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Xeon question about my dell 490

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Alright, I have a Dell 490 workstation with a xeon cpu, there is a place for a second cpu, but only one is installed. My question is, how can i figure out what is the fastest cpu this machine can use, im at 1.6ghz dual core xeon, being a xeon, does that make it perform better then a normal 1.6ghz cpu. My other pc has a amd 4800+ (2.4ghz) dual-core, which one is faster?

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A Xeon is equal to an equilavent dual core 1.6 chip (probably c2d or core duo).
Your 4800+ would be faster all other things being equal.
With that said if you add a second xeon (has to be the same spec chip) then you would have essentially a quad core 1.6 ghz machine which in a multithreaded application would outperform the 4800+ because you have two more cores.
You might need a Voltage Regulation Module also to add second chip.
Download CPU-Z and Everest Home edition (both freeware-google them) and they will tell you exact specs.
It would IMO be a worthwile upgrade.
I love dual processor workstations.
Check out 2cpu.com. That site specializes in duallie setups.

Reply to king smp

my friend came through, brought me over a 3ghz, replaced the 1.6, came right up, works great, these cpus are pricey little bastards. So im still dual core, but xeon, say 4mb cache, wonder what the cache is on my 4800, thanks for the help and quick response :D

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Multi-processor (MP) motherboards are often used in servers and by power users.
The most used MP motherboards are for two processors (dual CPUs).
Make sure the CPUs run at the same voltage.
Preferably, they have the same stepping code..


While a dual processor motherboard seems like it would make a system twice as fast as a standard computer, this is not the case.
Limitations on the processor’s access to the system bus and memory will often require one processor to wait while the other is active.
In addition, until recently, few programs were written to take advantage of a multiprocessor system. Most programs will access the main processor and never send anything to the second; it was often limited to operating system processes on all but the most powerful of programs.


With the advent of multicore processors, many of the drawbacks to a dual processor motherboard have gone away.
The process of allocating system resources has been changed to allow more even access, and there are more programs that will use a second processor.
In fact, many programs are now written to use multiple processors at the same time.

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Reply to malmental

I wouldnt know the cache on those chips off those chips.
I would have to Google the specs (hint-hint).
But the investment in a second Xeon especially as the prices hopefully drop (check ebay for used chips- i bought a pair of older Xeon Prestonia 3.2 HT for 20 US dollars shipped from a working pull with a 30 day return policy.
A Dual Xeon Dual Core 3.0ghz would be an impressive machine.
Throws 8gb ram,64-bit Windows 7 Ultimate if the chips support 64bit,ssd OS hard drive and a decent video card and you gotta a beast on your hands.

Reply to king smp

malmental wrote :

Multi-processor (MP) motherboards are often used in servers and by power users.
The most used MP motherboards are for two processors (dual CPUs).
Make sure the CPUs run at the same voltage.
Preferably, they have the same stepping code..


While a dual processor motherboard seems like it would make a system twice as fast as a standard computer, this is not the case.
Limitations on the processor’s access to the system bus and memory will often require one processor to wait while the other is active.
In addition, until recently, few programs were written to take advantage of a multiprocessor system. Most programs will access the main processor and never send anything to the second; it was often limited to operating system processes on all but the most powerful of programs.


With the advent of multicore processors, many of the drawbacks to a dual processor motherboard have gone away.
The process of allocating system resources has been changed to allow more even access, and there are more programs that will use a second processor.
In fact, many programs are now written to use multiple processors at the same time.



I use Moo system monitor for cpu usage for my two physical cores with HT and I get to see overall cpu usage and individual core usage which shows 4 cores due to the Hyper Threading.
More and more of the freeware programs are pulling hard on all four logical cores.
Of course Photoshop CS,encoder/ripper/converters like Handbrake,Format Factory,Dvd Flick,Avidemux etc plus stream recorders like TuneBite will all use the four cores.
Also newer video games like I believe Far Cry 2 and maybe Crysis Warhead will use 4 cores.
I think more cores the better.
Of course nowadays a new quadcore on one die will be more efficient than an older dual dual-core.

Reply to king smp

Intel Xeon 5000 Series Data-Sheet Volume 1


1. CPUs must have the same QPI and RAM speed to work together.
2. CPUs must have the same thermal profile (TDP) to work together.
3. The CPUs must have the same number of physical cores to work together.
4. The CPUs must have the same number of logical cores to work together.
5. Stepping does not matter.
6. Clock speed does not matter.


If all of those are met, then you can run the CPUs together. The CPUs run at the speed of the slowest CPU. The current mix and match list:


1. Xeon E5502- can only work with another E5502 since it's the only dual-core Xeon 5500 (#4.)
2. Xeon E5504 can work with the E5506, both CPUs run at 2.00 GHz.
3. Xeon E5520 can work with the E5530 or E5540, both CPUs run at 2.26 GHz in either case.
4. Xeon E5530 can work with the E5520 (CPUs run at 2.26 GHz) or E5540 (CPUs run at 2.40 GHz)
5. Xeon X5550 can work with the X5560 or X5570, both CPUs run at 2.67 GHz in either case.
6. Xeon X5560 can work with the X5550 (CPUs run at 2.67 GHz) or X5570 (CPUs run at 2.80 GHz)
7. Xeon W5580 can work with the W5590, both CPUs run at 3.20 GHz)
8. Xeon L5506- can only work with other L5506s since it's the only L-series Xeon 5500 without Hyper-Threading.
9. Xeon L5518 can work with the L5520 or L5530, both CPUs run at 2.13 GHz in either case.
10. Xeon L5520 can work with the L5518 (CPUs run at 2.13 GHz) or L5530 (CPUs run at 2.26 GHz.)
11. Xeon L5508- can only work with other L5508s since it's the only 38-watt TDP Xeon 5500.

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Reply to malmental

I borrowed parts from my amd machine. The stats for this dell are now one 3ghz dualcore xeon cpu, 4gig of ram, 4 gig more of ram on the way, 64 gig pny solid state h.d., and a geforce bfg 260 video, 900mb of video ram, its awesome, prices will have to drop before ill add another cpu. thanks for all the help and happy holidays

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Niiiiice!!!
I hate you in a good way LOL
Enjoy.
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you and your family.

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