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December 16, 2010 2:25:12 AM

I will list my specs first so you can maybe get a better understanding of what i am going to ask.

Foxconn A78AX-S AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Phenom 9850 Black Edition 2.5GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Desktop Processor HD985ZXAJ4BGH - OEM
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
WINTEC AMPX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop
Thermaltake Element V Black Edition Steel Full Tower Computer Case Colorshift Fans VL200K1W2Z
CORSAIR CWCH50-1 High Performance CPU Cooler--2 fans push pull setup
500gb WD Hdd
950 Watt Psu cool max
Case has great air flow
Gtx 465 1gb

I am looking to up grade to

Mobo- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The only reason that i like this mobo is because its still uses ddr2 and i am going to get 2 more sticks 4gb total of the same ram as i have listed up top.

CPU- 940 BE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



My question here is i play games like battle field bad company 2, far cry 2, metro 2033, and such. All that i want to know is is it worth going from the 9850 to the 940.. all that i know is from what i have read on here that the 940 is easily overclocked to 3.7 Ghz. where the 9850 is a nightmare to overclock. And will 8gb of ram instead of four make a big difference and will the 940 make a big difference in games? Also is this a good mobo as i said i cannot afford to go to ddr3 since i have 4gb allready
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December 16, 2010 3:24:37 AM

Yes it will make a large difference. But note that the CPU is OEM and therefore does not include a heatsink.

Also note that you can put an AM3 CPU in that motherboard if you want.
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December 16, 2010 3:26:39 AM

I listed that i have a h50 cooler. push pull setup. but for the price isnt the 940 the best option or not and what do you think of the mobo i am looking at
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December 16, 2010 11:23:08 AM

There is absolutely no performance difference between DDR2 and DDR3 with a AM3 processor. The guy above has no idea what he's talking about.

Good mobo, good cpu, will make a huge difference. Going to 8gb ram won't make much difference in gaming experience.

Also the guy above said integrated graphics will......well whatever, again, he has no idea what he's talking about. You simply disable the onboard graphics.
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December 16, 2010 12:56:35 PM

The 940 is a good cpu and very oc able.

Its not listed on your current boards support list but 125w AM2+, should work.

Just thinking that would be the cheapest upgrade for you.
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December 16, 2010 1:51:44 PM

I'm not seeing a big reason to 'upgrade' to an Asus AM2+ 770 sb710 chipset.

For the cost of the Asus770/CPU/2 GB DDR2 might as well bite the bullet and transition to DDR3.

OR, keep the Foxconn 770 and add the AthII 640 Propus quad core. Should not be an issue running 15x240MHz and that won't hold you back.

It's odd that the old C2/C3 125w quads are not listed but the 125w x6 Thubans are supported. Maybe it has something to do with the power gating on the Thuban cores ...
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December 16, 2010 3:08:22 PM

I was assuming he already checked his motherboards cpu compatability list before he decided to purchase a NEW motherboard for that cpu. Stupid me...
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December 16, 2010 3:41:29 PM

I think your all not even answering my question..... I want to know will useing a 940 BE, 8GB ddr2 pc6400, and M4A77D MOBO be faster in games then the foxconn with 4gb ddr2, 9850 BE?
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December 16, 2010 3:47:01 PM

Did you even read the replies?? It will be MUCH faster.

The ram really doesn't even factor in since 4gb is enough for gaming, so you don't need to upgrade/replace it.
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December 16, 2010 5:12:08 PM

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December 16, 2010 8:49:24 PM

cia24 said:
I think your all not even answering my question..... I want to know will useing a 940 BE, 8GB ddr2 pc6400, and M4A77D MOBO be faster in games then the foxconn with 4gb ddr2, 9850 BE?



enzo matrix said:
Yes it will make a large difference.


geekapproved said:
Good mobo, good cpu, will make a huge difference. Going to 8gb ram won't make much difference in gaming experience.


beanoslim said:
The 940 is a good cpu and very oc able.



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December 16, 2010 10:39:08 PM

If you are playing at 1280x1024 or above, with AA/AF, etc., the cpu is not even nearly as important as your video card, assuming you have 'enough' cpu, which, IMO....you do.

Once at 1600x1200 or above, the video card is ~90% of your performance....

Adding another .5 GHz to CPU clock speed will likely net you a 4% performance gain.....
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December 17, 2010 1:22:32 AM

mdd1963 said:
If you are playing at 1440x900 or above, with or without AA/AF, etc., the cpu is not even nearly as important as your video card, assuming you have 'enough' cpu, which, IMO....you don't. Most modern games will be CPU limited with your setup..

Once at 1920x1200 or above, the video card is ~90% of your performance....

Adding another .5 GHz to CPU clock speed along with additional cache and a more efficient architecture will likely net you a pretty big performance gain in a lot of modern games.....

Fixed that for you as best I could :) 

Joking aside, I might agree with most of your original statement if he had a GTX260/radeon 5770 and below. But he doesn't.
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December 17, 2010 12:50:50 PM

Yeah he's definitely cpu limited, even with a GTX 260 imo.
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December 30, 2010 8:14:09 PM

Best answer selected by cia24.
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