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Why is the i7-940 MORE than the 950?

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December 5, 2010 11:41:10 PM

Why does the i7 940 cost $250 more than the 950? Shouldnt they be in order of power and price? So the 950 should cost more? Another exmple, the i7 975 costs the same as the 980x??

Why is this?

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December 6, 2010 1:10:11 AM

The 940 is higher primarily due to the fact that its a highly unlockable CPU. In other words, the 940 has a common OC around 4.2-4.4 Ghz without seriously pushing it. The 950 will be really pushing itself around 4.0Ghz. The exact same thing between the 975 and the Extreme.

Hope this helps
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December 6, 2010 1:25:08 AM

FSUMack86 said:
The 940 is higher primarily due to the fact that its a highly unlockable CPU. In other words, the 940 has a common OC around 4.2-4.4 Ghz without seriously pushing it. The 950 will be really pushing itself around 4.0Ghz. The exact same thing between the 975 and the Extreme.

Hope this helps

That's bogus. The 950 is a newer stepping and has a higher base clock - the 940 is older. The 950 will quite consistently out-overclock the 940.
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December 6, 2010 1:28:31 AM

FSUMack86 said:
The 940 is higher primarily due to the fact that its a highly unlockable CPU. In other words, the 940 has a common OC around 4.2-4.4 Ghz without seriously pushing it. The 950 will be really pushing itself around 4.0Ghz. The exact same thing between the 975 and the Extreme.

Hope this helps

No this is not correct.
The i7 950 also used to cost 250 dollars more, for the extra clock speed.
All chips are identical except for clock speed , multipliers needed to get that clock speed.
The i7 930 line of cpu's are about to be superceded with Sandy Bridge(debatable) what series replaces what series. edited
The i7 950 was lowered to deplete stock, the new cpu's are going to better and faster.
Just noticed the i7 930 is not in stock at newegg.
On this list the i7 970 is a 6 core cpu with different specifications.
The 980 is not there, because its Extreme Edition cpu with unlocked multi
http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollection.aspx?series=3716...
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December 6, 2010 1:33:38 AM

This kind of stuff usually happens when one chip is outdated and not made anymore since the newer chip is very similar, but more modern. The quantity in stock usually drive the newer chip below costs since all these companies are price matching.

At the end of the day, who really cares? Don't say anything and just get the better one incase the store made a mistake :D 
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December 6, 2010 1:54:03 AM

To Notty22 and Cjl, you guys seriously need to do more research on your intel CPU's. I have built an ungodly amount of rigs for clients and have OC pretty much every intel CPU out there. I know what they can and cant do. The same issue is said about the Asus Mobos between the Rampage 2 and 3 extreme, same price for both, but i doubt you know why the Rampage 2 is still around the $350 range.


Im trying to help this guy out not start a war

See ya later
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December 6, 2010 1:55:18 AM

cjl said:
That's bogus. The 950 is a newer stepping and has a higher base clock - the 940 is older. The 950 will quite consistently out-overclock the 940.


So then why does the 940 cost more than the 950?
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December 6, 2010 1:57:10 AM

notty22 said:
No this is not correct.
The i7 950 also used to cost 250 dollars more, for the extra clock speed.
All chips are identical except for clock speed , multipliers needed to get that clock speed.
The i7 930 line of cpu's are about to be superceded with Sandy Bridge(debatable) what series replaces what series. edited
The i7 950 was lowered to deplete stock, the new cpu's are going to better and faster.
Just noticed the i7 930 is not in stock at newegg.
On this list the i7 970 is a 6 core cpu with different specifications.
The 980 is not there, because its Extreme Edition cpu with unlocked multi
http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollection.aspx?series=3716...



so then why is the 940 more than the 950?
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December 6, 2010 4:15:05 AM

FSUMack86 said:
To Notty22 and Cjl, you guys seriously need to do more research on your intel CPU's. I have built an ungodly amount of rigs for clients and have OC pretty much every intel CPU out there. I know what they can and cant do. The same issue is said about the Asus Mobos between the Rampage 2 and 3 extreme, same price for both, but i doubt you know why the Rampage 2 is still around the $350 range.


Im trying to help this guy out not start a war

See ya later

Nope. You need to do your research. The i7-940 was one of the launch models of the i7 series, and was only ever available in C0 stepping. D0 stepping, which was a HUGE benefit to overclocking, was available in the i7-950 and i7-960, and as a result, the 950 and 960 overclock significantly better than the 940 ever did.

To put it another way, here's a list of the people on Xtreme Systems who have a rock solid stable, LinX tested 4.5GHz overclock on their CPU:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=23...

Why is it that there isn't a single i7-940 on that list, but there are many i7-950s?
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December 6, 2010 4:26:31 AM

yutubemedia said:
so then why is the 940 more than the 950?

Because it is discontinued.

The i7-940 was discontinued before the price drop, and it was replaced by the i7-950 at the same price point (~$500). Then, the i7-960 replaced the 950 at that same price point, causing the 950 to fall to its current price.

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December 6, 2010 4:31:48 AM

cjl said:
Because it is discontinued.

The i7-940 was discontinued before the price drop, and it was replaced by the i7-950 at the same price point (~$500). Then, the i7-960 replaced the 950 at that same price point, causing the 950 to fall to its current price.


I see, so i7 950 is all OLD stock left over, the 960 is the newest of that series/number area, if you see what i mean?
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December 6, 2010 4:52:23 AM

The 950 is still under production (even at $300, it's still profitable), but the 960 is the newest in that line, yes.
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December 6, 2010 5:14:13 AM

cjl said:
The 950 is still under production (even at $300, it's still profitable), but the 960 is the newest in that line, yes.


okay i see. I cant wait till the sandy bridge chips some out! Hopefully their top chip isnt more than the 980X is now...$999. What ever it is, its gonna be a beast
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December 6, 2010 9:09:05 AM

expect the TOP sandy bridge to be the same price as the C2QX, about £1,200 or $1,880 and 68 cent if my maths is correct :) 

but most new chips are like that, just give it a while and they will drop :) 
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December 6, 2010 3:35:25 PM

Simply put, supply and demand.
More people are buying the 950 for the reasons expressed in this thread so the price has dropped because of that.
Less people are buying the 940 also because of reasons expressed in the thread so the price has held steady and probably wont drop.
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December 6, 2010 7:17:54 PM

CsG_kieran_2 said:
expect the TOP sandy bridge to be the same price as the C2QX, about £1,200 or $1,880 and 68 cent if my maths is correct :) 

but most new chips are like that, just give it a while and they will drop :) 

The top one that will launch in the spring will probably be $500, tops. This is because the high end socket won't launch until next summer. When the new high end socket launches, that's when the new sandy bridge chips at the $1000 price point will arrive (probably closer to $1k than $2k as well).
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December 6, 2010 9:19:09 PM

FSUMack86 said:
To Notty22 and Cjl, you guys seriously need to do more research on your intel CPU's. I have built an ungodly amount of rigs for clients and have OC pretty much every intel CPU out there. I know what they can and cant do. The same issue is said about the Asus Mobos between the Rampage 2 and 3 extreme, same price for both, but i doubt you know why the Rampage 2 is still around the $350 range.


Im trying to help this guy out not start a war

See ya later


:pfff: 

You do know some of these guys on this forum actually do the same stuff you do but been doing it for many, many many years (say over 20 years). They know what there talking about and seen plenty of overclocked cpu's them self. So saying that you build x amount of rigs and overclocked y amount of intel cpu's really doesn't hold much off a footing here.

And yes Notty and Cjl are right. The 940 cant be overclocked as high as the other cpu's that are on the D0 stepping due to it was on a C0 stepping. Heat and voltage are the factors.

This was covered by many tech sites, forums, users of both of these cpu's, ect. Just to name a few tech sites:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/i7-c0-d0,2386.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3521

We've done out homework, can you show yours? :heink: 
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