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August 13, 2010 1:16:01 AM

Hey whats up guys i have a problem i can not decide which of these are better I've read a lot including best card for your money i am prolley gonna be playing SC2 ff14 and the occasional fps. here is what i been thinking but suggestions would be helpful.
HIS H555F1G Radeon HD 5550 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HIS Silence H555HB512 Radeon HD 5550 512MB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GIGABYTE GV-R485OC-1GH Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100273L Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Open Box: ASUS CuCore Series EAH4850 CUCORE TOP/2DI/1GD3 Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MSI N240GT-MD1G/D5 GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
also if it helps i am thinking i3 530 that i will oc to 4ghz maybe higher 4gb dual channel ddr3 2000
donno if i have to have dx11 for ff14 i heard something about it using it or if it would help to have it im kinda on a budget but let me know if im goin overboard some were also not gonna do sli or crossfire atleast not now

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a c 169 U Graphics card
August 13, 2010 7:00:02 AM

Hello and welcome to the forums
Between those,go with a 4850,its the fastest option.
ASUS,Sapphire and Gigabyte are all good brands
August 13, 2010 8:29:59 AM

thank you and im glad i asked because that hierarchy chart was confusing me and from what i can tell it said the 5550 was better but from what i could tell spec wise 4850 was better and is dx11 necessary? and choosen between the core clock or effective memory which would be better its a small difference between the 4850 but in general which should be better
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a c 376 U Graphics card
August 13, 2010 8:37:20 AM

FF14 does not use DX11 but other games do and more will in the future.
The hierarchy chart is pretty simple. Higher = better and the HD4850 is 9 tiers higher.
To pick out the right card we need more information. What is your monitor's native resolution, how much can you spend and what power supply are you using?
August 13, 2010 8:55:43 AM

haha i get it now i was reading it backwards i thought it was goin down to the better cards wondered why the i3 was so high i was planning on actually using my 42" hd tv for a screen is that a bad idea its 720p so i guess it would be 1,366x768 and also i thought i read somewhere that ff14 was dx11 well atleast thats one less thing to worry about the power supply is
CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX 450W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
is my planned psu but is subject to change i prolley shoulda mentioned im building a pc from scratch its not my first but i have been out of the pc gaming realm for about 5 or 6 years so im kinda lagging behind on finding out whats out there

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a c 376 U Graphics card
August 13, 2010 9:37:22 AM
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That PSU would be fine but it is quite expensive for a 450w, even a good one, especially with that $10 in shipping. For example you can get a 650w of the same brand for slightly less(after the promo code);
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
But really that is overkill. Considering the cost of that PSU and the HD4850s you are looking at you should be able to swing this instead;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
The card is significantly better, much more power efficient and DX11 while the PSU is modular for a less cluttered case and more than powerful enough for the card.
Alternately you can get a basically free DVD burner with the PSU;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
and a good deal for a different HD5770 with 4 gigs of DDR3 1600;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
a c 169 U Graphics card
August 13, 2010 9:39:33 AM

sefier said:
thank you and im glad i asked because that hierarchy chart was confusing me and from what i can tell it said the 5550 was better but from what i could tell spec wise 4850 was better and is dx11 necessary? and choosen between the core clock or effective memory which would be better its a small difference between the 4850 but in general which should be better

Well DX11 lets you play DX11 games and use its features but HD 550 isn't a great card for gaming(compared to 4850) so it won't perform very well in DX11 titles,so go with 4850 because its faster.
Between those 4850's,all of them are good.The ASUS model is opened-box and i recommend going with a retail mode.Between those other 2,I personally prefer Sapphire over Gigabyte but both are good brands
a b U Graphics card
August 13, 2010 10:15:03 AM

jyjjy said:
That PSU would be fine but it is quite expensive for a 450w, even a good one, especially with that $10 in shipping. For example you can get a 650w of the same brand for slightly less(after the promo code);
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
But really that is overkill. Considering the cost of that PSU and the HD4850s you are looking at you should be able to swing this instead;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
The card is significantly better, much more power efficient and DX11 while the PSU is modular for a less cluttered case and more than powerful enough for the card.
Alternately you can get a basically free DVD burner with the PSU;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
and a good deal for a different HD5770 with 4 gigs of DDR3 1600;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

^+1 great suggestions and your're much better off with a 5770.
August 13, 2010 10:37:57 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.469181 im prolley getin this combo thx for this much appreciated but i found i grabbed the wrong combo for mb and cpu i grabbed and 13 540 and i wanted a i3 530 so im lookin for a mb to go with it kinda wanna go mini so i can use the thermaltake lanbox wich haven this modular psu willhelp alot with i appreciate all your help again
August 13, 2010 11:42:08 AM

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a c 376 U Graphics card
August 13, 2010 10:08:03 PM

Have you considered an AMD system instead? You can get a Athlon II x4 with 4 cores for less than the dual core i3.
August 14, 2010 12:09:13 AM

i thought about it and it just seemd like the couple of bucks more was better spent on the i3 i knew for sure i could easily oc i used to only build amd this is gonna be my first intel do you really think the athlon is a better buy im not to sure ive kinda dwindled down to what im prolley gonna get not 100 percent because i didnt get approved for my 12 months no intrest cause i think my identity got stolen lol
Thermaltake LANBOX Lite VF6000BWS Black SECC Japanese steel Gaming Cube 70.64
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive 59.99
ASRock H55M/USB3 LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard 94.99
Intel Core i3-530 109.99
OCZ Gold 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit 89.99 with a 15 mail in rebate was gonna get
OCZ Special Ops Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 84.99 with a 25 rebate but sold out
then that video card psu combo you showed me
a c 376 U Graphics card
August 14, 2010 12:31:03 AM

Well, the x4 is going to be better in tasks that are highly multi-threaded and can take advantage of the 4 cores while the i3 will be better in tasks that only use one or two cores. I guess it is a judgment call.
August 14, 2010 12:38:02 AM

but the 4 virtual cores with hyper threading oc to 4 or 4.2ish ghz just seems better to me i mean not sure these are also my first multi core i stopped at singles but just for gaming shouldnt the 2 be better than the 4 because thats all il really be doin on this pc for the most part besides the ocasional video streaming but the gaming aspect is my main concern since i have other pcs for other stuff
a c 376 U Graphics card
August 14, 2010 2:25:26 AM

Well ideally you would get an i5-750 for the best of both. Most games are still limited to 2 cores but a number can utilize more and that trend will only increase as time goes on. Ignoring the case the components you have listed are $510 after rebates.
You could go for something like this to get a quad core i5;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
That totals $520 after rebates. Also the motherboard can crossfire(it only lists SLI but it can crossfire) if you ever upgrade to a 1080p monitor and want to add another for performance similar to an HD5870.
August 14, 2010 1:56:32 PM

the first one that you posted didnt work im guessing it was a motherboard cpu combo this was the cheapest one i could find
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
which i can't use in the case i wanted but thats not a big deal but all in all what you suggest with the one i found is 25 bucks more than mine and i wont need to get a case so that will save me 75 the calculations im getting from the i5 compared to the i3 system price baffles me how theres such little difference in price thank you alot for these suggestions they are helping me alot i wish i coulda seen the combo you posted
a c 376 U Graphics card
August 15, 2010 6:11:51 AM

I would try to stick to the Spinpoint F3 if at all possible. It is the fastest drive you'll find at a reasonable price and hard drive speeds tend to be one of the major limiting factors in current computers for a lot of tasks.
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