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September 14, 2010 7:44:35 PM


Mobo: Asus Crosshair IV Formula

CPU: AMD Phenom II 1090T X6 3.2Ghz 125W AM3 Black Edition Box

HDD: WD VelociRaptor 300GB SATA2

MEMORY: Mushkin RedLine PC3-12800 DDR3 1600 6GB 3x2GB CL6

SOUNDCARD: Auzentech Auzen X-Fi Forte 7.1 Low Profile PCI-E

CPU COOLER: Noctua NH-D14

CASE: Antec Twelve Hundred

MONITOR: Samsung 2233rz

PSU: Corsair AX850

GRAPHIC CARD: SAPPHIRE 5770 Vapor- X 1GB DDR5 OC




what you think of this combo, that would change and why?

New ideas are welcome, Thanks you.

Greetings

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September 14, 2010 7:45:55 PM

Petete said:
Mobo: Asus Crosshair IV Formula

CPU: AMD Phenom II 1090T X6 3.2Ghz 125W AM3 Black Edition Box

HDD: WD VelociRaptor 300GB SATA2

MEMORY: Mushkin RedLine PC3-12800 DDR3 1600 6GB 3x2GB CL6

SOUNDCARD: Auzentech Auzen X-Fi Forte 7.1 Low Profile PCI-E

CPU COOLER: Noctua NH-D14

CASE: Antec Twelve Hundred

MONITOR: Samsung 2233rz

PSU: Corsair AX850

GRAPHIC CARD: SAPPHIRE 5770 Vapor- X 1GB DDR5 OC ( maybe X2 crossfire in the future )




what you think of this combo, that would change and why?

New ideas are welcome, Thanks you.

Greetings

September 14, 2010 7:50:12 PM

I'd drop the soundcard (and then only add one later if you think the sound isn't good enough) - for most people, it's an unnecessary expense. Onboard sound is quite good these days.

Drop the Velociraptor and replace it with a 60-120 GB SSD (any of: OCZ Agility 2, Vertex 2, Mushkin Callisto, G.Skill Phoenix, Corsair Force) and a 500 GB or 1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 or Seagate 7200.12. Velociraptors aren't worth the price, as SSDs are far faster for boot/app drives, and many 7200 rpm drives can compete with the VRs on streaming reads.

Switch to a dual-channel RAM kit (2x2 GB), as 4 GB is all that's needed for gaming these days, and while it's not a huge deal, that triple-channel kit will only operate in single-channel mode on an AMD platform.

I'd get a monitor that's 1920x1080, and I'd upgrade the video card to at least a 5850, if not a 5870. The 5770 will be fine for a while at 1680x1050, but a) it won't be that great on a 1920x1080 monitor, and it is likely to start showing its age sooner than a more powerful graphics card.

If necessary, reduce the processor to a Phenom II X4 955 in order to fit in your budget.

More useful feedback might be had if you provided a budget, etc.
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September 14, 2010 7:54:38 PM

dont get velociraptor get samsung spintpoint f3 1tb and if u want something fast add an ssd ocz vertex ii 60gb or 120gb

amd dosnt use triple chanell... it uses doble chanel so get 4gb, i recomend g.skill ddr3 1600mhz cl7

case i dont like the twelve hundred but its ok...

monitor i recomend asus wv246h

psu its ok but its very expensive... if u want something good witha better price get xfx 850w black edition

for gaming the most important thig is the gpu so get an 5870

also ge that motherboard if ur going to use all its features (if u dont know what they are u will not use them...) u better get an asus m4a89gtd pro/usb3

and for the cpu u dont ned 6 cores... games can use 3 almost 4 so the 955 its good but if u have the money just get it
September 14, 2010 7:58:46 PM

The graphics card is a bit low but I dont need more, I play left 4 dead maybe i will set another 5770 to crossfire. In the matter of monitor I still play with CRT monitor and I need a minimum change to 100 hertz. ¿ which memory ram advised me?
Sorry for my english , im from spain.
September 14, 2010 8:02:50 PM

the truth is that I am a newbie in the matter of computer components, I have no idea: D, could you advise a powerful combo.
September 14, 2010 8:04:09 PM

ahh listo yo soy de argentina.. asi que te puedo esplicar mejor....

el crossfire de 5770 no es muy bueno... es mejor una 5870 que con eso jugas a todo lo que vos quieras en max settings, tambien no es encesario 100hz... ya 60fps es bastante fluido, tambien te recomiendo el monitor asus vw246h porque tiene 2ms de respuesta que es bueno... osea que tarda 2ms en aparecer la imagen, es 1920x1080 y es de 24 pulgadas

ram 4gb porque 6gb no andan con amd...

te recomiendo g.skill ddr3 1600mhz y cl7 (esto ultimo es lo ams importante)
September 14, 2010 8:07:10 PM

Muchas gracias juanchioo. Vaya paliza nos disteis en el monumental :D  XD teneis un equipazo, menos mal que se ha ido maradona ajaj. Podrias recomendarme un potente ordenador de AMD sin mirar el precio. Lo que tu pienses que sea lo mejorcito para gaming . En cuanto al monitor es un capricho personal , ese que he puesto tambien tiene 2 ms , soy jugador de shooters desde 8 años y siempre he jugado a 100 herzios. Me es imposible jugar con menos herzios. Un saludo y gracias
September 14, 2010 8:17:33 PM

ajajaj si pero ustedes ganaron el mundial :p  eso vale mas u.u, la segunda ves que perdemos por alemania.

lo mejor mejor seria

amd phenom ii x6 1090t

ati 5970/5870 marca xfx es buena...

asus crosshair iv formula

samsung spinpoint f3 1tb

g.skill 4gb (2x2gb vienen asi) ddr3 1600mhz cl7

placa de sonido solo si te parece muy importante el sonido... mas abajo te pongo buenos mouse teclados y audiculares... esa placa que elegiste es buena, tambien fijate las ht omega claro

fuente xfx 850w black edition

noctua nh-d14

ssd ocz vertex ii 120gb

gabinete el que te guste :p  personalmente el antec 1200 no me gusto... tenia como todos grumos en el metal como si fuera una lija creoq eu el que me voy a comprar yo es el nzxt phantom


bueno y accesorios:

mouse me gustan razer mamba o razer deathadder

teclado me gusta el lycosa ( el mirror no, el normal)

pad el goliathus large control edition

audiculares los sennheiser pc 350 son buenos

y parlantes si llegas a querer para mirar peliculas o escuchas musica la mejor marca es klischp pero los parlantes buenos son caros :p 

nose si me falta algo
September 14, 2010 8:40:52 PM

Juanichoo's recommendation is pretty good. I apologize, it's been years since I last spoke Spanish, so I'll respond in English. :) 

The Phenom II X6 1090T is not necessary for gaming, but it is a good processor if you can afford it. 6 CPU cores are not necessary for gaming today, only the first 2 are used by most games.

I agree that buying a 5870 or 5970 would be wise, as it will last longer.

For graphics cards, I agree XFX is a good brand, although Sapphire is also considered a top brand, and HIS and Gigabyte are quite good as well.

The Asus Crosshair IV Formula is a good motherboard (I have it myself), but other boards with similar features are less expensive.

If you cannot find G.Skill RAM, any 1600 MHz CL7 RAM would be fine, and you only need 4 GB, as Juanichoo says.

Many people like the HAF 922 or 932 cases rather than the Antec 1200. It is up to you, though.
September 14, 2010 8:50:38 PM

lol i will traduce... he ask me to tell him a potent amd build without seeing the price.. so that why i recomend that...and i will try to remobe one doubt.. how many cores do i need to run games well and at time have msn on and 10-15 windows on internet??
September 14, 2010 9:03:21 PM

Oh, I can read the Spanish, I just can't remember how to construct complete sentences in it. :) 

Most games only use up to 2 cores, and IM programs and web browsing are very very low CPU-usage. I currently do all of that with my Phenom II X4. The 1090T is excellent, it's just not necessary for anything other than heavy Photoshop or video encoding.
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September 14, 2010 9:03:36 PM

The recent mid-price SBM article showed how disappointing the slightly slower 6-core Phenom II is for games. The slightly faster 1090T would likely still be a poor choice for the money. If you want an AMD build, get a 955BE.
You will not need an 850W PSU even for 2xHD5770 in Crossfire. You will only need 650W for that, assuming it is a quality brand like Antec, Corsair, or Seasonic.
September 14, 2010 9:23:59 PM

If you could fill out the information requested in the How to Ask for New Build Advice, it would be easier to provide advice on the best build for you (either AMD or Intel).
September 14, 2010 9:33:43 PM

Onus said:
The recent mid-price SBM article showed how disappointing the slightly slower 6-core Phenom II is for games. The slightly faster 1090T would likely still be a poor choice for the money. If you want an AMD build, get a 955BE.
You will not need an 850W PSU even for 2xHD5770 in Crossfire. You will only need 650W for that, assuming it is a quality brand like Antec, Corsair, or Seasonic.



we recomended the 850w for 5870 crossfire
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September 14, 2010 11:01:28 PM

Yes, 850W for two HD5870s...I was looking at his original post, which mentioned one HD5770, maybe x2 in the future.
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