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Plesse tell me if I am about to build a paperweight!

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September 24, 2010 11:12:29 AM

Please tell me if I am doing something wrong, how I could improve the system, or whatever you can think of! Here are some bullet points with some info that I think is pertinent:

  • I am trying to stay around $2000.
  • I am planning on using a single 3D card and I want a GTX 480.
  • I don't know how to overclock.
  • The primary use of the computer is gaming.
  • I have no idea what MOBO, RAM, power supply, or processor I picked... I mean, I think I understand what I got and that they will probably work together fine, but will they? Are some of those parts overkill or not enough? I don't know whether or not I need an i7 or 1000w of power...

    Here is the build with cost:



    Here are the parts that I am not sure of:

    Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
    3D Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
    ? Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
    ? RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
    ? MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
    ? Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    If you have any information that can help it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time!
    September 24, 2010 11:29:47 AM

    ok.

    your power supply is overkill on wattage and not from a reliable company. For your build, a 650W will handle 1 card, 750 would let you go to SLI in the future. Go with major brands like XFX, Corsair, Sea Sonic, Antec, or Silverstone

    the keyboard and mouse are SERIOUSLY overkill. 'gamer' mice and keyboards are't that much better than a basic model. you just want a mouse and keyboard that feels comfortable. You can gt a decent one of each for $10-15ish.

    the Antec 1200 is overkill as well. Look into a Haf 922 or Antec 300 Illusion.

    for gaming, you don't NEED an i7. you can save a ton by going with an AMD quad/hex or an i750

    drop to just 1 1tb hard drive. the caviar black, samsung spinpint f3 or seagate 7200.12 models are all fine

    Use the money saved rom all the options we've mentioned here to add an SSD at 64 to 120 GB as a boot/application drive.
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    September 24, 2010 11:36:03 AM

    Can you give me a link to a good i750 that will work with that motherboard that I choose, or perhaps a new combo that you think is better?

    You are okay with the RAM?

    Can you provide a link to a power supply that you think is reliable/a good choice?

    I'm scared to pick incorrectly!
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    September 24, 2010 11:39:50 AM

    For a single card config, IMO the i7 is not required...Also I would suggest this GTX 470 over the GTX 480...
    GIGABYTE Super Overclock Series GV-N470SO-13I GeForce GTX 470
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
    Review - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gv-n470SO-13I-super...

    Here is a build which would be very good for gaming -
    i5 760 + GTX 470
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

    ASUS P7P55D-E Pro + DVD
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

    HAF 922 + OS
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

    Corsair 750TX + Corsair 4GB DDR3
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

    SSD for boot -
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    Samsung F3 1TB for data
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    Monitor, mouse, KB - Same

    Total - ~$1660 - You can add 1 more GTX 470 later on in SLI of you want to...
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    September 24, 2010 11:48:24 AM

    gkay09 said:
    For a single card config, IMO the i7 is not required...Also I would suggest this GTX 470 over the GTX 480...
    GIGABYTE Super Overclock Series GV-N470SO-13I GeForce GTX 470
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
    Review - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gv-n470SO-13I-super...

    Here is a build which would be very good for gaming -
    i5 760 + GTX 470
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

    ASUS P7P55D-E Pro + DVD
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

    HAF 922 + OS
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

    Corsair 750TX + Corsair 4GB DDR3
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

    SSD for boot -
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    Samsung F3 1TB for data
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    Monitor, mouse, KB - Same

    Total - ~$1660 - You can add 1 more GTX 470 later on in SLI of you want to...


    Only 4GB of RAM? I thought you needed like 6+? Why the 470 over a 480, is it price or performance or something that makes you side with it?
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    September 24, 2010 11:54:25 AM

    For RAM I would go with:
    G Skill Ripjaw RAM 1600mhz, CL 7 & Coraise 850W PSU - $165
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

    i5 760 and Asus P7P55D E Pro motherboard - $359
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

    or if, you are not comfortable OCing yourself, you may want to pay more and get the MSI motherboard which has OC genie which is very good. With the touch of a button it stably puts an i5 750 to 3.4ghz, so I imagine the i5 760 would be Oc'd to about 3.6ghz. Not an extreme OC, but excellent nevertheless, especially if not willing to try and do it yourself. It is $170.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    For GPU the GTX 480 gives you plenty of power. I personalyl don't like its design which is why for the first time ever I actually prefer a two card set up using two GTX460 1gb cards (costs $200 each atm for Gigabyte cards). These will match the performance of the GTX480 for less, the downside is of course thereis no easy upgrade path of simply adding another card unlike the single GTX 480 which you can double up in future. But I personally would not want 2 of those hot bastards in my machine. But this is all matter of opinion.

    For a case I would likely go with the HAF 922 for $90
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    If you wanted to stick with your i7 and motherboard then you would want to go with triple channel RAM and not dual (which you picked) so I would go with something like the G Skill 6gb RAM for $150
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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    September 24, 2010 12:09:20 PM

    4GB of RAM would suffice for gaming, which was also verified in many articles...
    6GB for i7 9xx because they have Tri-Channel controllers, so to take advantage of it, you would have to use 3 RAM sticks and the lowest amount of RAM would be 3GB, which is kind of less, so the next best option is 6GB...

    As for the graphics card, more than the cost, the GTX 480's performance increase doesnt warrant the power that it consumes and the heat that it gives out...
    But if you still want a GTX 480, then get the ones which have aftermarket coolers like these -
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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    September 24, 2010 12:23:23 PM

    gkay09 said:
    4GB of RAM would suffice for gaming, which was also verified in many articles...
    6GB for i7 9xx because they have Tri-Channel controllers, so to take advantage of it, you would have to use 3 RAM sticks and the lowest amount of RAM would be 3GB, which is kind of less, so the next best option is 6GB...

    As for the graphics card, more than the cost, the GTX 480's performance increase doesnt warrant the power that it consumes and the heat that it gives out...
    But if you still want a GTX 480, then get the ones which have aftermarket coolers like these -
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


    So, this checks out with you? I just want to be completely sure because I'm about to pull the trigger and buy it if you don't see any problems. Also, thank you veeeeery much for the help so far! :) 

    With that power supply will I have the option to buy a second card? It isn't too little wattage?
    So, what role does RAM play in gaming if any?
    EDIT: Also, should I buy a new cooler for the processor or is the stock one okay?

    Here is the new build:

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    September 24, 2010 12:36:17 PM

    ^ Yes it looks good and also the mobo supports SLI and the PSU can handle 2x GTX 470s in SLI, so that gives you the option to add 1 more later on if you want to...

    And before you go with the SSD, are you aware of its performance and details ? It still commands some price premium but would offer significant improvements in boot time and apps load time...If you feel its worth it, then only go for it...

    Also I would highly suggest you go through the reviews of the parts in the list to give you an idea about the build...
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    September 24, 2010 12:51:36 PM

    gkay09 said:
    ^ Yes it looks good and also the mobo supports SLI and the PSU can handle 2x GTX 470s in SLI, so that gives you the option to add 1 more later on if you want to...

    And before you go with the SSD, are you aware of its performance and details ? It still commands some price premium but would offer significant improvements in boot time and apps load time...If you feel its worth it, then only go for it...

    Also I would highly suggest you go through the reviews of the parts in the list to give you an idea about the build...


    Yeah I used a SSD before and laughed out loud when I saw how fast it loaded, but then it started to wear out quickly. I suppose I will give it another chance, maybe I had a bad one?

    I will look at the parts more in depth before I buy it all, but I want to thank you very much once again for the help!
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