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August 6, 2010 1:23:53 PM

Hello,i am going to get a few new parts for my pc so i have trouble choosing a video card the trouble is

Does the XFX Ati radeon 5770HD 1GB? perform same as the GTX260?


the system i am building is


intel core i7 930 2.8ghz

Corsair Dominator 3X2GB 1600mhz memory tri channel whit the i7

INTEL ATX X58 LGA1366 FSB1600 DDR3 RAID

Coolermaster 620W PSU

and i cant decide the gtx 260 or the xfx hd 5770? no idea how they perform if compared,if any one could help me decide i would be thankfull.

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a b U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 2:05:35 PM

HD 5770. Compared to the GTX260, consumes less power, produces lot less heat and has DX11 and Eyefinity.

And why did you decide putting a mid-range card on a high end Core i7 platform? What will you use the computer for?
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August 6, 2010 2:34:56 PM

unknown_13 said:
HD 5770. Compared to the GTX260, consumes less power, produces lot less heat and has DX11 and Eyefinity.

And why did you decide putting a mid-range card on a high end Core i7 platform? What will you use the computer for?



well the GTX 260 core 216 was good in 2008 also i heard it still performs very good thease days,well for me the gtx 260 is good becouse i never had it.

I would definetally go for a XFX 5970 if i had the cash if u compare our country money to yours by dollars you would fall out off your chair the 5970 costs like 3X i7s or even more also i would get a 5870 but that one costs alot,becouse when i buy the i7 the rams the mobo i will have no money left thats why but in the future i might get a 950w power supply and another gtx 260 so i will sli them but for now single gtx 260 is good at the moment.

i am building this pc for gaming mostly for me is gaming internet etc,for my mother well internet skype talks thats all.

and are you sure the hd5770 perfroms same as GTX260? or it performs slower? dont worry to say it performs slower i can still buy the gtx260 becouse if i bought the hd5770 i would have spare cash left.
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a b U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 3:04:49 PM

Well for gaming it will be better to have a i5-760 coupled with a nice HD 5850 than i7 and HD 5770.
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August 6, 2010 3:10:44 PM

and why a gtx 260 why not a gtx 460?
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a c 376 U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 3:14:38 PM

Good question. Your two choices should be between the HD5770 and GTX 460 depending on how much you want to spend.
There is no reason to consider the GTX 260 at this point unless you are finding a great deal on one used or something.
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August 6, 2010 3:18:54 PM

unknown_13 said:
Well for gaming it will be better to have a i5-760 coupled with a nice HD 5850 than i7 and HD 5770.

i dont like the i5 it dosent have hyperthreathing or whatever its called,also it dosent have Triple channel memory support which i am going to use the 3X2GB ones.
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August 6, 2010 3:20:30 PM

gordon_81 said:
and why a gtx 260 why not a gtx 460?


dude GTX 460 costs very very much in my country,althrought i can get a gtx 460 but i will have no cash left for the i7 and memory and the mobo.
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August 6, 2010 3:21:09 PM

but hyperthreading does not help with gaming, it helps with multi tasking
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August 6, 2010 3:22:13 PM

if i was you i would go with the i5 760 and a gtx 460
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August 6, 2010 3:23:07 PM

jyjjy said:
Good question. Your two choices should be between the HD5770 and GTX 460 depending on how much you want to spend.
There is no reason to consider the GTX 260 at this point unless you are finding a great deal on one used or something.

i dont buy used stuff mate ;) 

the gtx 260 dosent cost alot,and 1 more thing if i get a GTX 460 whit those parts i will fry my psu lmao,u can read the psu i posted its 620w so its enuf for 2 HD5770 but not 2 gtx260s or one 460.

all i need to know IS the HD5770 SAME SPEED SAME PERFORMANCE Like the GTX260? or not thats all.
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August 6, 2010 3:23:43 PM

gordon_81 said:
if i was you i would go with the i5 760 and a gtx 460


yes and no cash left for the mobo or the memory
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August 6, 2010 3:25:31 PM

unknown_13 said:
Well for gaming it will be better to have a i5-760 coupled with a nice HD 5850 than i7 and HD 5770.

crossfire whit the 5850 and a 5770? i think u cant u need to have the same videocards i dont really know for the crossfire, but for SLI u need to have same ones but the brands dosent matter.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 4:40:42 PM

fan said:
all i need to know IS the HD5770 SAME SPEED SAME PERFORMANCE Like the GTX260? or not thats all.

Their overall performance is exactly the same;

The HD5770 also gives you DX11, more advanced audio/video playback features and uses much less power, especially at idle.
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August 6, 2010 4:44:37 PM

jyjjy said:
Their overall performance is exactly the same;
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Axle/GeForce_GTX_460_768_MB/images/perfrel.gif
The HD5770 also gives you DX11, more advanced audio/video playback features and uses much less power, especially at idle.

thank you jyjjy that helped me alot,but i talked to a guy that deals whit 15000$ computers he said most games are optimized 99% for NVIDIA Gpus is it true?
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a b U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 4:48:01 PM

fan said:
crossfire whit the 5850 and a 5770? i think u cant u need to have the same videocards i dont really know for the crossfire, but for SLI u need to have same ones but the brands dosent matter.


Look, tripple channel and hyperthreading DON'T help alot in gaming, why would you waste money on an unbalanced gaming machine??

Get the i5-760 and a HD5850/GTX460 1GB, you WON'T be disappointed!
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a b U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 4:48:30 PM

fan said:
thank you jyjjy that helped me alot,but i talked to a guy that deals whit 15000$ computers he said most games are optimized 99% for NVIDIA Gpus is it true?


70% is more like it.
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August 6, 2010 4:50:39 PM

unknown_13 said:
70% is more like it.

lol the 5770 has 128 bus width i think its low the gtx260 has 444 or something which is high,and does the gtx260 take alot of power at full load?
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a b U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 4:54:24 PM

fan said:
lol the 5770 has 128 bus width i think its low the gtx260 has 444 or something which is high,and does the gtx260 take alot of power at full load?


Why the heck do you want to go GTX260?? To compense the lost of performance due to the 128-bit bus, there's the DDR5 VRAM. And the 5770 uses less power than the 260 and producing lot less heat due to 40nm process.
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August 6, 2010 4:57:02 PM

unknown_13 said:
Why the heck do you want to go GTX260?? To compense the lost of performance due to the 128-bit bus, there's the DDR5 VRAM. And the 5770 uses less power than the 260 and producing lot less heat due to 40nm process.

ill think about it
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a b U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 4:59:43 PM

fan said:
ill think about it


And will you think about getting a i5-760 with HD5850/GTX460 1GB instead? :D 
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August 6, 2010 5:07:06 PM

unknown_13 said:
And will you think about getting a i5-760 with HD5850/GTX460 1GB instead? :D 


Dude i can GET i5-760 and a gtx 5850 or 460 BUT my power supply wont hold any of those cards.

and second i wont get i5 cuz it dosent support tri channel which sucks i cant belive intel didnt make it tri channel.

and if i get those both things i cant get the motherboard and the memory you understand now? :D 


i will have no money left!! i live in a different country and its different money here,not USD but if i move to usd i could buy all of em cuz if if i exchange my money to USD and if i move to America it will be more than enought i think i could even buy watercooling but only in usd not Lithuania
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a c 376 U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 5:23:13 PM

fan said:
thank you jyjjy that helped me alot,but i talked to a guy that deals whit 15000$ computers he said most games are optimized 99% for NVIDIA Gpus is it true?

It is nowhere near 90% bias or even the 70% unknown suggests. If I had to estimate it's probably around 10-15%
Here is the article that chart I showed you earlier is based on;
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Axle/GeForce_GTX_460...
It is a review of the GTX 460 but all the benchmarks have numbers for the HD5770 and GTX 260.
The chart is based on actual benchmarks from a very wide variety of games both new and old. So any Nvidia bias is already incorporated into that summary chart. For examples of it check out the benchmarks for FarCry 1 & 2.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 5:26:05 PM

fan said:
Dude i can GET i5-760 and a gtx 5850 or 460 BUT my power supply wont hold any of those cards.

The GTX 260 uses notably more power than either of the HD5850 or GTX 460. You can check out the power usage of the cards in that article I just linked. That said your PSU should be alright for any of these cards.
In terms of your conversation with this guy he is correct. For gaming on a limited budget an i5 + a better card will give you better performance than i7 + weaker card. Getting 4gb of memory would just give you more money to spend on a better card. Is there anything you plan on doing with your computer that can effectively utilize more than 4gb of memory or the hyperthreading abilities of the i7?
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a b U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 5:31:10 PM

fan said:
Dude i can GET i5-760 and a gtx 5850 or 460 BUT my power supply wont hold any of those cards.

and second i wont get i5 cuz it dosent support tri channel which sucks i cant belive intel didnt make it tri channel.

and if i get those both things i cant get the motherboard and the memory you understand now? :D 


i will have no money left!! i live in a different country and its different money here,not USD but if i move to usd i could buy all of em cuz if if i exchange my money to USD and if i move to America it will be more than enought i think i could even buy watercooling but only in usd not Lithuania



LOL dude wait... first, you won't buy both the X58 and P55 mobo's and both dual and tripple-channel DDR3 RAM. Second, tripple channel DOESN'T make difference in games, the fps would probably be like 50-60 or more, so 1-2 frames will make a difference??? Not at all.:) 

Or have you already bought the X58 mobo and i7 DDR3???
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August 6, 2010 5:55:16 PM

unknown_13 said:
LOL dude wait... first, you won't buy both the X58 and P55 mobo's and both dual and tripple-channel DDR3 RAM. Second, tripple channel DOESN'T make difference in games, the fps would probably be like 50-60 or more, so 1-2 frames will make a difference??? Not at all.:) 

Or have you already bought the X58 mobo and i7 DDR3???



no no i dont care about the fps now, i will buy the 6gb triple channel memory so if i use on i5 it wont work cuz the i5 wont support it,i dont care about fps now lol.

no i didnt buy the i7 i dont have the money to buy that now i will buy the hd5770 or the 260gtx,and the i7 on december 26 or 28 probably this year,after that ill save for my memory and the mobo wont take long.

i would go for evga x58 but my country dosent sell those yet lol,only found the intel one which is good for the i7.
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August 6, 2010 6:01:34 PM

jyjjy said:
The GTX 260 uses notably more power than either of the HD5850 or GTX 460. You can check out the power usage of the cards in that article I just linked. That said your PSU should be alright for any of these cards.
In terms of your conversation with this guy he is correct. For gaming on a limited budget an i5 + a better card will give you better performance than i7 + weaker card. Getting 4gb of memory would just give you more money to spend on a better card. Is there anything you plan on doing with your computer that can effectively utilize more than 4gb of memory or the hyperthreading abilities of the i7?


yes i woud get a 4gb corsair dominator but the problem is the stupid country dosent sell those things LOL!

only sells dominator corsair 3X1GB 1800mhz but i need 4gb so it dosent sell i choose the 6gb tri channel one and also it dosent cost alot more only like 99$ more for the 6gb one than the 3gb one i dont care about fps now.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 6:02:21 PM

If you aren't buying this stuff until the end of the year than it is too early to be picking out a video card. By then ATI will supposedly have released their next series of cards, Nvidia will release a few more GF104 based cards and in general even the prices of the cards that around now could be quite different.
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August 6, 2010 6:02:45 PM

jyjjy said:
It is nowhere near 90% bias or even the 70% unknown suggests. If I had to estimate it's probably around 10-15%
Here is the article that chart I showed you earlier is based on;
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Axle/GeForce_GTX_460...
It is a review of the GTX 460 but all the benchmarks have numbers for the HD5770 and GTX 260.
The chart is based on actual benchmarks from a very wide variety of games both new and old. So any Nvidia bias is already incorporated into that summary chart. For examples of it check out the benchmarks for FarCry 1 & 2.


hey thanks for the website has really good info about the gpus i will check it later.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 6:04:25 PM

fan said:
yes i woud get a 4gb corsair dominator but the problem is the stupid country dosent sell those things LOL!

only sells dominator corsair 3X1GB 1800mhz but i need 4gb so it dosent sell i choose the 6gb tri channel one and also it dosent cost alot more only like 99$ more for the 6gb one than the 3gb one i dont care about fps now.

Have you considered using Ebay? Even with shipping the prices may end up being better and the selection will certainly be so from what you are saying.
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August 6, 2010 6:05:17 PM

jyjjy said:
If you aren't buying this stuff until the end of the year than it is too early to be picking out a video card. By then ATI will supposedly have released their next series of cards, Nvidia will release a few more GF104 based cards and in general even the prices of the cards that around now could be quite different.



i am using a 9800gt whit q9400 cpu but im sick of the 9800gt,well ofcorse i could get the i7 and the mobo instead of the gpu and i could just save the money for gpu later whit the memory in 2011. but i want to get a card now so i will have atleast something to do whit the new gpu whit the q9400 until i save cash to get those 2 more parts so i can take the card out of this pc put on the intel motherboard whit the cpu and the memory and im done.


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August 6, 2010 6:06:38 PM

ati will release 6000 series card in this year or the 2011 and nvidia alredy realeased the gtx 400 series so i think only ati is left to release 6000 if im right?
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a c 376 U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 6:07:21 PM

Oh, I thought you were buying all of it at the end of the year. When picking out a card one of the most important factors is your monitors native resolution so tell us that.
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August 6, 2010 6:08:01 PM

jyjjy said:
It is nowhere near 90% bias or even the 70% unknown suggests. If I had to estimate it's probably around 10-15%
Here is the article that chart I showed you earlier is based on;
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Axle/GeForce_GTX_460...
It is a review of the GTX 460 but all the benchmarks have numbers for the HD5770 and GTX 260.
The chart is based on actual benchmarks from a very wide variety of games both new and old. So any Nvidia bias is already incorporated into that summary chart. For examples of it check out the benchmarks for FarCry 1 & 2.



and omfg i just checked metro 2033 game that thing cant be maxed out normally even whit the high end cards but the recommended one is gtx 260 or higher.
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August 6, 2010 6:10:02 PM

jyjjy said:
Oh, I thought you were buying all of it at the end of the year. When picking out a card one of the most important factors is your monitors native resolution so tell us that.



i am going to buy A video card and the intel i7 end of this year so in 2011 first month i will start saving for my motherboard and then the corsair memory so u got this now.


my monitor resulotion is 1280x1024 probably wont change the monitor until 2013 the resulotion is enought for me for now until i get more money in 2013 then i will get a little higher resulotion ones dosent cost much thought.
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a b U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 6:11:57 PM

If you're buying the cpu in december, then wait. ATI will release their new series by then.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 6:12:25 PM

fan said:
ati will release 6000 series card in this year or the 2011 and nvidia alredy realeased the gtx 400 series so i think only ati is left to release 6000 if im right?

Nvidia has yet to release all the cards of the GTX 400 series. For example the GTX 460 was only released very recently and there are probably a few more cards based on the GF104 to come. There will like be a GTX 475 which will be a GTX 460 with another block of shaders enabled and higher stock clocks as well as a GTX(or GTS) 450 which will have another shader block disabled. And then there will probably be a dual GPU GTX 495 that will essentially be two GTX 460s on one card similar to the GTX 295 from the last generation.
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August 6, 2010 6:14:16 PM

unknown_13 said:
If you're buying the cpu in december, then wait. ATI will release their new series by then.



yeh and it will cost more than the GTX 460 which i can afford but i wont have any cash left for other parts. also the gtx 460 will drop a little but i wont buy the 6000series it will cost alot
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a c 376 U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 6:15:49 PM

fan said:
and omfg i just checked metro 2033 game that thing cant be maxed out normally even whit the high end cards but the recommended one is gtx 260 or higher.

Yes, Metro 2033 has replaced Crysis as the most intensive game around. When fully maxed out it can make even much higher end cards than we are talking about cry for their mommy. Like most games though if you are just willing to turn down AA and turn a few of the more graphically intensive effects off then it still looks good and is highly playable.
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August 6, 2010 6:19:11 PM

jyjjy said:
Yes, Metro 2033 has replaced Crysis as the most intensive game around. When fully maxed out it can make even much higher end cards than we are talking about cry for their mommy. Like most games though if you are just willing to turn down AA and turn a few of the more graphically intensive effects off then it still looks good and is highly playable.



yeh i once tried to run it whit this 9800gt lagged as hell unless i turn off the shadows to medium or low,also i needed to turn off other stuff. but whit this video card other games like CSS runs 56fps maxed out whit Vsync 16X anti aliasing and my monitor resulotion,will it reach atleast 100 fps for CSS maxed out whit the Radeon HD5770?
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August 6, 2010 6:20:49 PM

lol and what the hell in call of duty 4 the gtx260 is a little bit faster than the 5770 whit 1280x1024 maxed out,but on lower res and no aa enabled the 5770 is faster?
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a b U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 6:21:34 PM

fan said:
yeh i once tried to run it whit this 9800gt lagged as hell unless i turn off the shadows to medium or low,also i needed to turn off other stuff. but whit this video card other games like CSS runs 56fps maxed out whit Vsync 16X anti aliasing and my monitor resulotion,will it reach atleast 100 fps for CSS maxed out whit the Radeon HD5770?


DUUUDE. I have been playing CSS on high on a gf6600gt. It a Source engine game. Of course you won't encounter lags.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 6:21:35 PM

fan said:
yeh and it will cost more than the GTX 460 which i can afford but i wont have any cash left for other parts. also the gtx 460 will drop a little but i wont buy the 6000series it will cost alot

Unless ATI makes a mistake the HD6000 series cards will surely be appropriately priced for their performance which will cover the full range from low to high.
If you really want an video card upgrade now though then don't bother waiting. There will always be a new bunch of cards hovering somewhere in the not too distant future and if you are the one to put things off you will be waiting forever.
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August 6, 2010 6:22:08 PM

jyjjy said:
Yes, Metro 2033 has replaced Crysis as the most intensive game around. When fully maxed out it can make even much higher end cards than we are talking about cry for their mommy. Like most games though if you are just willing to turn down AA and turn a few of the more graphically intensive effects off then it still looks good and is highly playable.


AA dosent take alot fps away, Vsync takes alot fps away in CSS i lose 150+ fps if i turn on Vsync whitout vsync i get like 224 to 250 fps whit vsync like i said 53 to 56
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a b U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 6:23:07 PM

jyjjy said:
Unless ATI makes a mistake the HD6000 series cards will surely be appropriately priced for their performance which will cover the full range from low to high.
If you really want an video card upgrade now though then don't bother waiting. There will always be a new bunch of cards hovering somewhere in the not too distant future and if you are the one to put things off you will be waiting forever.


I think the prices for the HD 6800 will be high though because ATI won't have any competition from Nvidia unless GTX495 rools out sooner than expected.
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a b U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 6:24:09 PM

fan said:
AA dosent take alot fps away, Vsync takes alot fps away in CSS i lose 150+ fps if i turn on Vsync whitout vsync i get like 224 to 250 fps whit vsync like i said 53 to 56


Anything above 50fps is extremely playable, so i don't get it why would you want 200+ fps? Or there is some catch?:D 
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August 6, 2010 6:24:38 PM

jyjjy said:
Unless ATI makes a mistake the HD6000 series cards will surely be appropriately priced for their performance which will cover the full range from low to high.
If you really want an video card upgrade now though then don't bother waiting. There will always be a new bunch of cards hovering somewhere in the not too distant future and if you are the one to put things off you will be waiting forever.



if i get the gtx260 i will see how much fps i get on metro 2033 maxed out whit AA and Vsync all high whit my monitor res if i get it playeble i will play whit maxed out if i lagg a bit i will turn off Vsync and im sure i will be fine,wait ill go check how much fps i get whit 5770vs260gtx in metro.
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August 6, 2010 6:26:01 PM

unknown_13 said:
Anything above 50fps is extremely playable, so i don't get it why would you want 200+ fps? Or there is some catch?:D 



i want like 65+ fps but the thing i said about 250 fps is only on CSS whitout Vsync everything maxed out just whitout Vsync so im hoping ill get 65+ fps maxed out css whit the radeon or the 260gtx or even more fps since 260gtx eats 9800gt like a piece of candy
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a b U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 6:27:05 PM

fan said:
if i get the gtx260 i will see how much fps i get on metro 2033 maxed out whit AA and Vsync all high whit my monitor res if i get it playeble i will play whit maxed out if i lagg a bit i will turn off Vsync and im sure i will be fine,wait ill go check how much fps i get whit 5770vs260gtx in metro.


I think there is no difference at all.
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a b U Graphics card
August 6, 2010 6:27:49 PM

fan said:
i want like 65+ fps but the thing i said about 250 fps is only on CSS whitout Vsync everything maxed out just whitout Vsync so im hoping ill get 65+ fps maxed out css whit the radeon or the 260gtx or even more fps since 260gtx eats 9800gt like a piece of candy


So does HD 5770:D 
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