AMD loose again???!!!

[Alfred_i]

inetl new cpu core i7 875k is about 40$ epensive that p2 x6 1090t.but when overclocke it,it beat amd 1090t in about same money
so we want choose between this items
1) core i7-875
2) core i7-930
3) amd phenom iix6 1090t
4)amd phenom ii x6 1055t
what is the best cpu ?

 

[Guest]

#4 for me !

 

[possiblyreefer]

#4
overclocks nicely.
OP looking at very different price ranges.
if you want I7-930 price competition have a look at some opteron processors.

 

[Alfred_i]

but core i7-875k overclocks nicely and has best performance in that price 329$(on newegg).

 

[Guest]

1055t $199 newegg.. Will OC to 4ghz bang for buck..

6x4ghz for $199 #4 for me!

What do you use at the moment alfred, and have you ever had the chance to use a x6 core system!

 

[possiblyreefer]

little bit out of touch with american/english prices.
but it will hit maybe 3.3-3.5 at a push (thats a guesstimate)
If you are looking at speed and cores have a look into the opterons.

http://www.ksn-online.co.uk/components-cpus-amd-opteron-6128-skt-g34-retail-p-8448.html

as i said i have no clue about the currency conversion rate.
but 8 cores? for £230

 

[Alfred_i]

core,core,core!!!!!!what the hell is the core!!!we want performance for price!!!not core for price.opteron has 8core!!!so what ?!!!
morican do see the performance of the i7-875k?
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/283909-10-which
look at this thread.

 

[possiblyreefer]

Then get the 1055t if you want performance for price?

its 2.30 in the morning, would you really like a quick lesson on cores to clock speeds?

 

[Guest]

Hmmmm. x8 opteron hmm.. just not sure, depends what you are doing with it I guess, would have to check clock for clock performance across different applications to see if this server chip would be suitable for desktop work.

Also the socket may be a limiting factor due to costs involved, but imagine 2 x Ocyx8/x12 with 128gb ram and dual 5970 xfire on Ln2 Ouch!

 

[possiblyreefer]

@moricon
http://www.ksn-online.co.uk/components-cpus-amd-opteron-6174-skt-g34-retail-p-8456.html
+
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2010/04/08/asus-launches-dual-socket-amd-g34-motherboa/1

If youre falling inline with the really high end intels
24 cores and 256gb of ram. for about £1300 + skyhigh ram costs

 

[Alfred_i]

lol,you are just a fan boy!!so you said 875k is not performance-price?

 

[possiblyreefer]

compared to the x6. no it isnt

 

[Alfred_i]

your reason?

 

[Guest]

alfred, its not all about the CPU..

My 1055t is sitting in a Asus Crosshairs IV 890FX which is a High End Board.. Full Fat all sugar and no artificial sweetners..

X58 is Full Fat as well all sweet and goodness...

SKT1156 is mid range, intel chipset on a diet.

I would put a 750 on that chipset with a single GPU, probably nothing more, its Intel Budget!
I believe in spending as much on your Mobo as you do CPU, I try go with a 1-1 ratio, It has always served me well, I always have balanced systems and they are always faster than more expensive stock systems with a tweak or two!

Oh.. my 1055t does 4.5ghz on my Asus board, it would not do that on a cheap board! also in everyday use other than some benchmarks, you would not notice the speed difference between 875k and 1055t if both were at 4ghz except in handbrake, where the 1055t will finish much quicker! Games would all be smooth, web pages load, 3d scenes rendered, skype chatted, hell even a few photoshop touchups in for good measure!

But the 1055 is cheaper allowing me to have a nice lovely Asus ROG Mobo with its bells and whistles.

Well each to their own I guess, and all have different needs and choices to match, but out of your 4 choices.. I still say #4 is the best CPU looking at what it does for how much it costs!

What machine do you currently use alfred.

 

[hunter315]

For 330 the 875k isnt a good deal, its not going to OC much higher than an 860 or a 930, unlocked just makes it easier to OC but in general you will come pretty close to the same level whether its locked or unlocked.

 

[Lmeow]

^+1, that's why you can get a Phenom II X6 1055T past 3.8 GHz on a locked multiplier, and costs $100 less. The i7 875K is really an i7 870 which is a total ripoff compared to the 875K.

As for your list, 'best' depends on the situation. I'd go with the Phenom II X6 1055T on a normal everyday budget, the i7 930 for a CrossFireX/SLI setup, the i7 875K if I plan to overclock quite a bit and the Phenom II X6 1090T BE? Well... if I wanted to overclock something more easily by AMD this would be my choice.

 

[Alfred_i]

moricon now you are coming to discussion:
in excel or heay caculations you see core i7 875 pull out amd with a big diffrence in photo shop cs 5 it has a big diffrence.in hand brake yes you are right but in other application what?875 beat 1055.yes 1055t is best for perfomance price.but for 130$ extra 875k isn't a good choice?main board is p55 and it is not epensive like x 58.
and hunter thank you.but 875 k is like 975 in many benchmarks and overclok same is 330 is enought for it?

 

[Alfred_i]

you said that overclocking 1090t is easier than 875k?are you sure?

 

[Alfred_i]

i don't say unlocker is better or not.core i7 875k is better than 860?and has same result with 870 and is cheaper than 870 this is my point.

 

[possiblyreefer]

Without a good board like an x58 you wouldnt be able to pull off massive overclocks anyway.
With regards to overclocking is easier on what. Overclocking in general is very easy its just fiddling with multipliers and voltages in your BIOS.

if x16 multiplier works and is stable bump it up to x17
if x17 multiplier works and is stable bump it up to x18
and so on

 

[Alfred_i]

yes so on.....

 

[Alfred_i]

the mainboard is very powerful maximus iii formula and it has same price crosshair iv formula 229$.so you just pay 130$ more and buy a better pc in gaming,rendering,encoding,etc
and still say it is not good?

 

[runswindows95]

I also would go for #4 as well. Then again, for what I really do on a PC, an Athlon X2 is all I really need.

 

[Guest]

Nope sorry alfred, still think overall, for what you pay, 1055t on 890fx > 875k on p55.

Even though the 875 will OC and beat the 1055 in some benches and applications, the real world differences will not be noticeable, and once again, i have the lovely 890fx to play with instead of p55 for overall less than 875/p55.

It is fast, can OC well but Price/performance on whole platform nope #4

It is fast, it is easy to OC, but 875 still not winner bang for buck..

I have all PWM fan headers for my 4x 120mm CAse fans, 6xSata3 USB 3 full voltage pionts, no crappy legacy connectors XF-I sound onboard, x16/x16 x16x8x8 / x8x8x8x8 heck 42 pci lanes 42!

This value here by going with 1055t over cheaper p55 to warrant 330 875
Asus $229
1050t $199
Total $428

875 $330
leaving $98 for mobo to match price

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157170

here is an example in budget

Look at this MSI costing same amount as ASUS 890fx

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130261

Only x16 or x8x8

total will also be $559 for 875 and MSI comparable price board.

Still woudl prefer overall package of 1055t and 890fx.

Now if you compare x58 in this you will find proper MOBO there for not much more, but i7 cost more, $100 more for 930 which once again in real everyday performance is not that much different to 1055t.

 

[Guest]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131482

That asus board only does x8x8 or x16 and has a few issues, check the reviews and a little googling.

Costs the same as a full Fat 890fx