster look at this
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/176?vs=172

its significantly faster. so which is better the only reason i feel like sticking to 5770 is because cuz of the low power needed
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September 11, 2010 2:09:55 AM

^That's one of the benefits of the 5770; in terms of power consumption, it exceeds the 4870 in performance per watt.
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September 11, 2010 2:18:18 AM

but my qyestion is can a OCZ 500w take on 4870? since it uses more power then 5770
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September 11, 2010 2:19:54 AM

What are the rest of your system specs, along with the exact model number of the OCZ psu?
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September 11, 2010 2:28:13 AM

The psu will support either of those cards just fine.

TBH, the quad core won't give you much extra performance over the triple, so you might consider getting the triple and buying a aftermarket heatsink/fan with the extra money (provided it wasn't already in your budget) so you can OC your cpu. Then again, getting the 5770 means less power consumption, meaning lower electric bills.
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September 11, 2010 2:34:05 AM

hmm pepperman greatidea. so i should get the 4870 right? Also will i have a good chance if i get the triple core and unlock the 4th core with that processor?
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September 11, 2010 2:39:10 AM

I don't know what the percent chance of unlocking any given cpu is, but if you can't and/or its not stable, you still have a fast triple core which you can OC.

The 4870 is the better performer of the two, but the 5770 uses less power. It all depends on who pays the electric bill ;) 
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September 11, 2010 2:42:17 AM

i am only 14 so the bills go to my parents lol. but uhm so should i go the triple core or quad which will be better?
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September 11, 2010 2:45:31 AM

Considering the $28 difference, along with the negligible performance increase, I recommend going with the triple core.
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September 11, 2010 2:55:28 AM

Hmm Thanks man and here is my final build tell me what you think about it? is it good? also is everything compatible with each other?

Mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case+HDD http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
GPU+PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU+DVD Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

So how is it good? also is everything compatible which is very important since i am ordering it now
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September 11, 2010 3:07:20 AM

Also last question will the 4870 last me for 1.5 years?
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September 11, 2010 3:09:01 AM

Quote:
Hmm Thanks man and here is my final build tell me what you think about it? is it good? also is everything compatible with each other?

Mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case+HDD http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
GPU+PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU+DVD Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

So how is it good? also is everything compatible which is very important since i am ordering it now

If it's build advice you're after then take it to the Systems forum.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum-31.html
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September 11, 2010 3:09:22 AM

Considering the AsRock board won't do CF very well anyway (second slot is only x4) I recommend getting a more quality board (it is a micro, though) from Asus. Combo'd with the cpu:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Here's the same case with a different ODD (most burners are about the same from company to company so it doesn't matter which one you get).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

You can get the same HDD with $15 off through this promo: WDHD910
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Here is cheaper ram (lower voltage, but lower speed-this won't come into play until you OC):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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September 11, 2010 3:24:45 AM

wait thats a great suggestion but does it unlock the 4th core it doesnt look like it says that...
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September 11, 2010 3:38:31 AM

The Asus board does have ACC (it does support core unlocking).
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September 11, 2010 3:52:12 AM

oh it is sorry didnt see so here is the final build

HDD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cd/Dvd+Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
GPU+PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU+Mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

So is this the best it can get? am i ready to order it? because i am about to order it


So is everything compatible and will the GPu last me for 1.5 years?

I am taking your word for it since you helped a lot.
SO is everything compatible and should i order it now?
will it be a strong build?
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September 11, 2010 3:58:14 AM

It will work for 1.5 years surely, but it won't be playing any of the CURRENT or NEXT GEN games with much eye candy. I'd still recommend a 5770. even with the 5770 the max power you should need is 500w.

I'm not sure about your CPU, its decent and would be good if it can be unlocked... but if it stays stock its just decent, not really what I'd consider a gaming CPU
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September 11, 2010 3:58:38 AM

This topic has been moved from the section Graphics & Displays to section Systems by Mousemonkey
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September 11, 2010 4:16:51 AM

decode said:
It will work for 1.5 years surely, but it won't be playing any of the CURRENT or NEXT GEN games with much eye candy. I'd still recommend a 5770. even with the 5770 the max power you should need is 500w.

I'm not sure about your CPU, its decent and would be good if it can be unlocked... but if it stays stock its just decent, not really what I'd consider a gaming CPU



uhm so a quad core athlon II be good?
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September 11, 2010 4:28:10 AM

The extra core won't help you with gaming; most games take advantage of only a single core, some can use two. That leaves one core for system processes (considering a triple core system). The next thing to worry about is clock speed. At the price range of <$100, the triple core athlon is the best gaming cpu you can get right now.

For the question of longevity, we need to know what resolution you play at, and what kind of games you play.
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September 11, 2010 4:32:42 AM

i play games such as modern warfare 2, , WOW, and Bad company 2. Nothing more then that... and at 1600x1050. Althought i can play at 1900x1200 on my minitor but i will keep that for the low graphic requiring games such as free MMORPG's... But yea those kinds of games for that which be better 5770 or 4870?
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September 11, 2010 5:01:37 AM

You're looking at about 3-6% advantage to the 4870 in terms of raw performance, but either card will work fine for the 1680x1050 resolution.
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September 11, 2010 5:04:05 AM

hmm peppermen you have been a lot of help. i really appreciate that i wanna say thanks. So the build that i posted if i order it now. will it be worth it? i will take ur advice and use the ram u suggested and go with the build. Should i order it now and is everything compatible? thanks this is the last step.
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September 11, 2010 5:08:13 AM

Everything is compatible, and its the best you can do for the money.
You have everything you need except the basic peripherals (i.e. keyboard, monitor, etc.) and an OS.
Good luck with your build, and if have any more questions, you know where to ask.
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September 11, 2010 5:14:44 AM

hmm okay i am about to order it last question i can get the quad core. since i save money by getting 4870 so should i just stick to triple core and tru to unlock or shoot for a quad?
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September 11, 2010 5:20:58 AM

Its up to you; its your money. Personnally I think you'd get better performance if you get the triple core along with this heatsink/fan and OC (please read several guides before attempting to OC; you can potentially permanently damage your hardware if you aren't careful).

Edit: fixed link
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September 11, 2010 5:25:15 AM

hmm well okay sounds good. thanks again man really helpful. And instead of the heatsink should i spend the money on a better thermal paste and electric static wrist wrap are those worth it. since i wont be doing some extreme overclockings?
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September 11, 2010 5:29:23 AM

You don't really need the anti-static wriststrap; just be careful and use common sense (i.e. ground yourself before you start touching things, and don't stand on carpet while working on it).

As for the thermal paste: usually the stock thermal paste that comes with/on the heatsink is good enough even for mid to high-level OCing. If you don't think you'll need the better heatsink, just keep the money and save it for a future build/upgrade.
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September 11, 2010 5:50:12 AM

Its the best one could get for the price you paid; it should fit your requirements, and it will likely be relevant for gaming for a while to come. I hope you enjoy your new system!
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September 11, 2010 5:54:53 AM

pepperman thanks a lot. i am beginner this was my first build ever and you helped me. you took your time to help me means a lot. thanks again! Just One Last Question since i got a directx 10.1 card should i use XP for gaming or Windows 7? which will get me more FPs in games?
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September 11, 2010 5:59:32 AM

Any time, that's what we're here for.

You might as well go with Windows 7: new games might be released only for the newer OS, and Windows 7 gives you more efficient multi-core utilization than Windows XP.
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September 11, 2010 6:09:34 AM

thanks i will get win 7 64 bit then. thanks a lot. now i am may sleep at 2 here and do u know a good guide which teaches you how to assemble a PC?
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September 11, 2010 7:40:36 PM

hmm okay looks good thanks so should i do it myself or get a professional to do it?
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September 11, 2010 7:49:48 PM

If you don't feel comfortable building it yourself, I'm sure you can find someone to build it for you, but assembling the pc is a lot like doing a puzzle; all you have to is make sure you put every piece where it needs to go.
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September 11, 2010 10:30:59 PM

hmm i am confident about everything except how to put the processor, cables and LEd lights everything i know
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September 11, 2010 10:59:02 PM

ooh okay thanks altho i also wanted to know how to install the heatsink but i am guessing the guides on the web and the manual can help me with that.
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September 11, 2010 11:03:01 PM

If you read the guides, you should be fine.
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