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Anonymous
September 17, 2010 6:34:38 PM

Hello,

My name is Nathan. I am only 16, and wanna build my first (!) computer. My home computer recently crashed, and my moms laptop sucks. Right now i dont even have anything to hook up my zune to, or sync new music, or anything.

I DO however, have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and some crappy computer speakers from the old one. So those aren't included in my budget.

I'm trying to get a loan of like.... 600 from my grandma. I have a steady way to make at least 40 a month, plus christmas and my birthday around there, I should have it payed off by around new years. II hope she'll go for it.

My friend, whos a computer nerdish type of person, suggested i build a computer. He built his. He said he could help me put it together once i got the parts, but my job is to research all the parts.

I dont even know where to start. I'm not an IDIOT with computers, but i'm not smart. Ill read here various things, and not understand half of it.

So my budget is 600, and Ill need all the parts, and windows 7.

What I want from it: Just a solid computer. I do watch tv/movies on it, and listen to a ton of music. Ill probably need atleast a 320hdd or 500gb. I don't necassarily plan on playing games, but it would be cool to be able to run some. Not stuff like Crysis or COD, but maybe like halo 2 or 3 and what not. I would prefer 4gb of ram if I can. Thats all I know, i want 4gb ram, and at least 320gb hard drive. I know nothing else about parts.

Where I can buy: doesn't matter. newegg works, or whatever yall suggest.

Any ideas? Thanks.

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Anonymous
September 17, 2010 6:56:48 PM

The bargain ones (from mmy limited knowlegde) seem to suck. And the budge ones are just a wee bit high by like a hundred bucks. I do see threads for "gaming pc under 600" and people recommend some stuff. Are tehse actually any decent?

But to review my needs just again: Videos. Internet. Ill probably install microsoft word. Zune marketplace (downloading TONS of music since i got my zune pass. ) and occasional games (don't require the highest graphic needs). I just need a smooth runnin gsystem, for a non hardcore gaming 16 year old. My nerd friend built his gaming rig for 600 without OS, and plays stuff like assassin's creed, and orange box (this is one, I REALLY wanna play. half life).

Thanks
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September 17, 2010 7:02:12 PM

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-gpu-overclock,2... Try this.... But I'd wait a month or so on buying, since the 6000 series is coming out, and the price of GPUs will drop, so you should be able to buy a nicer GPU for the same price..... You'll probably be able to afford a X4 phenom.... since you have a sightly higher budget.
September 17, 2010 7:06:47 PM

Your age doesn't matter, and DON'T tell people your name, and were you get your money, just give us your budget, and what you don't need....
September 17, 2010 7:07:24 PM

If you aren't Over Clocking, then don't bother with the Extra CPU cooler...
You'll probably need to buy another 2 gigs of ram, eventually....
Anonymous
September 17, 2010 7:19:09 PM

What is overclocking?
September 17, 2010 8:04:08 PM

overclocking is hot-rodding your computer. Making it exceed factory clock speeds and voltages to perform faster., at a cost of reducing the maximum lifespan of your parts. (usually, the parts, if well maintained can last 5-10 years (warranty is usually 1-3), but are obsolete and discarded in 2-3 years, making this worth doing)

$600 can get you a decent build, including windows and a monitor.

Athlon II X3 445 ~$78
AS Rock AMD 770 motherboard $60 (you won't need USB 3 and SATA 3, so why pay for it? If you NEED it, $15 more gets you the same board with them)

4 GB of DDR3-1333 RAM, Mushkin: $75

320 GB Spinpoint F4: $43

Rosewill Challenger Case: $45

550W Power Supply: $59

Windows 7: $99

GTX 450: $130

1650x1080 Monitor: $160

DVD burner: $17

this is $767, but with combos from newegg, you can match your 600 budget
Anonymous
September 17, 2010 8:47:11 PM

I don't need a monitor. Like i said, our last computer crashed, but the monitor works fine. Its a flat screen, maybe 19 inch. I know nothing on resolutions with it, but it works fine.

How do i overclock? Or i read something about "unlocking another core" in it. Any ideas what this means, and for a noobie like me, how its done?

But the rest of that looks good. I guess i just get all the pats, find some tutorials on putting it together, and then snap all the pieces in place. Is it that simple? or?
September 17, 2010 9:17:21 PM

Quote:
I don't need a monitor. Like i said, our last computer crashed, but the monitor works fine. Its a flat screen, maybe 19 inch. I know nothing on resolutions with it, but it works fine.

How do i overclock? Or i read something about "unlocking another core" in it. Any ideas what this means, and for a noobie like me, how its done?

But the rest of that looks good. I guess i just get all the pats, find some tutorials on putting it together, and then snap all the pieces in place. Is it that simple? or?

1. Why do you need to overclock your pc? it will just make it last for less amount of time and make it a bit faster in the meanwhile, but you said your self, you dont need it.

2. Overclocking is kinda complicated if u simply start by not even knowing anything about it..


September 17, 2010 9:24:23 PM

alright, without a monitor, we have this: $593 plus shipping:

Athlon II X3 Rana 445 and Gigabyte 785G Motherboard: $125.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Rosewill Challenger case and LiteOn DVD burner: $53.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Samsung Spinpoint F3 320 GB Hard drive: $42.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Palit GTX 460 1GB, lightly overclocked. $219.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Comes with 2 games.

Windows 7 OEM and OCZ 600W Power supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

$592.92.

$17.85 shipping

$610.77 total.

you can drop to a 768MB version of the 460 if you need to drop the cost w/ shipping under $600 (It runs $189.99, so $20 less)
Anonymous
September 17, 2010 10:23:47 PM

Can anyone else confirm if this looks good? And, are all parts "compatible"?

Lastly, does anyone know of a good guide on how to build it? And what about ram or anything? is this all I need?
September 17, 2010 10:59:09 PM

aw geeze, I forgot the RAM :(  I thought I had that. let me re do it.
September 17, 2010 11:48:53 PM

ok, updated:

Gigabyte AMD 785 Motherboard, Rana 445 X3 processor: $125.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Western Digital Caviar Black 500 GB Hard drive and OCZ Fatal1ty 550W Modular power supply: $99.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...


4GB Mushkin Enhanced Essentials RAM: $74.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill Challenger Case and Lite-On 22x DVD burner: $53.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Sapphire HD5770 and Windows 7: $224.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
$579.91

$10.79 shipping

$590.90 total.
Anonymous
September 18, 2010 1:22:34 AM

ScrewySqrl said:
ok, updated:

Gigabyte AMD 785 Motherboard, Rana 445 X3 processor: $125.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Western Digital Caviar Black 500 GB Hard drive and OCZ Fatal1ty 550W Modular power supply: $99.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...


4GB Mushkin Enhanced Essentials RAM: $74.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill Challenger Case and Lite-On 22x DVD burner: $53.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Sapphire HD5770 and Windows 7: $224.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
$579.91

$10.79 shipping

$590.90 total.


That looks pretty good. Anybody else's thoughts on this? I know NOTHING. What about that one $550 build the other guy suggested? Whcih has better graphics card, or what not?
September 18, 2010 2:58:50 AM

Like you I just completed my first custom PC build, I went overboard and out of your budget.
The build that ScrewySqrl has suggested is perfect for your budget and needs.
The Tri-Core AMD Processor will provide plenty of power for daily work, ATI Graphics are a nice bang for the buck, you will be able to play most of the new games coming out. That motherboard will be able to support AMD Phenom x6 Proccessors if you decide later you want it.

Have fun! :bounce: 
September 18, 2010 4:44:43 AM

heh, i built my first computer when I was 9... a long long long time ago.... it was HARD to build a computer back then... age don't matter.
September 20, 2010 3:24:41 AM

The two builds being almost the same other then the one from toms has 2 gigs less ram (it is also cheaper so buying more ram is no problem....).. His is slightly better CPU in that one... Shouldn't your "nerd friend" come and help you deicde between the two...?
Also you won't have to worry about putting things together if he helps you... If he doesn't, remember don't do anything if you don't know how to do it. Don't touch anything without being grounded.... Try this tutorial http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/building-pc,511.htm...

@Pizza.... lol duuuude! when was this? I think I saw you mention comodore 64? =o
September 20, 2010 3:32:34 AM

Hahahahahaha! Lemme just say.. my hard drive was only 512MB and that was like....... high end, i mean it was HIGH end. Its like the 2TB drives of today :D 
September 20, 2010 3:38:51 AM

Mr Pizza said:
Hahahahahaha! Lemme just say.. my hard drive was only 512MB and that was like....... high end, i mean it was HIGH end. Its like the 2TB drives of today :D 

=o.... how many people brought the computer to your door?
I think high-size HDDs are like 4 TB..... My friend has 8 hard drives -.- I told him to stop at 4.... He has used like .000000000001 of th space
September 20, 2010 3:46:42 AM

XD

September 20, 2010 10:52:00 PM

The only thing I can see with that is it is Athlon, (soo horrible) and thus the Mobo will need changing.
I do like the way they right the articles.
@Mosox =D I want one!
September 22, 2010 3:16:13 AM

Hey this is Nathan. My other account somehow got deleted. I didn't activate it in time, I think.

Anyway, which build of all builds/links posted here do you think is the best?

Also, I just htought. How do i connect this computer to internet?
September 22, 2010 3:59:15 AM

Also, how important is a sound card/ do i need one? If so, can i fit one in my range?
September 22, 2010 8:43:19 AM

ScrewySqrl's is the best.
No sound card, you don't really NEED one, but eventually you might want one....
If you do want one, I'd go with the Omega Striker 7.1, or Creative, if you go creative be aware that their Quality assurance (insert a lot of inappropriate things)..... If you can get a Creative that WORKs the sound Quality (with the right speakers/headset) is basically unrivaled... (A local theater switched from Dolby to Creative and it is like OMG...). Quality for a long term would stay with Onboard, or get omega. There is problems with Windows 7 and vista drivers on both cards.
September 22, 2010 11:51:02 AM

Sound cards are tied with your audio system. Once you get a 100+ USD headphones or 300+ speakers you will need a sound card to max them to their ful potential.
September 22, 2010 2:20:02 PM

Atotalnoob said:
ScrewySqrl's is the best.
No sound card, you don't really NEED one, but eventually you might want one....
If you do want one, I'd go with the Omega Striker 7.1, or Creative, if you go creative be aware that their Quality assurance (insert a lot of inappropriate things)..... If you can get a Creative that WORKs the sound Quality (with the right speakers/headset) is basically unrivaled... (A local theater switched from Dolby to Creative and it is like OMG...). Quality for a long term would stay with Onboard, or get omega. There is problems with Windows 7 and vista drivers on both cards.


Thank you good sir. I'ma try and buy it soon.
September 23, 2010 2:08:00 AM

=o I got quoted!!!!!!! this is the first time (since I put a really lame quote in the quote thingy toms has.... lol)
No problem, Somebody is right, I forgot to mention that.
September 23, 2010 2:43:31 AM

Wow.. doesn't know what overclocking is?
September 23, 2010 3:38:26 AM

Pizza be nice, his first build. It is possible, my friend somehow got an i7 and stuff and I was like gunna oc? and he is like wt* is that???? and I was like, how'd you buy this computer? and he is like oh it was on sale... and I was like -.-... =p
September 23, 2010 3:54:17 AM

How dare you talk to a Veteran like that!!!! Nah JK :D 

September 23, 2010 4:02:13 AM

=o *slaps* how dare you joke! (not joking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) lol jk =p
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