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Phenom II x2 560 or Athlon II x4 640 for gaming?

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December 3, 2010 8:43:49 PM

I'll be using an AM2+ mobo for DDR2. I'm just wondering which of the two is better at gaming? Games like GTA IV,MMORPGs things like that. Thanks
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December 3, 2010 9:04:17 PM

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aint the 640 a AM3 processor?


it is as is the phenom II x 560, most open BIOS Am2+ mobos can run AM3 CPUs
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December 3, 2010 9:17:49 PM

Well my mobo is the m68m-s2p and yeah it support both. So it sounds like I should get the 640. If I upgrade the Mobo is it wise to OC the 640?
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December 3, 2010 9:24:04 PM

dubsanta said:
Well my mobo is the m68m-s2p and yeah it support both. So it sounds like I should get the 640. If I upgrade the Mobo is it wise to OC the 640?


you can OC if you want , athlon II run cool. I would personally go for the Phenom II but the two CPUs are so close and it really depends on the games you play.
December 3, 2010 9:29:46 PM

:/  I'd play more demanding games than anything else. I've got the EAH4850 512mb so it can play.. most demanding games on high/very high but my Athlon 5200+ 2.7 is bottlenecking the performance
December 4, 2010 4:14:18 AM

i am currently using a phenom2 550, all i have to say is that the athlon2 x3 440/450 is better than both in terms of bang for buck.. and all 3 of my friends who have it unlocked it succesfully to an x4. if u change ur mboard later there is a high chance u r getting a x4 out of it.
December 4, 2010 1:45:50 PM

I agree with Greghome
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December 4, 2010 11:09:09 PM

I also agree with greghome.The AM2+ Phenom II X4 940 BE is a great inexpensive powerful quad core CPU.I have one in one of my systems.Bang per buck it's one of the best right now for cost vs performance.
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December 5, 2010 12:25:42 AM

Athlon Hands down. Will beat the Phenom in anything that uses more than 2 cores.
December 5, 2010 1:46:24 AM

I'll have to up the Athlon, the extra two cores will perform better in GTA IV, Bad Company 2... and will also be quicker in general computer, alt tabbing etc
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December 5, 2010 1:59:11 AM

anacandor said:
I'll have to up the Athlon, the extra two cores will perform better in GTA IV, Bad Company 2... and will also be quicker in general computer, alt tabbing etc


incorrect. while the athlon II would perform better on GTA IV, on most games it would lose to the Phenom II including BFBC2

For those that were concerned about dual vs. quad-core CPU battle, here is a little more info...

The game appears to be using all four cores when available. Here we used a standard Core i7 920 processor running at 2.66GHz. Please note HyperThreading was disabled and a single Radeon HD 5850 graphics card was used. As you can see none of the cores are working very hard.

Here is the same Core i7 920 processor with two cores disabled as well as HyperThreading. As you can see neither core is maxed out, but the CPU utilization is much higher. So again, a decent dual core processor such as a Core 2 Duo E8xxx or Phenom II X2 should be enough to get the most out of your graphics card in this game. While it is quad-core optimized, the game is not demanding enough on the CPU to warrant it based on what I have seen so far.

http://www.techspot.com/article/255-battlefield-bad-com...
a little research before you post goes a long way into the difference between actual facts and incorrect opinions.
December 5, 2010 3:40:26 AM

ct1615 said:

a little research before you post goes a long way into the difference between actual facts and incorrect opinions.



Apologies to the OP for giving false information. I have read that article before but must have misread those paragraphs or for some reason thought that in BC2 clock speed correlated to amount of cores... my mistake ;) . Ct, can you find any other games that would benefit from having the Phenom over the Athlon? As the OP plays GTA IV, i still back the Athlon.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-cha...[3015]=on&prod[2612]=on

In GTA IV:
Athlon II x4 630 - 53.70 fps
Phenom II x2 550 - 41.00 fps
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December 5, 2010 5:05:00 AM

anacandor said:
Apologies to the OP for giving false information. I have read that article before but must have misread those paragraphs or for some reason thought that in BC2 clock speed correlated to amount of cores... my mistake ;) . Ct, can you find any other games that would benefit from having the Phenom over the Athlon? As the OP plays GTA IV, i still back the Athlon.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-cha...[3015]=on&prod[2612]=on

In GTA IV:
Athlon II x4 630 - 53.70 fps
Phenom II x2 550 - 41.00 fps


most games are still dual core optimized, plus the Phenom II have a L3 cache which the athlon II lack. although the extra cache may not be useful in all games. the athlon II x4 series will beat the the phenom II x2 series in GTA IV and Dragon Age. SC2, WoW, Fallout 3, Left 4 Dead, Far Cry 2, Crysis, Batman AA, Dawn of War II all have higher FPS with the Phenom II. the difference is anywhere from slight to noticeable.


http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/62
December 5, 2010 1:51:27 PM

Thanks guys!Looks like the phenom x2 is the better option? I will be playing GTA IV but not as much as most other games mentioned above so it looks like I'll go for that :)  Thanks guys!
December 5, 2010 6:59:08 PM

I would say go for the athlon2 x3 440 which costs lesser and gives upto/better than the phenom2 x2
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