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September 18, 2010 4:47:40 PM

I am seeking help on purchasing a new Gaming PC. My budget will be $700. I want to be able to play the newer games such as Star Trek Online, GTA 4 and such on their highest graphical settings, with great FPS.


I tried out the custom configuration on Cyberpower earlier today, and I'm not sure if what I've chosen is worth the money, what do you guys think? Anything I can do better in?

* CPU: AMD Athlon™II X4 640 Quad-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology [-110]
* HDD: 500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)
* MEMORY: 4GB (2GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Module (Corsair or Major Brand)
* MOTHERBOARD: ASUS M4A77T/USB3 AMD 770 Chipset Hardware Core Unlocker DDR3 Socket AM3 ATX w/ 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB 3.0, SATA-II, RAID, 1 Gen2 PCIe, 2 PCIe X1, & 3 PCI
* SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
* VIDEO: ATI Radeon HD 5750 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card [+80] (Major Brand Powered by ATI)


I don't need a new HDD, as I already have a TB hard drive, but I guess you don't have the option of not choosing one. :??: 

Total is $633.00 (I'm guessing the shipping will be high, since I live in Massachusetts and their company is in California.)



I have also considered just upgrading my Motherboard, Graphics Card, Processor, and RAM. Here's what I've sprung together with the help of MadAdmiral, what do you think?

Processor: AMD Athlon II X3 440 Rana

Graphics Card: SAPPHIRE 100283-3L Radeon HD 5770

RAM: GeIL 4GB

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-790XTA-UD4 AM3

Total is $423.36 Including shipping

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September 18, 2010 5:02:59 PM

I would order the same components from Directron.com and pay them the $26 fee to go ahead and build it for you. That puts you ~$150 under budget after shipping. I'd recommend you learn to build it yourself. Its not hard.

With the extra money I would consider getting the intel i5 661 combo which is dual core but perfoms better in gaming (51 instead of 40 FPS in Far Cry 2). You would have a similar system to mine, which can play Crysis Warhead, Command and Conquer 4, Mass Effect 2, Starcraft 2, and Dragon Age Origins on the max settings at 1680x1050. If you prefer AMD they have better combos w/Phenom processors as well.

I would go for the 5770.

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September 18, 2010 6:30:05 PM

I forgot that you don't need a hard drive. I'm sure directron will assemble it for you without one, and that is another $50 you save.
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September 18, 2010 7:47:50 PM

Thanks for the reply, I know how to put together a computer, I just want to know your opinion on the hardware I have selected.
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September 18, 2010 8:22:48 PM

Ah, gotcha. I'm pretty sure that system will handle most games on ultra settings. If you're building it yourself I would come prices from Newegg and Directron. You'll probably be able to significantly upgrade your processor and stay in your budget.
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September 19, 2010 12:50:48 AM

Which set up do you think will be able to handle more? The one I customized on Cyberpower or the ones I found on Newegg? I can't come to a decision myself lol :D 
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September 19, 2010 1:01:42 AM

I like the newegg setup better, trhe X3 is better than the X2.

I'd pay the extra $2-3 to get the G.Skill or Mushkin RAM that's $74.95. Better quality than GEIL.
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September 19, 2010 1:13:06 AM

Mushkin? Haha funny word :)  You don't happen to have a link to the one you recommend do you?
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September 19, 2010 1:25:28 AM

Indeed. Do you recommend Mushkin or G.Skill?
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a b 4 Gaming
September 19, 2010 1:31:44 AM

both are good. in terms of performance, all four sets are practically identical. chose any of them
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September 19, 2010 9:40:09 PM

Alright cool. Would a 400W power supply be enough or should I get a higher wattage?
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a b 4 Gaming
September 20, 2010 10:44:52 AM

400 should be ok, you might want 450 or 500 just to give a little overhead
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September 25, 2010 5:07:15 AM

SAphire is good, but XFX has a double lifetime warranty and warranties overclocking. it might be worth the price to you if you're doing that.
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September 25, 2010 9:58:29 AM

I'm not to much of a fan for overclocking, so I'll get the Saphire. How about the processors?
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a b 4 Gaming
September 25, 2010 2:43:25 PM

the 445 is the same as the 440, just faster.
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September 25, 2010 9:48:31 PM

ScrewySqrl said:
the 445 is the same as the 440, just faster.



Hmm ok. But by how much faster is it? Like a significant increase in speed or just a little?
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a b 4 Gaming
September 26, 2010 2:40:41 AM

the 440 is 3.0 GHz, the 445 is 3.1 GHz, so 0.1 GHz faster (or 100 MHz faster, if you prefer)

there is also now the 450, at 3.2 GHz
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September 28, 2010 12:37:05 AM

Hehe I got a few more questions. :D  Will all of these products be compatible with each other? Also, I have a Antec Sonata II tower. Will all of this fit into it? Or do I have to buy a new one? If so, which do you recommend?
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a b 4 Gaming
September 28, 2010 2:26:34 AM

should all work together
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October 2, 2010 1:20:34 PM

Sorry for not replying earlier, I got caught up in somethings. I have one last question, should I get a quad core instead of a triple?

AMD Athlon II X4 640 Propus 3.0GHz

I read somewhere that quads are most likely a better option then getting a triple, even though games now don't take advantage of all 4 cores yet. What do you think?
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October 2, 2010 3:32:56 PM

quad will be better all-round as compared to exclusively gaming, though more games are taking advantage of multiple cores: GTA IV and FFXIV both prefer quad cores, for instance
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October 3, 2010 2:09:03 PM

ScrewySqrl said:
quad will be better all-round as compared to exclusively gaming, though more games are taking advantage of multiple cores: GTA IV and FFXIV both prefer quad cores, for instance



Alright, which leads me to this...

I have a 500W PSU, and the recommended PSU for a Radeon 5770 is 450W. I was strongly encouraged to buy a new, 620W PSU. (SeaSonic S12II 620 Bronze)

I also found this processor; a AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb . I'm trying to figure out which processor I should get, but I'm having a hard time deciding. I want to play the latest games at the highest settings, and have a high FPS.

Due to budget constraints, if I get the Phenom, I can't get the PSU. If I get the PSU, I'll get the Athlon.




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October 3, 2010 3:28:36 PM

the 500W will be fine unless its several years old or from an unreliable brand.

What is the PSU's brand and age?

also what is its 12v amperage?

if these are good, go for the phenom

otherwise, go for a new PSU (but you won't need the 620)
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October 3, 2010 3:40:40 PM

ScrewySqrl said:
the 500W will be fine unless its several years old or from an unreliable brand.

What is the PSU's brand and age?

also what is its 12v amperage?

if these are good, go for the phenom

otherwise, go for a new PSU (but you won't need the 620)



Its an ATX Ultra V Series

It has a 28A
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